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The Nashville Show-the Good and the Bad

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:15 am
by Abitaman
Saw Journey and Def Leppard last night (Sunday), and I must say I came away quite surprised with what I have seen and heard. I have been totally against the JSS thing, with the fact being how it went about, and not thinking JSS was suited for Journey. But the set list for the show was
Star Spangled Banner
Any Way You Want It
Ask the Lonely
Stone in Love
Wheel in the Sky
Who's Crying Now with DC
Chain Reaction
Lights
Open Arm with DC
Lovin, Touchin, Squeezin
Escape
Dead or Alive
Be Good to Yourself
Faithfully with DC
Don't Stop Believing'
ENCORE-
Separate Ways

I was sitting in the first section and got a good view from Cain's side. THe place was sold out, I was told by a person working there that I was around 17,000 attending, do not know if that was true, but the place was paced, first I have ever been the the Starwood in Nashville (ok it a little outside of Nashville)
My wife and I got there right when the Who's Won't get fooled again, so we hurried up to our seats (had been told that was the song they came on stage after), sure enough there was Schon playing the SSB, I got ever one up. Which they stayed for most of the show. I was going to enjoy this show, even if I wasn't thrilled with how JSS might sound. It was a hot night, and the band was even hotter, Neal was soaked by the end of SSB. Deen sounded a little hoarse, but was still awesome, Cain was in a very good mood, smiling laughing and waving at fans. Ross, well Ross and JSS seemed to hang out and mess around a lot, that was good to see.
The only songs I saw people sitting down on was Edge of the blade, and Dead or Alive. The ripped thru them, especially DOA, but alot of people might have thought it was new or something? But the place went wild on the last three, Faithfully, Don't Stop... and the encore Separate Ways. Even as the band walked off stage people were screaming for more, and I was one of them. That was the best "in Person" version of Separate Ways I have seen. The excitement of the band and the crowd was unbelievable.

But after the show I made a list of the Good and The Bad of the Nashville show

THE GOOD
Neal Schon- This was the best performance I have seen from him, in the past he has seemed to walk thru the shows, but not tonight, this man made the show, even if ever thing else had been bad. He was on FIRE.

Jon Cain- Was like I said above, very good mood., good solo

Deen C.-sounded a little hoarse, but was the best vocal of night on open Arms, the crowd was wild when he sang
.
JSS-I actually came away with respect for him. I have not seen the front man of Journey all over the stage like this since Perry. Now Augeri was good, but laid back, like he was taking for a ride thru the hits. JSS WAS THE RIDE. He was all over the stage, messing around with each member of the band, and he was smiling and seemed to have the time of his life.

JSS's boots I have , he always cussed a lot, not here or tonight anyway! Did he owe the songs he sang? some, but not all.

JSS did good on ASK THE LONELY, CHAIN REACTION, WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE, LTS, STONE IN LOVE and ECSAPE.

Set list- to the point, varied a little from the hits

The Mention of Steve Augeri (twice), once by Cain, once by JSS :D

THE BAD
Set list- NOTHING from the AUGERI ERA NOTHING, no Faith in HEartland or Higher Place. :cry:

Stage- way too small for the bad, don't remember Neal coming over to my side more than once. Def's stage rocked.

JSS- as active and as much fun as he was having, some songs were not that great-
DOn't Stop Believing, Lights, Wheel in Sky and Any way was ok.

The Crowd only two, that managed to do what the security couldn't do, kill my recorder in the middle of Def's set when they tried to stand in the chair and fell ripping my recorder from around my neck and knocking it into the person beer next to me who dropped it and now it isn't working :( . Hopefully in a couple days after drying out it will play (if I can put it back together)


