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This talk about HUGO and Chalfant

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:47 am
by Eric
I just don't get it, well I get Chalfant a little but...

They cannot go get a sound-a-like...it would be cheesey. Even Augeri wasn't exactly a sound-a-like.

I would accept Mickey Thomas, as he could cover the old material, and brings a presence into the band as well. He also sang some Arrival cuts quite well on Over the Edge.

I think if people don't support JSS then they maybe should either reunite with Perry somehow someway...or hang it up.

I guess ideally would be to find a young singer who could cover old material and sing differently when need be. Kinda like an Augeri or Calfant from the early 90's...with A LOT of voice left. But whoever it is needs to have writing chemistry with Schon and Cain. New material is the only thing that keeps a band relevant.

Re: This talk about HUGO and Chalfant

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:57 am
by jrnyman28
Eric wrote:I would accept Mickey Thomas, as he could cover the old material, and brings a presence into the band as well. He also sang some Arrival cuts quite well on Over the Edge.


Good point. Also Eric Martin might work.

Eric wrote:I think if people don't support JSS then they maybe should either reunite with Perry somehow someway...or hang it up.


Still hoping for a recoverd Steve......

Eric wrote:I guess ideally would be to find a young singer who could cover old material and sing differently when need be. Kinda like an Augeri or Calfant from the early 90's...with A LOT of voice left. But whoever it is needs to have writing chemistry with Schon and Cain.


What happened to that one guy from Vegas, Deano?

Eric wrote: New material is the only thing that keeps a band relevant.


Hasn't worked yet. New material in concert helps, but even new material cannot make a band relevant...unless they were to work hard at getting it heard on radio, TV, movies, etc...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:58 am
by whocares
Mickey Thomas????? No frickin' way!

We don't need another look/sound alike. And already writing is pretty much irrelavant, as they'd have to play it live. They rarely play anything other than the D.D., so what would make people think that they'd come out full force and start playing the new stuff, over what brought the casual fans out?

Who's not supporting JSS? Besides the obviious people, I mean.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:58 am
by finalfight
I don't actually think Hugo sounds exactly like Steve Perry. Hugo's voice is not as deep/raspy although they share a similar tone. Whilst Hugo looks like Steve Perry, Jeremy sounds almost exactly like him! :shock:

Never heard Kevin Chalfant though I hope to soon.

A Hugo fronted Journey would be awesome to see especially if he was allowed to write for the band. :D

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:59 am
by NealIsGod
Short list:

Jeremey
Jimi Jamison
Tony Mills

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:01 am
by jrnyman28
finalfight wrote:Never heard Kevin Chalfant though I hope to soon.



Check out the Storm CDs with Gregg Rolie, Ross Valory and Smitty!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:04 am
by Saint John
jrnyman28 wrote:
finalfight wrote:Never heard Kevin Chalfant though I hope to soon.



Check out the Storm CDs with Gregg Rolie, Ross Valory and Smitty!



Kevin is a great singer, but it's too late for Journey. They had their chance and discarded him for Perry. I would love to hear what they did with him (musically) around 95. Probably great music. Herbie Herbert even said what they had going was gonna make people forget about Steve Perry. While we NEVER forget Perry I bet the music was dynamite.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:05 am
by finalfight
Wow, Mickey Thomas is really good! I still rate Timothy Lewis (Departure) over anyone other than Steve Perry, Steve Augeri or Hugo to front Journey for me at this point.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:06 am
by finalfight
jrnyman28 wrote:
finalfight wrote:Never heard Kevin Chalfant though I hope to soon.



Check out the Storm CDs with Gregg Rolie, Ross Valory and Smitty!


Wha! Thats practically Journey MkII...

Thanks for the tip!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:07 am
by jrnyman28
Saint John wrote:
Kevin is a great singer, but it's too late for Journey. They had their chance and discarded him for Perry. I would love to hear what they did with him (musically) around 95. Probably great music. Herbie Herbert even said what they had going was gonna make people forget about Steve Perry. While we NEVER forget Perry I bet the music was dynamite.


Agree 100%!!

Re: This talk about HUGO and Chalfant

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:18 am
by A Fire Inside
jrnyman28 wrote:Also Eric Martin might work.

I thought Martin was a great suggestion when he first came up. IF Augeri HAS to leave, that is.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:57 am
by Eric
Other than "I've got a lot to learn" on the Storm's first CD, I've never heard anything I liked from Chalfant. In fact, I couldn't even get through the Shooting Star clips that were recently on here.

Hugo is pretty weak in my opinion.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:04 am
by brywool
hugo would be good JUST TO FINISH THE TOUR.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:18 am
by Abitaman
Kevin is an awesome singer with a fantastic range. Hav some boots with him doing some Journey, makes you say Steve who?-ERIC

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:20 am
by brywool
Holy Cow, whatever happened to Mickey Thomas??? That guy was amazingly good.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:48 am
by jrnyman28
brywool wrote:Holy Cow, whatever happened to Mickey Thomas??? That guy was amazingly good.


