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If there is God, and if he doesn't want Augeri to recover and sing for Journey anymore, and since Perry won't, then he will require Dean to sing. I know Dean is a great drummer, bla, bla, bla, who cares! Would anyone notice the difference with another drummer back there? No. Will anyone notice if he comes out front to sing? Hell yes! He's too damn good on vocals to pound the skins.

And don't even start in on Soto. I love Soto's voice, but it is not the Journey sound. I hope Jeff and Neal will do more together because they have a great chemistry and make great music...But Journey is my favorite band, and what makes it so special is Neal's playing, and that special vocal style that few can emulate, but Dean has got that special something.

NOT....GOING....TO....HAPPEN.

conversationpc wrote:NOT....GOING....TO....HAPPEN.

Heathen. For God anything is possible. Besides, maybe Neal and Jonathan will just make him.

conversationpc wrote:NOT....GOING....TO....HAPPEN.

Thank you!!
What is so hard to understand? Deen has said no to a lead singing position, his sister has confirmed this- Deen is a drummer, a fantastic drummer with a great voice. JSS is singing. JSS is out front. JSS is lead. JSS saved this tour for Journey. Rock on and enjoy.

Oh wait- are talking about Dean as in Rockin'deano?

rap_still_sucks wrote:

conversationpc wrote:NOT....GOING....TO....HAPPEN.

Heathen. For God anything is possible. Besides, maybe Neal and Jonathan will just make him.

Dean would beat the hell out of their skulls with the thick end of his drumsticks.

If Augeri doesn't come back and Kevin Chalfant soedn't want, I would go with Deen too. But D. says he doesn't want, and Neal or someone has said they don't think his voice would hold out. -ERIC

It is spelled DEEN! Not Dean !

Lula wrote:

conversationpc wrote:NOT....GOING....TO....HAPPEN.

Thank you!!
What is so hard to understand? Deen has said no to a lead singing position, his sister has confirmed this- Deen is a drummer, a fantastic drummer with a great voice. JSS is singing. JSS is out front. JSS is lead. JSS saved this tour for Journey. Rock on and enjoy.

Oh wait- are talking about Dean as in Rockin'deano?

What's so hard for YOU to understand? Thousands of drummers can fill this gig, almost no singers can. He can beat the skins at home if he likes it so much. If he wants Journey to provide good paying jobs for him and everyone else, if he is a team player he will step up and do what it seems only he can.

If he is a true fan, he will accept it, and do it for the team if though he may not want to.

rap_still_sucks wrote:... If he is a true fan, he will accept it, and do it for the team if though he may not want to.

But, he doesn't need to

Deen cannot come out front to sing because of all of his surgical modifications. This was supposed to be Top Secret, James Bond kinda stuff but...
Deen has a synthetic air bladder implant just below his breatbone. As he is drumming and his arms are flapping, air is pumped from this air bladder thru a duct to his throat/vocal chords. This air allows Deen to not only keep bashing away but to also hit those soaring highes with such grace. If he were to come out front, he would have to stand there and air drum the whole time and, frankly, that would look quite silly

Anyone buying this???

Deen as had already some problems with his throat from what I read in the past. Deen knows what is good for him. Do you want Deen to blow out his voice because you want him to take over lead singing duties? I don't see Neal, etc, forcing Deen to take the lead spot.

What I see here is that you want something, and you are not getting it. It seems to me that Neal, etc, are pleased with JSS fronting the band for the rest of the tour. I, myself, welcome the change that JSS brings. Sure, I like to hear the hits, but, and this is where we differ, I don't want to hear them exactly sung the way Steve P or Steve A sang them. Change happens, growth happens. It is life. I would like to see what happens with Journey after the tour is over. If JSS is asked to continue as Journey's lead singer, I will accept him and Journey's choice with open arms. ( sorry, I just had to put that in there ! )

journeygal wrote:

rap_still_sucks wrote:... If he is a true fan, he will accept it, and do it for the team if though he may not want to.

But, he doesn't need to

He doesn't need to? Are you high? Have you listened to Deen do this songs? Do you have Generations? Have you heard Jeff do these songs?

I thought we told the truth in this forum. This begins to feel like BT, only here everyone does for Soto what BT does for Augeri.

Lets get real. Other than Perry, nobody can do these songs justice like Deen. His has the magic. And I'm sorry, but Soto doesn't (for Journey) and neither does Chalfant.

rap_still_sucks wrote:

Lula wrote:

conversationpc wrote:NOT....GOING....TO....HAPPEN.

Thank you!!
What is so hard to understand? Deen has said no to a lead singing position, his sister has confirmed this- Deen is a drummer, a fantastic drummer with a great voice. JSS is singing. JSS is out front. JSS is lead. JSS saved this tour for Journey. Rock on and enjoy.

Oh wait- are talking about Dean as in Rockin'deano?