So my conclusion was it a good show? Oh yea.
Would I see this line up again? yes
would I buy a cd from them? yes
should they keep the name Journey? I don't know
Should JSS stay if Augeri don't come back? Maybe, maybe not, see question above.
Should Augeri be given a chance to come back? yes, but one chance only after a year off.
JSS did a great job, a great front man too. Plus he can sing. He isn't afraid of the high notes. But he doesn't take the Augeri approach, shys a way, or the Perry, going over the top. Instead he punches is way through them, in almost a howl. Reminds of a Hagar / Whitesnake mix. Not that that was bad, it was good. But it was until after the show, my wife and I were sitting in Waffle house and a couple Journey songs came on, my LTS was the first. We knew it was a Journey song, but was it Perry singing? Was it Journey playing? Took to the na nas to figure out it was. JSS actually sings a lot lower than Perry. At the show it was not noticeable, but after wards it was very. Perry has set the bar so dang high, can anyone do this right?
So I think JSS is awesome, really do. BUT, is he the right one, if Augeri don't come back healed? As of now I don't think so, the show was great last night, awesome, but really wasn't the high full Journey sound of the past.
I will support the band, and settle for this, cause it is good, but JSS is not a Perry sound a like, and Journey will always be about Perry (or his sound at least)-ERIC

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:17 am
by Abitaman
Def Lep was great too. Never seen a band have so much fun using vocal enhancements-ERIC

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:19 am
by Red13JoePa
Like that they're giving props to SA, JSS even dedicated an earlier show to him per the front page....

Gotta get FITH and EG back in the set. Learn a lesson from SA's infection and keep JC on Vox for EG.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:20 am
by whocares
The good, Journey sounded Good.

The bad, Journey is an opneing act for Def Leppard, of course they won't have much stage. :( Co-headliners they aren't, no matter what the publicity is/was.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:28 am
by NealIsGod
Glad you enjoyed it, Eric. I know you were worried!

re:

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:39 am
by lights1961
My show is tomorrow in the great upper midwest town of Minneapolis---I would think a little tweaking of the set list will be in order for this week??? Will post my reiview at the on the road section first..and then here--but probably not until weds night... as its a 4 hour drive there from Des Moines to the Twin Cities...and no lap top....---then were overnighting at my sisters..and then to work on weds back in Des Moines.... :(

thanks for the post Eric!


Rick

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:48 am
by ohsherrie
Thanks Eric, yours is one of the opinions I respect. Sounds like they really have possibilities with Jeff. The young Perry days are over and won't be back. Anyone who tries to sound like him will always be labelled a sound-alike. If the band has a future other than nostalgia they've got to do something different.

Re: re:

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:58 am
by daltonsdad
lights1961 wrote:My show is tomorrow in the great upper midwest town of Minneapolis---I would think a little tweaking of the set list will be in order for this week??? Will post my reiview at the on the road section first..and then here--but probably not until weds night... as its a 4 hour drive there from Des Moines to the Twin Cities...and no lap top....---then were overnighting at my sisters..and then to work on weds back in Des Moines.... :(

thanks for the post Eric!


Rick


Be safe and enjoy the show! I cannot wait to read another review. I inderstand it has been blazing hot in Minne so drink alot of water (before the beers) LOL! Just kidding! It has been scorching hot there recently. I hope they have tweaked this thing by now. I saw the initial installment and can only hope for the fans that practice makes for improvement! Good Luck & Enjoy!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:07 am
by Abitaman
ohsherrie wrote:Thanks Eric, yours is one of the opinions I respect. Sounds like they really have possibilities with Jeff. The young Perry days are over and won't be back. Anyone who tries to sound like him will always be labelled a sound-alike. If the band has a future other than nostalgia they've got to do something different.


I know. I think anyone who pushes there self to sound like Perry is going to shred their vocals!! Augeri was in a catch 22, cursed if He sounded like Perry (called a clone, etc..), and cursed if he followed his own trail (this is journey dude, you suppose to sound like Perry). SO, I think JSS may have, maybe more so for the group, may have a hard time with JSS. He is a great singer, but he is even farther way from Perry than Augeri. But, JSS really seemed to have good chemistry with all band members. If JSS had replace Perry, talk about an uprising. But if could possibly work now.
JSS really blew Be Good to Yourself last night horrible!!!, but Wanted, DOA he made his own. word of advise to JSS, keep the ear monitor in. He nailed Wanted without, but the song before and after, seemed off.
But like Augeri he made Escape his own too. So a lot of Ifs ands & buts...
Really bears watching, but I will not bad mouth JSS anymore, still don't know if he is "The One". Still like Augeri come back and step up and make more of the song his own, and less worry about having to sound like Perry-ERIC

Later in another post I'll tell about my doctor visit today, and the throat infection lesson I got-ERIC

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:08 am
by Abitaman
NealIsGod wrote:Glad you enjoyed it, Eric. I know you were worried!


