Believe in Me

by **RossValoryRocks** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:26 am

Ok...now that JSS is singing for Journey should they add the JSS sound Believe in Me to the set?
If you never heard it before let me tell you it is PURE Journey in sound. Neal wrote it, Deen plays drums on it, and Neal is playing guitar.
I believe that JSS has a link on his site to a clip from the video.
I think it would be cool...it would fit with winning over Journey fans...at live shows...Believe in Me, JSS sings...should be cool!

by **Red13JoePa** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:28 am

Nope.
Journey material, not SS, not JSS.

Play Believe off Generations and I'll gladly roll w/ that.

by **Todd H** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:30 am

Absolutely. Youtube has the video for the song and it rocks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwZJ5HgcLss&search=jeff%20scott%20soto

by **RossValoryRocks** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:32 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Nope.
Journey material, not SS, not JSS.

Play Believe off Generations and I'll gladly roll w/ that.

Well if Neal wrote it, and plays on the song with Deen, and now JSS is singing for Journey is it REALLY JSS material? How is something not possible Journey material if Neal wrote it and plays on it?

by **WalrusOct9** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:34 am

With an 80 minute set, probably not. But if JSS continues with Journey and they do normal length shows? Hell yes...Jeff is a great talent in his own right, and I see no reason why he shouldn't get to do one of his own songs in the set, especially if half the guys onstage helped write it in the first place.

by **Liz22562** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:39 am

Wondering what Jon Cain & Ross Valory would think about a more JSS/SoulSirkus sounding band?

by **Barb** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:40 am

Hmmmm.... maybe that is why Jon is scowling so much these days.

Liz22562 wrote:Wondering what Jon Cain & Ross Valory would think about a more JSS/SoulSirkus sounding band?

by **fred_journeyman** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:40 am

Yeah, I agree! Seems that since they've done some of Schon's material life in Journey when he was with Hammer (or whoever), they absolutely SHOULD use SS material, since Neal obviously had a big hand in writing it. In fact, Deen came up with the original drum sound and licks, as well as backup vocals.

I say "Go for it!" I had purchased tickets to see SS at their first gig, but as we know it was cancelled.

The Journey material should always be played, but why not include other material that the guys have worked on? (That's rhetorical.) I'd definitely be up for it.

by **Todd H** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:42 am

Ross looks like he's having fun. But I agree about Jon. I've never seen him look so sour on stage. Has anyone figured this out?

by **RossValoryRocks** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:46 am

Barb wrote:Hmmmm.... maybe that is why Jon is scowling so much these days.

Liz22562 wrote:Wondering what Jon Cain & Ross Valory would think about a more JSS/SoulSirkus sounding band?

Jon and Steve are tight, good friends, I would think it is because of Steve being sick and how everything has gone down. Jon's a resilent guy he will bounce back. A friend of mine was at the preshow M&G in Ft. Lauderdale and Jon was fine.

by **RossValoryRocks** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:46 am

fred_journeyman wrote:Yeah, I agree! Seems that since they've done some of Schon's material life in Journey when he was with Hammer (or whoever), they absolutely SHOULD use SS material, since Neal obviously had a big hand in writing it. In fact, Deen came up with the original drum sound and licks, as well as backup vocals.

I say "Go for it!" I had purchased tickets to see SS at their first gig, but as we know it was cancelled.

The Journey material should always be played, but why not include other material that the guys have worked on? (That's rhetorical.) I'd definitely be up for it.

Well Believe in Me is actually off of a JSS EP, not SS.

by **siobhan222** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:46 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:Ok...now that JSS is singing for Journey should they add the JSS sound Believe in Me to the set?
If you never heard it before let me tell you it is PURE Journey in sound. Neal wrote it, Deen plays drums on it, and Neal is playing guitar.
I believe that JSS has a link on his site to a clip from the video.
I think it would be cool...it would fit with winning over Journey fans...at live shows...Believe in Me, JSS sings...should be cool!