What's so hard for YOU to understand? Thousands of drummers can fill this gig, almost no singers can. He can beat the skins at home if he likes it so much. If he wants Journey to provide good paying jobs for him and everyone else, if he is a team player he will step up and do what it seems only he can.

If he is a true fan, he will accept it, and do it for the team if though he may not want to.

DEEN, I believe is his own man. Who are you to say what he should do? This is comical to me at this point. Long live JSS

rap_still_sucks wrote:

journeygal wrote:

rap_still_sucks wrote:... If he is a true fan, he will accept it, and do it for the team if though he may not want to.

But, he doesn't need to

He doesn't need to? Are you high? Have you listened to Deen do this songs? Do you have Generations? Have you heard Jeff do these songs?

I thought we told the truth in this forum. This begins to feel like BT, only here everyone does for Soto what BT does for Augeri.

Lets get real. Other than Perry, nobody can do these songs justice like Deen. His has the magic. And I'm sorry, but Soto doesn't (for Journey) and neither does Chalfant.

This is your opinion, and you can say that here. But I disagree with you. Deen has already made his choice, and if, and this is a big IF, Neal wanted Deen out there to sing as lead singer, don't you think that would of already happened?

If you don't like JSS fronting the band, that is ok too. But there are alot of us who would love to see him continue fronting Journey, bringing his own spin to the hits. The hits will never sound exactly like the way you remember them because as we get older, our voices change, and lead singers have to roll with the changes. Just enjoy the fact that Journey is still out there playing to the fans.

rap_still_sucks wrote:I thought we told the truth in this forum. This begins to feel like BT, only here everyone does for Soto what BT does for Augeri.

Lets get real. Other than Perry, nobody can do these songs justice like Deen. His has the magic. And I'm sorry, but Soto doesn't (for Journey) and neither does Chalfant.

I tend to agree that Deen is a better Journey singer than anyone else at this point, but it's a moot argument because he just doesn't appear to want to front the band.

You're right, though, there is a bit of Soto ass-kissing around here...

It's not my need to hear the hits that makes me want Deen in there. I want new music to sound like Journey, I want the magic of the Journey sound to live is as long as it can, which can't be for always, I know.

I love Soto. Soul Sirkus, and Talisman is GREAT stuff, and I'm glad I discovered Jeff since he started hanging with Neal. But look, Jeff said himself that he is a Journey fan and wouldn't do anything to stop Journey (when speaking of SoulSirkus) and I believe him. They need that high tenor sound. It an essential feature to what defines Journey. Neal's soaring lead, high powerful voice, well crafted songs and musicianship. Anything else, call it what ever you want to, is not Journey except maybe in name. If Soul Sirkus or Talisman was my favorite, I wouldn't like Steve Perry, or Steve Augeri coming in there, because they are the wrong kind of singers for it!

If Deen really has those health problems, let him sing all the songs and get Hugo or someone to do the Perry dance. I know, your thinking, "this clown is off his rocker" but I'll tell you something. If Journey goes too far from the sound that people love, they will die. Without album sales, they need tour dollars, and without a good quality high tenor singing those songs, people will stop coming.

I don't want that for my band, and I know Jeff doesn't want that either. How about you?

rap_still_sucks wrote:

journeygal wrote:

rap_still_sucks wrote:... If he is a true fan, he will accept it, and do it for the team if though he may not want to.

But, he doesn't need to

He doesn't need to? Are you high? Have you listened to Deen do this songs? Do you have Generations? Have you heard Jeff do these songs?

I thought we told the truth in this forum. This begins to feel like BT, only here everyone does for Soto what BT does for Augeri.

Lets get real. Other than Perry, nobody can do these songs justice like Deen. His has the magic. And I'm sorry, but Soto doesn't (for Journey) and neither does Chalfant.

That's right, Deen doesn't need to come forward. He's also made it clear that he has no desire to. I've heard Deen sing, yes he's got a great voice. Yes, I have Generations and, no, I haven't heard Jeff sing any of the songs. Who do you think is lying? I'm entitled to my opinion, the same as you are. I support Jeff 100%.

...and no, I'm not high

Abitaman wrote:and Kevin Chalfant soedn't want

Too old.
The daily rigors of the road would toast his ass.

rap_still_sucks wrote:What's so hard for YOU to understand? Thousands of drummers can fill this gig, almost no singers can. He can beat the skins at home if he likes it so much. If he wants Journey to provide good paying jobs for him and everyone else, if he is a team player he will step up and do what it seems only he can.

If he is a true fan, he will accept it, and do it for the team if though he may not want to.

So Deen is not a "team player" if he doesn't front the band.

Here's how it is...
1 - The band doesn't want Deen to front the band.
2 - Deen doesn't want to front the band.
3 - Most of the fans don't want Deen to front the band. They want him as their drummer.

conversationpc wrote:

rap_still_sucks wrote:What's so hard for YOU to understand? Thousands of drummers can fill this gig, almost no singers can. He can beat the skins at home if he likes it so much. If he wants Journey to provide good paying jobs for him and everyone else, if he is a team player he will step up and do what it seems only he can.

