An exact soundalike is exactly what Jrny fans want!!!

by **McNeil** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:33 pm

Jeez people... there are some funny ideas out there!!!!

Who is fooling themselves into thinking that the majority of Journey fans(well..concert goers anyway).... thats the 40 and 50 something mums and pops would want a singer who doesnt sound a little like Perry??

If you can sound like Perry...and we know Jeremy and Hugo do (Chalfant to a certain degree..Augeri too))... its the ultimate "feather in the cap" accolade for any singer

Forget any ideas of a "new direction" for the band.... it isnt gonna happen..so just "get over it"

Everyone always marvels when a guy has pipes like Perry.... just read about the admiration for Jeremy in the posts here...

thats all it would take for the Jrny road show to continue..it isnt hard to figure and its not rocket science..and please give Jeremy and the others a little credit... they all write songs in their "own right" too .. they are all more than one trick ponies.. you wont find Perry's DNA on their person. Anyway... these guys sing naturally like Perry anyway..we all know people whose speaking voice is almost the same...same goes for singers...why on earth would you want to go for someone whose voice is nothing like yr signature sound...the sound which has built yr reputation and fortune.... if you wanna go down that route...well call it something else...erm..Soul Sirkus for instance !!!!! This is Journey.... Journey fans want the Journey sound...want something different?..then go somewhere else...listen to other bands..you will be well catered for elsewhere!!

Now... bring on the soundalikes please..and stop wasting everyones time

by **Journey/Survivor** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:01 pm

I have very mixed emotions on who I want to be Journey's singer in the future.

I have always been a huge Steve Perry fan, and in many ways I would love to see him back in Journey. But the thing is that after a few months Perry would start up his usual BS and he would then be gone in no-time.

I would love to see Steve Augeri return once he is fully recovered.

I was thinking that if Jeff Scott Soto would become the permenente lead singer in Journey it might help steer them in an even harder Rocking direction, which I would love. But unfortunately based on what I heard from that boot he sounded pretty bad for Journey. Great for Soul SirkUS, but bad for Journey.

I would love to see Kevin Chalfant become Journey's new singer! In fact I always felt that Neal made a big mistake in not bringing Chalfant in back in 1998.

by **Kaj** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:16 pm

I´m a huge JRNY fan and I don´t want this band to continue at all with a new singer.
SP is the man and without him,they can close the shop!!
They´ve gone to B-Journey with Augeri and now they´re in the C Division with Soto.
Soon they will be playing small clubs with only releasing new cd´s on the internet.
Wow,what an impressive future we´re looking at.

by **finalfight** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:21 pm

Kaj wrote:I´m a huge JRNY fan and I don´t want this band to continue at all with a new singer.
SP is the man and without him,they can close the shop!!
They´ve gone to B-Journey with Augeri and now they´re in the C Division with Soto.
Soon they will be playing small clubs with only releasing new cd´s on the internet.
Wow,what an impressive future we´re looking at.

Just like Prince did before his career went Steller again.

by **rdekker** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:30 pm

Kaj wrote:I´m a huge JRNY fan and I don´t want this band to continue at all with a new singer.
SP is the man and without him,they can close the shop!!
They´ve gone to B-Journey with Augeri and now they´re in the C Division with Soto.
Soon they will be playing small clubs with only releasing new cd´s on the internet.
Wow,what an impressive future we´re looking at.

Don't agree with you here, Arrival, RED13 and Generations are great albums. Journey should have dropped the dirty dozen years ago and they should have concentrated on Steve Augeri singing the range he can sing and not the songs he can't sing. This would have saved his voice, sure they would have lost alot of fans but on the other hand they would have gained alot as well.

by **Playitloudforme** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:52 pm

Rdekker, I'm the opposite. I think Arrival was ok at best, and Red13 & Generations were messy. Considering the majority of the fans react to the greatest hits (standing, cheering, Bic Lighter waving), rather than the newer songs (sitting down, not clapping, going to the rest room or beer line), the band made the decision to stick with the classic catalogue during concerts. Concerts are the band's bread & butter, so they didn't really have much choice. They get no support on their CDs, so their income right now is residuals and concerts. I think that has to be why Neal wanted Soul SirkUS to work... to give him a creative outlet for the harder rock he's been dying to play.