More than worried-ERIC

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:55 pm
by RedWingFan
Def Lep was great too. Never seen a band have so much fun using vocal enhancements-ERIC


vocal enhancements? Did they use them during "Hellraiser" (that'd be understandable) or something? They had been accused of using them years ago and mentioned it on their Behind the Music. Even singing acapella to disprove it.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:13 pm
by Abitaman
RaiderFan wrote:
Def Lep was great too. Never seen a band have so much fun using vocal enhancements-ERIC


vocal enhancements? Did they use them during "Hellraiser" (that'd be understandable) or something? They had been accused of using them years ago and mentioned it on their Behind the Music. Even singing acapella to disprove it.


I do not remember Hellrazer being played. But he help on about ever song. At one point during Rocket, he was up there acting like he was singing, shold say humming grunting or whatever it was, But he got off some where and didn't look right.-ERIC

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:46 pm
by NoMoreTails
Red13JoePa wrote:Like that they're giving props to SA, JSS even dedicated an earlier show to him per the front page....

Gotta get FITH and EG back in the set. Learn a lesson from SA's infection and keep JC on Vox for EG.


At VA Beach Jeff dedicated every show he sings this tour to Steve, nice gesture.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:58 pm
by Red13JoePa
NoMoreTails wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Like that they're giving props to SA, JSS even dedicated an earlier show to him per the front page....

Gotta get FITH and EG back in the set. Learn a lesson from SA's infection and keep JC on Vox for EG.


At VA Beach Jeff dedicated every show he sings this tour to Steve, nice gesture.



Class, class act. this is awesome. 8)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:15 am
by Abitaman
In NAshville, right after ANYWAY, Cain intro JSS as filling in for an ailing Augeri, who is out for a while. Then later JSS mentioned said how great it was to be on stage with the best musicians minus one.

That got a few yells out of the crowd.-ERIC

PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:44 am
by perryfaithful
A pleasure to read your review

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:19 am
by Abitaman
perryfaithful wrote:A pleasure to read your review


Have you seen them yet?
Do you plan too?

Show a lot better than I would ever thought-ERIC

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:25 am
by Todd H
Journey w/Soto doing DSB live in Nashville...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inMK4m1o ... ch=journey

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:28 am
by NealIsGod
Todd H wrote:Journey w/Soto doing DSB live in Nashville...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inMK4m1o ... ch=journey


Thanks for posting, Todd. I feel a little seasick now... damn shaky cam!

Re: The Nashville Show-the Good and the Bad

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:46 am
by odessa
Abitaman wrote:Saw Journey and Def Leppard last night (Sunday), and I must say I came away quite surprised with what I have seen and heard. I have been totally against the JSS thing, with the fact being how it went about, and not thinking JSS was suited for Journey. But the set list for the show was
Star Spangled Banner
Any Way You Want It
Ask the Lonely
Stone in Love
Wheel in the Sky
Who's Crying Now with DC
Chain Reaction
Lights
Open Arm with DC
Lovin, Touchin, Squeezin
Escape
Dead or Alive
Be Good to Yourself
Faithfully with DC
Don't Stop Believing'
ENCORE-
Separate Ways

I was sitting in the first section and got a good view from Cain's side. THe place was sold out, I was told by a person working there that I was around 17,000 attending, do not know if that was true, but the place was paced, first I have ever been the the Starwood in Nashville (ok it a little outside of Nashville)
My wife and I got there right when the Who's Won't get fooled again, so we hurried up to our seats (had been told that was the song they came on stage after), sure enough there was Schon playing the SSB, I got ever one up. Which they stayed for most of the show. I was going to enjoy this show, even if I wasn't thrilled with how JSS might sound. It was a hot night, and the band was even hotter, Neal was soaked by the end of SSB. Deen sounded a little hoarse, but was still awesome, Cain was in a very good mood, smiling laughing and waving at fans. Ross, well Ross and JSS seemed to hang out and mess around a lot, that was good to see.
The only songs I saw people sitting down on was Edge of the blade, and Dead or Alive. The ripped thru them, especially DOA, but alot of people might have thought it was new or something? But the place went wild on the last three, Faithfully, Don't Stop... and the encore Separate Ways. Even as the band walked off stage people were screaming for more, and I was one of them. That was the best "in Person" version of Separate Ways I have seen. The excitement of the band and the crowd was unbelievable.