If he is a true fan, he will accept it, and do it for the team if though he may not want to.

So Deen is not a "team player" if he doesn't front the band.

Here's how it is...
1 - The band doesn't want Deen to front the band.
2 - Deen doesn't want to front the band.
3 - Most of the fans don't want Deen to front the band. They want him as their drummer.

News flash: MOST fans don't know who the hell the Journey drummer is, and even fewer could tell the difference. Drummers don't make or break bands. Singers do.

rap_still_sucks wrote:News flash: MOST fans don't know who the hell the Journey drummer is, and even fewer could tell the difference. Drummers don't make or break bands. Singers do.

Two words: Neil Peart

Ya, I thought he was talking about Deano for a minute!

Clasicrockldy wrote:It is spelled DEEN! Not Dean !

conversationpc wrote:

rap_still_sucks wrote:News flash: MOST fans don't know who the hell the Journey drummer is, and even fewer could tell the difference. Drummers don't make or break bands. Singers do.

Two words: Neil Peart

I already read your previous Peart comments in another thread with disinterest. Sure, he is a great drummer. So is Steve Smith. Do people still lament that he is not in the band? Smith added magic to Journey songs. Dean plays the parts just fine. As good as Deen is on drums, he hasn't been as creative about what he gives the new music in the drums department. Its just drums. Maybe you would go to a concert to listen to somebody beat on the skins for hours, but most don't care about drums that much. If Deen left the band, he would be missed for the vocal touches he has added lately, not the drumming. Plenty could fill his shoes behind the skins. so what

rap_still_sucks wrote:
I already read your previous Peart comments in another thread with disinterest. Sure, he is a great drummer. So is Steve Smith. Do people still lament that he is not in the band? Smith added magic to Journey songs. Dean plays the parts just fine. As good as Deen is on drums, he hasn't been as creative about what he gives the new music in the drums department. Its just drums. Maybe you would go to a concert to listen to somebody beat on the skins for hours, but most don't care about drums that much. If Deen left the band, he would be missed for the vocal touches he has added lately, not the drumming. Plenty could fill his shoes behind the skins. so what

No, I don't lamentthat Steve Smith isn't in Journey anymore. Steve S went to do what he wanted to do, which is playing music that he likes to do. Everyone at some point moves on, and Steve S did just that.

rap_still_sucks wrote:If Deen left the band, he would be missed for the vocal touches he has added lately, not the drumming. Plenty could fill his shoes behind the skins. so what

I doubt it would be that easy. Deen has made himself a favorite among the fans because of his personality and sense of humor, not just because of his drumming and vocals. I think he would be sorely missed by the fans.

conversationpc wrote:

rap_still_sucks wrote:If Deen left the band, he would be missed for the vocal touches he has added lately, not the drumming. Plenty could fill his shoes behind the skins. so what

I doubt it would be that easy. Deen has made himself a favorite among the fans because of his personality and sense of humor, not just because of his drumming and vocals. I think he would be sorely missed by the fans.

I totally agree. If Deen were to ever leave the band it would hurt a lot of long-time fans. You gotta figure, Deen's been an official member of Journey since 1998. If you count all the years in between albums/tours/solo projects back in the 80s, Deen has thoeretically spent just as much time 'playing' in Journey that Smitty did...

You guys are just being dense. If Steve Perry came back to Journey, they could put a monkey at the skins and pay him in bananas and shows would sell out. No matter how good a drummer you are, people don't care that much.

Journey is a brand, and it is associated with a certain style and sound. If you don't think so, how many of you would follow the band if they hired Toby Keith and took it in a country direction ( so long Neal, Deen, Ross, and JC go along with it)? According to you it doesn't matter what singer and we should just support the band, a? And don't say Toby Keith can't sing! But damn it, he can't sing in Journey, wake the fu@* up!

If you bought coca-cola because that's what your craving, then suddenly discover it tastes like orange Fanta, is it ok with you so long as its called coke?

Are you sure this isn't fucking BT?

Where the hell is Deano? Some of you are freaking me out.

rap_still_sucks wrote:You guys are just being dense. If Steve Perry came back to Journey, they could put a monkey at the skins and pay him in bananas and shows would sell out. No matter how good a drummer you are, people don't care that much.

True, unless the drummer IS the singer he isn't usually widely known.

No, this isn't BT. People here will have differences of opinion and preferences. Tryng to shove your opinion or views down people's throats isn't going to get what you want. Just agree to disagree, that usually works here.

rap_still_sucks wrote:You guys are just being dense. If Steve Perry came back to Journey, they could put a monkey at the skins and pay him in bananas and shows would sell out. No matter how good a drummer you are, people don't care that much.

Something tells me Steve Perry would not be inclined to play with a monkey. Perry was a drummer himself. Don't be so quick to discredit the beat. I take it you are not pleased with a JSS fronted Journey. Did you like Steve Augeri?