Before I answer, I have a question. Did Journey ever play Steve Perry's solo stuff live? I mean Oh Sherrie and Foolish Heart sounded very very Journey-like.

by **RossValoryRocks** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:47 am

siobhan222 wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:Ok...now that JSS is singing for Journey should they add the JSS sound Believe in Me to the set?
If you never heard it before let me tell you it is PURE Journey in sound. Neal wrote it, Deen plays drums on it, and Neal is playing guitar.
I believe that JSS has a link on his site to a clip from the video.
I think it would be cool...it would fit with winning over Journey fans...at live shows...Believe in Me, JSS sings...should be cool!

Before I answer, I have a question. Did Journey ever play Steve Perry's solo stuff live? I mean Oh Sherrie and Foolish Heart sounded very very Journey-like.

Both acutally...on the ROR tour.

by **RossValoryRocks** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:48 am

Todd H wrote:Ross looks like he's having fun. But I agree about Jon. I've never seen him look so sour on stage. Has anyone figured this out?

Ross is one of those kind of people, he is ALWAYS having fun!

by **siobhan222** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:48 am

RossValoryRocks wrote: Jon and Steve are tight, good friends, I would think it is because of Steve being sick and how everything has gone down. Jon's a resilent guy he will bounce back. A friend of mine was at the preshow M&G in Ft. Lauderdale and Jon was fine.

Wasn't it Jon who convinced Neal that Steve would be the right guy back in 1998? I think that was the story -- if I remember correctly. I believe they are very good friends indeed. And Jon is the only one who has answered when anyone has asked questions about how Steve is doing since this whole thing happened.

by **Barb** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:49 am

Sure... they used to play Oh Sherrie and Strung Out in the ROR tour.

siobhan222 wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:Ok...now that JSS is singing for Journey should they add the JSS sound Believe in Me to the set?
If you never heard it before let me tell you it is PURE Journey in sound. Neal wrote it, Deen plays drums on it, and Neal is playing guitar.
I believe that JSS has a link on his site to a clip from the video.
I think it would be cool...it would fit with winning over Journey fans...at live shows...Believe in Me, JSS sings...should be cool!

Before I answer, I have a question. Did Journey ever play Steve Perry's solo stuff live? I mean Oh Sherrie and Foolish Heart sounded very very Journey-like.

by **whocares** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:50 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Nope.
Journey material, not SS, not JSS.

Play Believe off Generations and I'll gladly roll w/ that.

Well if Neal wrote it, and plays on the song with Deen, and now JSS is singing for Journey is it REALLY JSS material? How is something not possible Journey material if Neal wrote it and plays on it?

Eric Martin - the song from the Teachers soundtrack

by **siobhan222** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:51 am

Barb wrote:Sure... they used to play Oh Sherrie and Strung Out in the ROR tour.

Thanks Barb .. that's what I thought ... I just wanted to check.

Then, I guess I'd have to say "why not" to them doing "Believe In Me". They should probably wait until they do a little bit longer show though. This one is a bit short and they still need to do the Journey hits.

(And of course, that's assuming that Augeri isn't coming back.)

by **Red13JoePa** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:53 am

siobhan222 wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote: Jon and Steve are tight, good friends, I would think it is because of Steve being sick and how everything has gone down. Jon's a resilent guy he will bounce back. A friend of mine was at the preshow M&G in Ft. Lauderdale and Jon was fine.

Wasn't it Jon who convinced Neal that Steve would be the right guy back in 1998? I think that was the story -- if I remember correctly. I believe they are very good friends indeed. And Jon is the only one who has answered when anyone has asked questions about how Steve is doing since this whole thing happened.

Where the hell did Jon address Augeri's current status??

by **Barb** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:54 am

ya... do you have any more info. on that Stuart?

