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Classic Rock Magazine and tape-gate!

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:14 am
by bionic
Though i have not seen it yet it seems they are running the article regarding tapes etc and now Jeff singing for them. I read this on BT were a lot of people are very upset and cancelling subscriptions etc? Has anyone seen this article yet? Cant be that bad can it?

Re: Classic Rock Magazine and tape-gate!

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:16 am
by Liam
bionic wrote:Though i have not seen it yet it seems they are running the article regarding tapes etc and now Jeff singing for them. I read this on BT were a lot of people are very upset and cancelling subscriptions etc? Has anyone seen this article yet? Cant be that bad can it?

A little negativity and they cancel their subscriptions??? That's the funniest (Or saddest) thing I've read today. LOL
Re: Classic Rock Magazine and tape-gate!

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:22 am
by perryfaithful
bionic wrote:Though i have not seen it yet it seems they are running the article regarding tapes etc and now Jeff singing for them. I read this on BT were a lot of people are very upset and cancelling subscriptions etc? Has anyone seen this article yet? Cant be that bad can it?

Would like to know if the author tried to get an official statement from the band as part of the article.
Re: Classic Rock Magazine and tape-gate!

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:25 am
by bionic
perryfaithful wrote:bionic wrote:Though i have not seen it yet it seems they are running the article regarding tapes etc and now Jeff singing for them. I read this on BT were a lot of people are very upset and cancelling subscriptions etc? Has anyone seen this article yet? Cant be that bad can it?

Would like to know if the author tried to get an official statement from the band as part of the article.
They may have tried but little chance of that i would imagine,they are not evan talking to there fans on the website.Some people sound disraught like Steve Augeri is dieing! and are asking him to post a statement of his health for them?

Re: Classic Rock Magazine and tape-gate!

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:25 am
by whocares
perryfaithful wrote:
Would like to know if the author tried to get an official statement from the band as part of the article.
I think we ALL know the official statement by now...
how many people from there could possibly have suscriptions to the magazine anyway? Can't be that BIG of a loss in revenue.

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:47 am
by fred_journeyman
The funniest part of all this is all the people who keep referring to this situation as "gossip" and that the band should/could take the magazine to court. Denial...denial...

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:06 am
by Rock Fn
fred_journeyman wrote:The funniest part of all this is all the people who keep referring to this situation as "gossip" and that the band should/could take the magazine to court. Denial...denial...
No shit Fred. They've said nothing about it. people need to pull their head out of their collective asses and deal with reality. They were caught and Journey is now sinking.
Now that I'm a rant, what really pisses me off, is they deceived fans by saying this was a co-headliner tour and people shelled out big bucs for that vip bullshit. For what? To see a sinking ship on a 10x10 stage? Perry was right, they should have left Journey alone.
The Rock n Roll hall of fame?. Yea right


Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:10 am
by whocares
Rock Fn, I'm there with you abotu them getting in the HOF, however there will probably be someone soon, mentioning (rightfully so) that the HOF is a joke, but their reason will be because Journey isn't already in, Not because it actually IS a joke. They're doing NOTHING to help themselves out as far as credibility anymore.
Thinking of Steve Miller... Whooooa take the money and run...

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:17 am
by Blueskies
Rock Fn wrote:fred_journeyman wrote:The funniest part of all this is all the people who keep referring to this situation as "gossip" and that the band should/could take the magazine to court. Denial...denial...
No shit Fred. They've said nothing about it. people need to pull their head out of their collective asses and deal with reality. They were caught and Journey is now sinking.
Now that I'm a rant, what really pisses me off, is they deceived fans by saying this was a co-headliner tour and people shelled out big bucs for that vip bullshit. For what? To see a sinking ship on a 10x10 stage? Perry was right, they should have left Journey alone.
The Rock n Roll hall of fame?. Yea right

Yeah! What you said. I want my money back


Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:42 am
by bionic
fred_journeyman wrote:The funniest part of all this is all the people who keep referring to this situation as "gossip" and that the band should/could take the magazine to court. Denial...denial...
If the magazine has posted a lie can the management sue them? I asked this on the site,BUT what if its true can they still sue them?


Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:47 am
by Barb
Did they state as fact that he was lipping or did they say it in a way that covers their ass like "there are rumors" or "it's being reported that..."
bionic wrote:If the magazine has posted a lie can the management sue them? I asked this on the site,BUT what if its true can they still sue them?


Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:05 am
by A Fire Inside
thevoicelover wrote:Rock Fn wrote:Now that I'm a rant, what really pisses me off, is they deceived fans by saying this was a co-headliner tour and people shelled out big bucs for that vip bullshit. For what? To see a sinking ship on a 10x10 stage? Perry was right, they should have left Journey alone.
The Rock n Roll hall of fame?. Yea right

Yeah! What you said. I want my money back

What a bunch of whiners.

Re: Classic Rock Magazine and tape-gate!

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:06 am
by MartyMoffatt
Escape79 wrote:bionic wrote:Though i have not seen it yet it seems they are running the article regarding tapes etc and now Jeff singing for them. I read this on BT were a lot of people are very upset and cancelling subscriptions etc? Has anyone seen this article yet? Cant be that bad can it?

A little negativity and they cancel their subscriptions??? That's the funniest (Or saddest) thing I've read today. LOL
If you're going to start dissing the thread on the 'other' site at least check on what was actually said. Nobody has cancelled their subscription as a result of this 'newspiece'. One person said they might consider it, and several others said they had cancelled their subscription to the magazine long ago, due to its dubious quality. I cancelled my subscription last year because most of the news' is months out of date or inaccurate, the articles are often biased and the magazine publishers don't seem to be very fan friendly - unless you are buying Ad space with them they are not keen to enter into correspondence with you. Nothing to do with recent allegations.
Marty

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:12 am
by bionic
Marty Moffat..Hello you are on my case as usual

Well it seems people are very upset with the magazine thats for sure and it seems they dont recommend it as its all gossip which i dont agree with. Maybe next time we are at a gig you can come over and say hello and i will buy you a beer,you may not find me as bad as you think


Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:17 am
by MartyMoffatt
bionic wrote:Marty Moffat..Hello you are on my case as usual

Well it seems people are very upset with the magazine thats for sure and it seems they dont recommend it as its all gossip which i dont agree with. Maybe next time we are at a gig you can come over and say hello and i will buy you a beer,you may not find me as bad as you think

Hi Ray, I wasn't having a go at you this time, just at the sarcasm of the post following yours.
Cheers, Marty

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:18 am
by bionic
Barb wrote:Did they state as fact that he was lipping or did they say it in a way that covers their ass like "there are rumors" or "it's being reported that..."
bionic wrote:If the magazine has posted a lie can the management sue them? I asked this on the site,BUT what if its true can they still sue them?

Not sure as i have not read it?


Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:18 am
by bionic
MartyMoffatt wrote:bionic wrote:Marty Moffat..Hello you are on my case as usual

Well it seems people are very upset with the magazine thats for sure and it seems they dont recommend it as its all gossip which i dont agree with. Maybe next time we are at a gig you can come over and say hello and i will buy you a beer,you may not find me as bad as you think

Hi Ray, I wasn't having a go at you this time, just at the sarcasm of the post following yours.
Cheers, Marty
You still o.k for that beer then?


Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:57 am
by MartyMoffatt
bionic wrote:MartyMoffatt wrote:bionic wrote:Marty Moffat..Hello you are on my case as usual

Well it seems people are very upset with the magazine thats for sure and it seems they dont recommend it as its all gossip which i dont agree with. Maybe next time we are at a gig you can come over and say hello and i will buy you a beer,you may not find me as bad as you think

Hi Ray, I wasn't having a go at you this time, just at the sarcasm of the post following yours.
Cheers, Marty
You still o.k for that beer then?

