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One of the reasons SP was able to get audiences in an uproar is the way he knew how to control the crowd; Perry was a GREAT showman. It didn't hurt that his voice was incredible. And that is the same trait that JSS has that Steve A never has had - JSS KNOWS how to Command & Control an audience and that is why he would be the perfect fit for Journey in the long run. Unless you were a 30-50 something female acting like a horny teenager, Steve A never really made a connection to the audience, he never just pulled you in. SP did it all the time, girls and boys, old and young. JSS has that same power. His voice, his stage presence, his authority of the stage... If the band gives him the reigns he is gonna carry this band on in grand fashion! I liked Augeri when he took over in 98 but, after remembering what we had and now seeing what we 'could' have... It's time for some new blood and JSS is the man!

Carlitto H@kk wrote:Unless you were a 30-50 something female acting like a horny teenager, Steve A never really made a connection to the audience, he never just pulled you in.

The 2nd Journey show I ever attended was the '99 tour and I remember thinking that Augeri had the crowd eating out of his hand. I remember thinking that he seemed kinda timid the first time in '98 but there was a huge difference the 2nd time around. I didn't really pay much attention to the crowd in the shows I saw after that, so I can't comment on those.

I guess it's all subjective, because I liked Augeri onstage.

A Fire Inside wrote:I guess it's all subjective, because I liked Augeri onstage.

You're right, it is. I'm only giving "My" opinion. I love the albums Augeri has done w/ Journey but Live, he just bored me to be honest.

That's becuase Augeri IS boring - and somewhat of a sissy onstage. Have you seen him dance? He dances like a woman trapped in a man's body.

But, that is just MY opinion, so take it for what it's worth.






And no, Perry couldn't dance for squat, but at least he didn't wiggle like a girl onstage - he just dressed like one LOL.

knox wrote:That's becuase Augeri IS boring - and somewhat of a sissy onstage. Have you seen him dance? He dances like a woman trapped in a man's body.

But, that is just MY opinion, so take it for what it's worth.






And no, Perry couldn't dance for squat, but at least he didn't wiggle like a girl onstage - he just dressed like one LOL.

Come on, you tellin' me you didn't like "The Tails"??? And I don't care how GAY it looked, Perry's "Mic-Cord" Shuffle is classic!!! That was the best part of the WYLAW video in 96; seeing Perry do that one more time while Neal shredded!

knox wrote:That's becuase Augeri IS boring - and somewhat of a sissy onstage. Have you seen him dance? He dances like a woman trapped in a man's body.

But, that is just MY opinion, so take it for what it's worth.

And no, Perry couldn't dance for squat, but at least he didn't wiggle like a girl onstage - he just dressed like one LOL.

Perry didn't bowl anyone over with his masculinity, either.

Carlitto H@kk wrote:One of the reasons SP was able to get audiences in an uproar is the way he knew how to control the crowd; Perry was a GREAT showman. It didn't hurt that his voice was incredible. And that is the same trait that JSS has that Steve A never has had - JSS KNOWS how to Command & Control an audience and that is why he would be the perfect fit for Journey in the long run. Unless you were a 30-50 something female acting like a horny teenager, Steve A never really made a connection to the audience, he never just pulled you in. SP did it all the time, girls and boys, old and young. JSS has that same power. His voice, his stage presence, his authority of the stage... If the band gives him the reigns he is gonna carry this band on in grand fashion! I liked Augeri when he took over in 98 but, after remembering what we had and now seeing what we 'could' have... It's time for some new blood and JSS is the man!

I totally agree. Some people would have to get used to a bit of a different Journey sound though. But between Deen and JSS, best of both worlds! LOL sorry, but being a 30-50 something female, I definately see the (Perry) sound and passion in Deen and the raw, sexy (Perry) energy in JSS.

Good point, but I think if Augeri had come out on stage acting like he owned the place, it would have been obnoxious. Augeri won me over by being respectful and showing humility and grace in the giant shoes he had stepped into. I do think that a couple of years into it he could have become a better, more powerful front man though.

JSS is in a much easier situation than Augeri was. JSS is merely replacing a singer. Augeri replaced a legend.

strungout wrote:LOL sorry, but being a 30-50 something female, I definately see the (Perry) sound and passion in Deen and the raw, sexy (Perry) energy in JSS.

I don't think I meant you in that line... I love going to BT but all the "Love and Prayer" threads and "Dreams of the Red Leather Pants" are starting to make me sick

No... I LOVED the black tails with the jeans and leopard shirt - Perry in that outfit is the equivalent of Superman!

I am talking about the black stretch pants and blouse tied at the stomach. He did look like a girl in that.

However, from what I have heard and observed, he didn't take crap from anybody. Did you see Behind The Music? Perry was wanting to put a butt - kicking on whoever it was that threw the bottle at Neal. He wasn't too worried that the guy was probably bigger than he was.

I would take Perry in a scrap against Augeri anyday - even at his old age .

Barb wrote:JSS is in a much easier situation than Augeri was. JSS is merely replacing a singer. Augeri replaced a legend.

Very well stated.

Carlitto H@kk wrote:

strungout wrote:LOL sorry, but being a 30-50 something female, I definately see the (Perry) sound and passion in Deen and the raw, sexy (Perry) energy in JSS.