I'm HOPING that he doesn't kidnap Journey and force it down a rougher road. I don't think the fans would adapt that well. I know I wouldn't. I live for those searing vocals. And I'm picky. I want them to sound good, as close to Perry's level as possible. And I want them live. JSS will do for now, but I'm hoping Neal won't force it down a Soul SirkUS road. I'd love to hear newer songs if they still had that Journey signature sound to it. I don't know that JSS is able to do that, nor do I think that SA could anymore. Time will tell. But I tell ya... I miss Journey.

by **McNeil** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:57 pm

[quote from "Playitloudforme"
And I'm picky. I want them to sound good, as close to Perry's level as possible. And I want them live.

Yeah man.... like I said at the head of this thread...thats what the majority want.... a voice that sounds like Perry/Journey...... bring on Jeremy.... nails Perry perfectly..powerful voice...does it live all the time..... no easing the guy in..he can just do it!!!

by **NealIsGod** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:10 pm

neilmaclookalike wrote:bring on Jeremy.... nails Perry perfectly..powerful voice...does it live all the time..... no easing the guy in..he can just do it!!!

True dat.

by **ohsherrie** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:46 pm

I guess I just want more from a band with the name Journey than being a tribute band imitating itself. I certainly don't mean that as an insult to Jeremy or Hugo. (I personally prefer Jeremy's sound to Hugo's because I think he has more power and depth in his vocals.) The difference to me is that their bands aren't calling themselves Journey. Jeremy has called his act musical theater. If that's what people want Journey to be, an entertaining evening listening to Journey hits performed by a skilled vocalist who can sound like Perry, then I guess what you want is an exact sound alike. That's not to say that Neal and Jon don't in any way constitute the Journey sound, but if they have to have a Perry clone to keep touring it's says they can't carry it off without the Perry sound.

That hasn't worked too well for them for the past 8 years though. Oh I know a lot of the people who post on these boards have been well satisfied with what they've done, but that's such a small sampling of their potential audience. They've played smaller venues for each year that they've continued touring and now gone to opening act status. They can't sell their new stuff, could hardly give Generations away(as compared to what Journey potential market should be). If they continue down this route how long before they're eventually relegated to the free local festival status?

I think the dignity and credibility of Journey deserve more than that. I see their only chance of doing more than that as steering away from imitating themselves. Perry said in a recent interview that one reason he's hesitant get back into the business is because he doesn't want to be a parody of himself. IMO, Journey needs to look at it the same way.

If they can't get out of this nostalgia rut they just need to give it up. IMO

by **JrnySuxBalls** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:20 pm

Nice post.

With the U.S. market the way it is now (many other bands are having troubles too), they could
invest more touring time & marketing in Europe, which they have finally stopped ignoring. There's
money to be made, the audiences aren't so "Perry obsessed" and they're more open to
hearing new material.

It's worked for Toto, a band that can't get arrested in the States it seems anymore.

by **DerriD** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:54 pm

As long as they are selling out 19000+ arenas (yes I know as an 'opener'), they won't change a thing. The dirty dozen is fixed for the forseeable future. Now if their popularity goes in the tank, which is unlikely as most of their hits are well over 20 years old, they might concentrate on newer material. Then they could tour for 'art's sake'. Funny thing is even die hard fans who like the new stuff would start mentioning how sad it would be if they toured clubs.

by **Eric** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:59 pm

I don't want a sound-a-like. I am excited about JSS progressing and what the future could hold.

Europe is a good idear, especially with JSS at the front now. They now have presence there.

by **McNeil** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:39 pm

Eric wrote:I don't want a sound-a-like. I am excited about JSS progressing and what the future could hold.

Europe is a good idear, especially with JSS at the front now. They now have presence there.

I agree to a certain degree..I saw em in Manchester England.... and yes..UK and European audiences are far more flexible..and generally wanna rock a bit more... but they cracked it with Steve A at the helm... to come here again with a different singer.... well...who knows ??

by **The Fly** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:40 pm

NealIsGod wrote:
neilmaclookalike wrote:bring on Jeremy.... nails Perry perfectly..powerful voice...does it live all the time..... no easing the guy in..he can just do it!!!