Beer sounds good


Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:24 am
by Blueskies
A Fire Inside wrote:thevoicelover wrote:Rock Fn wrote:Now that I'm a rant, what really pisses me off, is they deceived fans by saying this was a co-headliner tour and people shelled out big bucs for that vip bullshit. For what? To see a sinking ship on a 10x10 stage? Perry was right, they should have left Journey alone.
The Rock n Roll hall of fame?. Yea right

Yeah! What you said. I want my money back

What a bunch of whiners.

Hey Inside! My response was HUMOR

You ever heard of it?

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:38 am
by A Fire Inside
It's pretty hard to hear sarcasm through the Internet, voicelover.

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:53 am
by Argus
A Fire Inside wrote:It's pretty hard to hear sarcasm through the Internet, voicelover.
<sarcasm> Oh really?</sarcasm> works for me, how about you


Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:04 am
by Rockindeano
I spoke to Dave Ling about this last month. Hell, I knew it was coming. Think they are bent out of shape about this, there will a much bigger news article coming next month, that will dwarf this one, so get ready.
I find it funny over at BT, they want the band to sue the magazine. You can't sue someone who is telling the truth. Jesus.....

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:06 am
by whocares
Sure you can Deano, if you want to lose a lot of money by throwing it away.

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:53 am
by NYer
BT'ers cancelling their subscriptions?
They probably can't afford it and are just looking for an excuse. 
They just got a new subscriber.

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:00 pm
by The Fly
Rockn'deano wrote:I spoke to Dave Ling about this last month. Hell, I knew it was coming. Think they are bent out of shape about this, there will a much bigger news article coming next month, that will dwarf this one, so get ready.
I find it funny over at BT, they want the band to sue the magazine. You can't sue someone who is telling the truth. Jesus.....
What magazine is that? How much did they pay ya?


Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:46 pm
by bionic
Rockn'deano wrote:I spoke to Dave Ling about this last month. Hell, I knew it was coming. Think they are bent out of shape about this, there will a much bigger news article coming next month, that will dwarf this one, so get ready.
I find it funny over at BT, they want the band to sue the magazine. You can't sue someone who is telling the truth. Jesus.....
A bigger article? can you tell us what that is?


Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:59 pm
by A Fire Inside
Rockn'deano wrote:Think they are bent out of shape about this, there will a much bigger news article coming next month, that will dwarf this one, so get ready.
Aren't these magazines extremely late on the subject? The band already took the offending singer out of the running...

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:47 pm
by mallet
Morons!! Please read
Ive been here some time now...decided to sign up...this forum is riddled with repulsive, small minded, and small-dicked, (evidently), little toss-pots
I dont know who the moderators are here.. but they should be shot..... the language used here is excessive...and the abuse seems very personal
What Monker says is correct
There seems to be about half a dozen people here who are ignoring Andrew's requests...and plainly just not interested in keeping this forum "clean and informed" they quite clearly are just "taking the piss" out of Andrew..and have no respect for his wishes at all .....
It all makes for pretty pathetic reading, from an "outsiders" point of view.. I think a few have lost the plot here.... the place needs to be "cleansed" of the detritus, .. (I think the word "morons, was used..how apt..as the standard of post here is pretty moronic) and needs to be rebuilt
Adios to some of you I think, when normality returns
you people get the drift yet??

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:42 pm
by cetera
Rockn'deano wrote:I spoke to Dave Ling about this last month. Hell, I knew it was coming. Think they are bent out of shape about this, there will a much bigger news article coming next month, that will dwarf this one, so get ready.
Dave Ling is known over here (in his native country) as the man who reviews bands from the bar (which often is not in sight of the stage). Noone takes him seriously and Classic Rock is always 2 months late on any news.... by which point those who 'care' already know, and those that 'don't care' could give a shit anyway......


Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:15 pm
by joybringer1
Although I don't know Dave Ling personally, I certainly respect his opinions and his writings and am a daily visitor to his very entertaining website with online diary at
www.daveling.co.uk. He was ecstatic after seeing Journey in Manchester and gutted to learn he'd been conned. Sounds like he used to be a piss-head as a younger man so wouldn't surprise me if he hadn't reviewed from the bar back then. Not anymore though.