Red13JoePa wrote:Where the hell did Jon address Augeri's current status??

by **Jeremey** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:54 am

Journey material all the way. Enough of a catalogue to chose from, I would think. If Jeff becomes the permanent lead singer of Journey, then I could see them performing some JSS solo material in concert, and maybe a SS tune, but only if it was one of those 3 hour concert deals. I think 90% of the people at a Journey concert want to hear the hits and the "almost" hits....It would have made sense for Journey to play "Oh Sherrie" or the like since they were top 10 hits and most everyone would have recognized them. Maybe they could play "Turn Around Tokyo" on the next tour! That song rocked.

by **RossValoryRocks** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:59 am

Barb wrote:ya... do you have any more info. on that Stuart?

Red13JoePa wrote:Where the hell did Jon address Augeri's current status??

I wasn't the one who said that...Siobhan did. I don't have any info on Steve at the moment from any of my sources in the Journey world. I wish I did though just to know, because in my opinion he is great person...and I don't care what anyone else says on the matter.

by **Barb** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:01 am

sorry about that. I need to read more carefully!

So Siobhan... what's the scoop? :lol:

RossValoryRocks wrote:
Barb wrote:ya... do you have any more info. on that Stuart?

Red13JoePa wrote:Where the hell did Jon address Augeri's current status??

I wasn't the one who said that...Siobhan did. I don't have any info on Steve at the moment from any of my sources in the Journey world. I wish I did though just to know, because in my opinion he is great person...and I don't care what anyone else says on the matter.

by **siobhan222** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:43 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Where the hell did Jon address Augeri's current status??

I think it was a BT comment from a couple of days ago. It was also posted on here. He said Steve was seeing a new specialist this week.

by **siobhan222** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:45 am

siobhan222 wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Where the hell did Jon address Augeri's current status??

I think it was a BT comment from a couple of days ago. It was also posted on here. He said Steve was seeing a new specialist this week.

It was the same comment where Neal said JSS was "the man" if that helps. I can't quite it right now. But it was from a fan talking to them, I believe. Maybe after the Tampa show? Not sure.

by **whocares** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:58 am

don't believe everything you read...

by **Big J** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:50 am

fred_journeyman wrote:Yeah, I agree! Seems that since they've done some of Schon's material life in Journey when he was with Hammer (or whoever), they absolutely SHOULD use SS material, since Neal obviously had a big hand in writing it. In fact, Deen came up with the original drum sound and licks, as well as backup vocals.

I say "Go for it!" I had purchased tickets to see SS at their first gig, but as we know it was cancelled.

The Journey material should always be played, but why not include other material that the guys have worked on? (That's rhetorical.) I'd definitely be up for it.

Oh great. Can of worms.

Let's do Lonely Shade of Blue and Hot Cherie while we're at it.

by **NealIsGod** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:52 am

Big J wrote:
fred_journeyman wrote:Yeah, I agree! Seems that since they've done some of Schon's material life in Journey when he was with Hammer (or whoever), they absolutely SHOULD use SS material, since Neal obviously had a big hand in writing it. In fact, Deen came up with the original drum sound and licks, as well as backup vocals.

I say "Go for it!" I had purchased tickets to see SS at their first gig, but as we know it was cancelled.

The Journey material should always be played, but why not include other material that the guys have worked on? (That's rhetorical.) I'd definitely be up for it.

Oh great. Can of worms.

Let's do Lonely Shade of Blue and Hot Cherie while we're at it.

I better get some HSAS in there, then.

by **Big J** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:52 am

Jeremey wrote: Maybe they could play "Turn Around Tokyo" on the next tour! That song rocked.

Oh Lord no.

by **Manarocks** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:58 am

Liz22562 wrote:Wondering what Jon Cain & Ross Valory would think about a more JSS/SoulSirkus sounding band?

Please correct me ,but didn't Jon Cain co-produce the Soul Sirkus CD and wasn't it recorded at his home studio?

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