True dat.

I am not familiar with this Jeremy guy. Can someone point out a place where I can hear him? Thanks.

by **McNeil** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:46 pm

http://www.samhillbands.com/bands/frontiers/index.shtml

link to one of the sites hosting Jeremy and Frontiers... just load the page..and you will hear audio clips straight away... u gotta be impressed..let me know

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:50 pm

Evilweevil wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
neilmaclookalike wrote:bring on Jeremy.... nails Perry perfectly..powerful voice...does it live all the time..... no easing the guy in..he can just do it!!!

True dat.

I am not familiar with this Jeremy guy. Can someone point out a place where I can hear him? Thanks.

Jeremy is a poster on here. Pretty smart guy. He is funny as fuck when he drinks and has girl problems. It's like trying to read Abitaman with swear words included. One day, it took me an hour to read one paragraph from Jeremy. However, he can sing like a motherfucker.

by **Red13JoePa** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:56 pm

rdekker wrote:
Kaj wrote:I´m a huge JRNY fan and I don´t want this band to continue at all with a new singer.
SP is the man and without him,they can close the shop!!
They´ve gone to B-Journey with Augeri and now they´re in the C Division with Soto.
Soon they will be playing small clubs with only releasing new cd´s on the internet.
Wow,what an impressive future we´re looking at.

Don't agree with you here, Arrival, RED13 and Generations are great albums. Journey should have dropped the dirty dozen years ago and they should have concentrated on Steve Augeri singing the range he can sing and not the songs he can't sing. This would have saved his voice, sure they would have lost alot of fans but on the other hand they would have gained alot as well.

My dream, but then they would've been playing biker bars.

by **amaron** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:01 am

Being a Perry soundalike is what killed Augeri.

by **brywool** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:02 am

Personally, I don't want an exact soundalike. I want someone who can sing the songs, hit the notes without it sounding painful. Soto doesn't fit the bill. Get Rick Emmett in there, he's got a ton of range, he could do it. It'd also be awesome to have a singer that plays that kind of guitar. But the guy has to be able to hit the notes of the hits.

Finally heard Jeremy. HOLY F*CK!!!!
DUDE! You Wail!!!! MUCH better than Hugo. Way more power. Awesome!
Hey, If you ever wanna talk vocals, private message me! I'm a singer as well for 25 years or so.
Sounds as close to Perry as I've EVER heard. Got anymore stuff where you're not singing Journey?
Awesome.

If Augeri doesn't come back (and I heard from a good source he WILL be back)- Schon should definitely get in touch with YOU. WOW. Totally blown away.

by **Red13JoePa** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:24 am

Hunsicker's voice is well-kept secret weapon.

If he could jsut resolve his business w/ Cain's publishing company and Fingers Of Joy Music....

by **EightyRock** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:33 am

Journey became a parody of itself when they went down the road of using taped vocals with Augeri. I swear I gave them every opportunity to win me over as a fan of that line-up, but the longer they were on the road, the more ugly it got. The first couple years were bearable live (never great) and Arrival was pretty good, but it didn't have Augeri's contribution at all. Why not? I realized it was the songs I liked and his vocals on the CD weren't impressing me at all. It was generic Journey. Schon comes along with a total left turn and Red13. Uh....no thanks. Augeri starts having more live voice problems and Generations is released. The concerts got painful to see and Generations was IMO the worst CD Journey ever released. No cohesion, just a mess of vocals and styles.
Forget the Perry "clones". Insist on that route and they limit themselves to the few that might hit those notes night after night, but (like Augeri) have poor writing chemistry with the band. Is that worth sacrificing just to continue being nothing more than a greatest hits act year after year? God, if that's what Journey has become, they've lost what attracted me to them in the first place and that wasn't Perry, at first. It was their musicianship from day one! If they lose their creativity and spontaneity, their live act is going to suffer jlike it has in the past 3 or 4 years, IMO. Get the juices flowing again with Soto and leave at least SOME of the old material behind. Quit trying to recreate 1981 and either move forward or pack it up and go home.

by **A Fire Inside** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:01 am

If they WANT to go in a new direction, let them. If they want a Perry clone, let them. It's not my band to decide what they need to do.

