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This is just an FYI for anyone that cares. I placed an order from an Amazon.com Seller for the 4 reissues that I knew for sure were out. After the order was placed I received an email from the seller stating that he had Departure also and that he could not find a listing for in on Amazon. He asked me if I wanted to add it to my order, so of course I said yeah. I received the order about an hour ago and sure enough Departure was with the others. The reason for this is I guess because I ordered PROMO Copies (got lowest prices), so there are some PROMO copies of Departure out there if anyone wants to buy them early. Also what I found interesting on the last page under “Reissue Credits” it does NOT say: Remastered by Bob Ludwig and Brian Lee, etc (1996). INSTEAD it says Remastered by Dave Donnelly at DNA Mastering, Studio City, CA. It has no year. Any thoughts on this?

I also have scans of the booklet if any one is interested. I know the Evolution booklet scans were posted so it is allowed right?

Classic Rock wrote:This is just an FYI for anyone that cares. I placed an order from an Amazon.com Seller for the 4 reissues that I knew for sure were out. After the order was placed I received an email from the seller stating that he had Departure also and that he could not find a listing for in on Amazon. He asked me if I wanted to add it to my order, so of course I said yeah. I received the order about an hour ago and sure enough Departure was with the others. The reason for this is I guess because I ordered PROMO Copies (got lowest prices), so there are some PROMO copies of Departure out there if anyone wants to buy them early. Also what I found interesting on the last page under “Reissue Credits” it does NOT say: Remastered by Bob Ludwig and Brian Lee, etc (1996). INSTEAD it says Remastered by Dave Donnelly at DNA Mastering, Studio City, CA. It has no year. Any thoughts on this?

I also have scans of the booklet if any one is interested. I know the Evolution booklet scans were posted so it is allowed right?

Let's see the booklet scans! Those Evolution pics sure were fun!

Ditto that! I'm going to buy it anyway, but I'd like to see the scans.

Departure Booklet Scans:

Pages 2 & 3: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/beatles182/1c02252c.jpg
Pages 4 & 5: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/beatles182/efb4712a.jpg
Pages 6 & 7: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/beatles182/b681121e.jpg
Pages 8 & 9: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/beatles182/383c7c4e.jpg
Pages 10 & 11: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/beatles182/b48e20cd.jpg
Pages 12 & 13: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/beatles182/0a609ea0.jpg
Pages 14 & 15: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/beatles182/60db54dc.jpg

Anyone have any thoughts on the remastering credit? What year could it have been done?

Classic Rock wrote:Departure Booklet Scans:

Pages 2 & 3: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/beatles182/1c02252c.jpg
Pages 4 & 5: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/beatles182/efb4712a.jpg
Pages 6 & 7: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/beatles182/b681121e.jpg
Pages 8 & 9: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/beatles182/383c7c4e.jpg
Pages 10 & 11: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/beatles182/b48e20cd.jpg
Pages 12 & 13: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/beatles182/0a609ea0.jpg
Pages 14 & 15: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/beatles182/60db54dc.jpg

Anyone have any thoughts on the remastering credit? What year could it have been done?

These are absolutely awesome!Thanks so much for scanning and sharing!

Classic Rock wrote:Also what I found interesting on the last page under “Reissue Credits” it does NOT say: Remastered by Bob Ludwig and Brian Lee, etc (1996). INSTEAD it says Remastered by Dave Donnelly at DNA Mastering, Studio City, CA. It has no year. Any thoughts on this?

All of these are the NEW remasters (or re-re-masters if you will) done under the auspices of SP. So for a lot of the albums, this is their third appearance on CD.

Infinity has had no less than five masterings on CD: the original, the gold disc, the PDLS version from Japan, the regular remaster, and the new one.

And the pre-Perry years? Still on the original masterings

StyxCollector wrote:

Classic Rock wrote:Also what I found interesting on the last page under “Reissue Credits” it does NOT say: Remastered by Bob Ludwig and Brian Lee, etc (1996). INSTEAD it says Remastered by Dave Donnelly at DNA Mastering, Studio City, CA. It has no year. Any thoughts on this?

All of these are the NEW remasters (or re-re-masters if you will) done under the auspices of SP. So for a lot of the albums, this is their third appearance on CD.

Infinity has had no less than five masterings on CD: the original, the gold disc, the PDLS version from Japan, the regular remaster, and the new one.

And the pre-Perry years? Still on the original masterings

I get what your saying but the reason alot of fans are choosing not to get these reissues is because many of them own them from when they were rereleased/remastered in 1996. The only thing new they would get is the booklet and digipack. The remastering credit for the ones that just came out are the same as the remastering credit from 1996 EXCEPT Departure. Why is Bob Ludwig (1996) in all four of the reissues except Departure? That is my question.

Classic Rock wrote:I get what your saying but the reason alot of fans are choosing not to get these reissues is because many of them own them from when they were rereleased/remastered in 1996. The only thing new they would get is the booklet and digipack. The remastering credit for the ones that just came out are the same as the remastering credit from 1996 EXCEPT Departure. Why is Bob Ludwig (1996) in all four of the reissues except Departure? That is my question.

They were all supposed to be new remasters, so guess they deviated from that plan, and it means that most likely the pause between "Lovin' ..." and "City of the Angels" problem was not fixed (the problem only appears on the 1996 remaster).

StyxCollector wrote:They were all supposed to be new remasters, so guess they deviated from that plan, and it means that most likely the pause between "Lovin' ..." and "City of the Angels" problem was not fixed (the problem only appears on the 1996 remaster).

I hate that extra space between those two tracks, though it does make it easier to separate the two when you're making MP3s.

conversationpc wrote:I hate that extra space between those two tracks, though it does make it easier to separate the two when you're making MP3s.

For those of us who prefer gapless music and players, it's really annoying.

Well, I got Departure and Evolution in the mail today. Evolution is the same master, so there's still the gap. Thanks Steve, Journey, and Sony for the crappy non-fix.

Don't waste your money on Departure when it comes out IMHO. The new mastering IMHO sounds horrible. It's bright, and the drums and cymbals sound very unnatural (esp. the snare in places). "Little Girl" for example sounds way better on both the Dream After Dream CD as well as on Time3.

loved the pics... I am still debating on this one whether to get the reissues or not...
I think it would have been better to have a rarity CD with all the b sides and such---and not these reissues......just my thought.

Management sure had em on the road for LOOONG periods of time though huh?? No wonder Gregg left in 80.. he must of been worn out...and he looked it when you see those pictures of him.

Rick

Anyone want both Departure and Evolution for $12 including shipping in the USA? PM me. Departure was played once, and Evolution for 10 seconds.

A bargain since I think these are like $12 new each.