He is still touring as Starship. And he released a solo CD last year featuring several Journey leftovers.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:55 am
by The_Noble_Cause
Eric wrote:Other than "I've got a lot to learn" on the Storm's first CD, I've never heard anything I liked from Chalfant. In fact, I couldn't even get through the Shooting Star clips that were recently on here.


You don't care for the songs you've heard, or you simply do not care for his voice?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:58 am
by Aaron
Dude,

Hugo and Chalfant both can cover the old material well. I understand you your issue with a sound-a-like but I don't agree to some extent. I don't think Hugo or Chalfant are exactly sound-a-like singers but they do have similar range and tone. I don't see either Hugo or Chalfant any different than Augeri as vocalists. All can cover the old material well but have their own groove too. Hugo will continue to take a bad wrap because he looks like Perry. From my view, his vocals and writing talent are the best option for covering the old material as well as going forward. I give a fuck what the dude looks like so, cut his hair, color it blond, give him a nose job, or whatever; I want to hear Journey as it is intended to sound and Hugo can do it.

Hugo's writing talent is better than his vocal talent IMHO. Valentine completely kicks ass as do his solo efforts. Hugo writes better Journey stuff than Journey has since ROR. Journey could do themselves a favor by releasing Hugo's material under their brand and get back on the charts. I'm sure I'll take a beating for this but Hugo kicks complete ass and is the best option for Journey to go forward while also doing justice to their heritage.

Chalfant is also a good option for similar reasons. I think Hugo's writing skills are better than Kevin's which is why Hugo gets the nod in my opinion. Chalfant has an established track record as The Storm releases show. He kicks ass as well.

I'll hold my judgment on JSS until after I see the Indy show live. JSS is a great guy and a great talent, period. However, if the boots capture the groove properly, he is not the guy for Journey. From what I've heard on the boots, I could cover the material better. No bag intended towards JSS, I just don't think his voice fits Journey based on the boots but lets wait and see what the Indy show conveys.

Finalflight, you and I are on the same page. You must be cool man. :wink:

Abitaman, I'd REALLY love to hear your boots of Chalfant doing Journey. I'd be forever grateful if you'd would share you good fortune.

L8r,

Aaron

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:03 am
by AR
Abitaman, I'd REALLY love to hear your boots of Chalfant doing Journey. I'd be forever grateful if you'd would share you good fortune.


Yes I'd like to hear that as well.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:07 am
by Eric
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Eric wrote:Other than "I've got a lot to learn" on the Storm's first CD, I've never heard anything I liked from Chalfant. In fact, I couldn't even get through the Shooting Star clips that were recently on here.


You don't care for the songs you've heard, or you simply do not care for his voice?



The songs. And his voice is no better than Augeri's and they've already gone that route how I see it...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:07 am
by Rockindeano
NealIsGod wrote:Short list:

Jeremey
Jimi Jamison
Tony Mills


I like all 3 choices.

I would reverse order, only because Mills is more polished than Jimi, and Jeremy might sound too much like Perry.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:08 am
by Eric
Abitaman wrote:Kevin is an awesome singer with a fantastic range. Hav some boots with him doing some Journey, makes you say Steve who?-ERIC


I'd love to hear those boots!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:09 am
by AR
Screw it, I'll sing for Journey. :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:08 pm
by aorgeneral
Rockn'deano wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Short list:

Jeremey
Jimi Jamison
Tony Mills


I like all 3 choices.

I would reverse order, only because Mills is more polished than Jimi, and Jeremy might sound too much like Perry.


I actually agree with you deano on this one! Mills is the choice!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:11 pm
by whocares
arrivalrules wrote:Screw it, I'll sing for Journey. :lol:


you look too much like Perry. :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:13 pm
by Argus
Hugo is weak and Kevin is busy .. :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:18 pm
by Abitaman
arrivalrules wrote:
Abitaman, I'd REALLY love to hear your boots of Chalfant doing Journey. I'd be forever grateful if you'd would share you good fortune.


Yes I'd like to hear that as well.


When I get my computer back, on the back up now, I'll see if I get it posted. Not the best quality, but they are awesome. Dropped computer off (onl 3 months old) Friday, should have back one to 3 weeks :( . Don't make them like they use too.-ERIC

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:43 pm
by EightyRock
Anybody actually heard Mickey Thomas live in the last couple years? I heard him a few years ago and he was AWFUL. He used to be great with Starship, but he just couldn't carry a tune when I heard him.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:10 pm
by jabber
Totally off the wall here, but whatever happened to Tony Lewis of The Outfield? He had a higher voice but I used to think he sounded pretty good. Please don't shoot me.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:20 pm
by RedWingFan
Kevin is an awesome singer with a fantastic range. Hav some boots with him doing some Journey, makes you say Steve who?-ERIC


I saw the Storm open for Brian Adams in '91 or '92 I think. Kevin and Gregg singing "Just the Same Way" Is the closest I've ever gotten to seeing the Journey I'd love to see. I also have Chalfant's "Running With The Wind" solo cd. It's a great cd, he's got great writing ability I think could really re-launch Journey.