But personally, I think it would be great if they got someone who sounded similar to Steve Perry but didn't base his career around the man (a la Hugo)... I agree with ohsherrie: "I guess I just want more from a band with the name Journey than being a tribute band imitating itself." No tribute band singers, please, as much as they sound like SP.

But again, it's not my band.

by **fred_journeyman** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:14 am

Kaj wrote:I´m a huge JRNY fan and I don´t want this band to continue at all with a new singer.
SP is the man and without him,they can close the shop!!
They´ve gone to B-Journey with Augeri and now they´re in the C Division with Soto.
Soon they will be playing small clubs with only releasing new cd´s on the internet.
Wow,what an impressive future we´re looking at.

You have a point I agree with.

This "changing of the lead singers" is becoming a bit ridiculous. They either need to find a singer who can handle the rigors of the songs (night after night), and do absolute justice to them, or pack it in.

The ridiculous part of all this is that for me at least, it's becoming "Okay, how long will this current singer last before HIS voice is shot to hell? NEXT!" Can you see the cartoon? Journey is on stage, in front of a live crowd. Off to the audience's left, just off stage, is a line up of guys all holding mics, wearing a number, waiting. In the middle of the stage is the "current" singer, while off to the right is a line of singers whose voices are shot and as they leave the stage, a doctor approaches. Oh, and Steve Perry is in the crowd, laughing his ass off.

by **The Fly** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:32 am

neilmaclookalike wrote:http://www.samhillbands.com/bands/frontiers/index.shtml

link to one of the sites hosting Jeremy and Frontiers... just load the page..and you will hear audio clips straight away... u gotta be impressed..let me know

Thank you. Yeah he sounds like Journey. :lol:

Hire him!!

by **The Fly** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:33 am

amaron wrote:Being a Perry soundalike is what killed Augeri.

How do you figure?

by **amaron** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:34 am

Evilweevil wrote:
amaron wrote:Being a Perry soundalike is what killed Augeri.

How do you figure?

Because no matter how well he sung the songs, he would never be fully accepted as Perry's replacement.

by **The Fly** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:35 am

amaron wrote:
Evilweevil wrote:
amaron wrote:Being a Perry soundalike is what killed Augeri.

How do you figure?

Because no matter how well he sung the songs, he would never be fully accepted as Perry's replacement.

Many had accepted him. I think it's more about not being able to sing right now more than anything.

by **NealIsGod** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:40 am

amaron wrote:
Evilweevil wrote:
amaron wrote:Being a Perry soundalike is what killed Augeri.

How do you figure?

Because no matter how well he sung the songs, he would never be fully accepted as Perry's replacement.

By a very few manic Perry fans. The majority of fans who see them live are casual fans who don't even know Perry is gone. Perry's following is not as big as you think. It's the music that keeps people coming back.

by **Perry86fan** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:47 am

I am a Perry fan and will always be one.As for journey now i don't care any more it's not the same & never will be again. In someways i would like to see it end & go to something new.But i would love for everyone to love journy and hear them.Even if Perry will never be there again. Would i go see them nope i saw them in the 80's I wish JSS all the best because he is going to need it.Just please try not to be asound alike just be yourself.

by **whocares** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:06 am

Most concertgoers don't want a Perry soundalike, hell they just want to hear the songs. Most fans here that love Perry certainly don't want a look alike or sound alike, as there was previously. If anyone thinks Singing songs "just like" Perry doesn't ruin voices, then they know nothing about singing correctly. This is something that through time will never change, Journey is a love hate thing with the band and the fans, the two sides of love. Love Perry or love anyone else who is the lead singer.

It's funny the more Jeremy says he woudln't/doesn't want the job, the more his name is brought up. Certainly after the fiasco earlier, he wouldn't take it, as his feelings towards the band members changed, everyone could see that.

MR

An exact soundalike is exactly what Jrny fans want!!!

An exact soundalike is exactly what Jrny fans want!!!

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