But after the show I made a list of the Good and The Bad of the Nashville show

THE GOOD
Neal Schon- This was the best performance I have seen from him, in the past he has seemed to walk thru the shows, but not tonight, this man made the show, even if ever thing else had been bad. He was on FIRE.

Jon Cain- Was like I said above, very good mood., good solo

Deen C.-sounded a little hoarse, but was the best vocal of night on open Arms, the crowd was wild when he sang
.
JSS-I actually came away with respect for him. I have not seen the front man of Journey all over the stage like this since Perry. Now Augeri was good, but laid back, like he was taking for a ride thru the hits. JSS WAS THE RIDE. He was all over the stage, messing around with each member of the band, and he was smiling and seemed to have the time of his life.

JSS's boots I have , he always cussed a lot, not here or tonight anyway! Did he owe the songs he sang? some, but not all.

JSS did good on ASK THE LONELY, CHAIN REACTION, WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE, LTS, STONE IN LOVE and ECSAPE.

Set list- to the point, varied a little from the hits

The Mention of Steve Augeri (twice), once by Cain, once by JSS :D

THE BAD
Set list- NOTHING from the AUGERI ERA NOTHING, no Faith in HEartland or Higher Place. :cry:

Stage- way too small for the bad, don't remember Neal coming over to my side more than once. Def's stage rocked.

JSS- as active and as much fun as he was having, some songs were not that great-
DOn't Stop Believing, Lights, Wheel in Sky and Any way was ok.

The Crowd only two, that managed to do what the security couldn't do, kill my recorder in the middle of Def's set when they tried to stand in the chair and fell ripping my recorder from around my neck and knocking it into the person beer next to me who dropped it and now it isn't working :( . Hopefully in a couple days after drying out it will play (if I can put it back together)


So my conclusion was it a good show? Oh yea.
Would I see this line up again? yes
would I buy a cd from them? yes
should they keep the name Journey? I don't know
Should JSS stay if Augeri don't come back? Maybe, maybe not, see question above.
Should Augeri be given a chance to come back? yes, but one chance only after a year off.
JSS did a great job, a great front man too. Plus he can sing. He isn't afraid of the high notes. But he doesn't take the Augeri approach, shys a way, or the Perry, going over the top. Instead he punches is way through them, in almost a howl. Reminds of a Hagar / Whitesnake mix. Not that that was bad, it was good. But it was until after the show, my wife and I were sitting in Waffle house and a couple Journey songs came on, my LTS was the first. We knew it was a Journey song, but was it Perry singing? Was it Journey playing? Took to the na nas to figure out it was. JSS actually sings a lot lower than Perry. At the show it was not noticeable, but after wards it was very. Perry has set the bar so dang high, can anyone do this right?
So I think JSS is awesome, really do. BUT, is he the right one, if Augeri don't come back healed? As of now I don't think so, the show was great last night, awesome, but really wasn't the high full Journey sound of the past.
I will support the band, and settle for this, cause it is good, but JSS is not a Perry sound a like, and Journey will always be about Perry (or his sound at least)-ERIC


Well done Eric! I respect the fact that you gave a balanced, honest and fair review for others who may also be wary of JSS. Glad you had a great time, but sorry to hear about the recorder breaking. Hope you can fix it.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:51 am
by Abitaman
It was a digital recorder. Took to my Bio Med class today, to see if we can fix it. We are trying, but it looks hopeless. All info lost, it appears that way anyway. Never know though.-ERIC

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:23 pm
by FormerJrnyFan
Abitaman wrote:It was a digital recorder. Took to my Bio Med class today, to see if we can fix it. We are trying, but it looks hopeless. All info lost, it appears that way anyway. Never know though.-ERIC


That really stinks, sorry :(