I don't think I meant you in that line... I love going to BT but all the "Love and Prayer" threads and "Dreams of the Red Leather Pants" are starting to make me sick

LOL, I hear ya. And I know you didn't mean me cuz I'm a huge Perry fan. I don't mind Augueri, just never did anything for me.

strungout wrote:

Carlitto H@kk wrote:

strungout wrote:LOL sorry, but being a 30-50 something female, I definately see the (Perry) sound and passion in Deen and the raw, sexy (Perry) energy in JSS.

I don't think I meant you in that line... I love going to BT but all the "Love and Prayer" threads and "Dreams of the Red Leather Pants" are starting to make me sick

LOL, I hear ya. And I know you didn't mean me cuz I'm a huge Perry fan. I don't mind Augueri, just never did anything for me.

I'll just repeat myself from my original post: "I liked Augeri when he took over in 98 but, after remembering what we had (Perry) and now seeing what we 'could' have... It's time for some new blood and JSS is the man!"

knox wrote:No... I LOVED the black tails with the jeans and leopard shirt - Perry in that outfit is the equivalent of Superman!

I am talking about the black stretch pants and blouse tied at the stomach. He did look like a girl in that.

However, from what I have heard and observed, he didn't take crap from anybody. Did you see Behind The Music? Perry was wanting to put a butt - kicking on whoever it was that threw the bottle at Neal. He wasn't too worried that the guy was probably bigger than he was.

I would take Perry in a scrap against Augeri anyday - even at his old age .

Red, black or blue tails, they all worked for me! And yes he definately wasn't at his most masculine looking in the red blouse and black spandex (LOL, even he has joked about that outfit, his diaphonous blouse). But then again it was the late 70s, alot of the rockstars dressed like that. Saying that though, think I would take the spandex over the rap jeans they are wearing that are 12 sizes to big, half way down their ass and the crotch sitting down around their knees.......ya now thats attractive.

Every time I see him in that outfit (red blouse & black spandex pants) I hear Rod Stuarts song "Do you think I'm sexy come on sugar tell me so" Oh no, now I have that damn tune in my mind! Over all Steve is a handsome man he can get away with anything he chooses to wear. Loved it all!

I know I wasn't the only one...
Mid-80s, morning of the prom, brought that tux rental home and the first thing I did was throw on that coat with some jeans and a t-shirt and proceeded to dnace around the room like a fool w/ Journey blairing outa my stereo!!!

Augeri had more of a gracious approach, he didn't have that rock star persona on stage

Carlitto H@kk wrote:I know I wasn't the only one...
Mid-80s, morning of the prom, brought that tux rental home and the first thing I did was throw on that coat with some jeans and a t-shirt and proceeded to dnace around the room like a fool w/ Journey blairing outa my stereo!!!

I think we ALL did that...

"Those summer nights are calling...."

The two are very different. Steve invited you in, JSS tells you to get in and shut the damn door!

JSS is an alpha male.....Dude has balls, and confidence.

Augeri never had the masculinity.......way to feminine.

Good riddens Augeri.

Oh, before I forget....

Watched that fiasco, called the Beacon...Augeri is pounding his chest, trying to fool the audience of his emotional delivery.....Uh, dude, stop already.

I think they're both good on stage for different reasons.

When you want the aggressive rock style, Jeff's yer man... and when you want the softer, less macho side then Augeri's the guy for that.

It works both ways.

jrnyman28 wrote:The two are very different. Steve invited you in, JSS tells you to get in and shut the damn door!

Too true, and in a mere mortal that is a wonderful trait. But I don't necessarily want to respect my frontman, I either want him rocking my f***ing socks off or melting my heart. Perry had both! And I think JSS is closer to that also.

I thought Augeri had finally hit his stride during the "Under the Radar" tour.
The guy owned the stage.
Every member of the audience was transfixed.
As Augeri once said "The communication between performer and audience is the difference between an average show and a spiritual experience."

Every tour after that, however, I found his aplomb to be severely lacking.
Did his confidance wan as his voice got shredded more and more?

Rockn'deano wrote:Oh, before I forget....

Watched that fiasco, called the Beacon...Augeri is pounding his chest, trying to fool the audience of his emotional delivery.....Uh, dude, stop already.

listen to you own advice, stop already

Perhaps people forget that they themselves are often deceiving of other people. More often than not, they feel they are justified in creating and perpetuating the deception.

I do not profess to know the details of Journey's decisions, nor do I think my opinion will or should have any sway over anyone here. However I am reasonably certain that since it was/is a band decision as to who performs, how often they perform, then ALL involved share equal blame. To say that a singer who lips and doesn't say no is naive. Whether or not Dean or anyone else has inside info is actually irrelevant. People here were not involved in how the decision came to pass.

I would caution anyone here that unless you have never told a lie, acted inappropriately (subject to your own interpretation of just what constitutes inappropriate), or acted in your own best interest to the potential detriment of someone else...perhaps it is time to leave the mudslinging out of it. Certainly there are people here who have their own skeletons in closets they would not wish opened.

By all means....carry on as you were.

Smart people

Pain in the ass reading informative and well written posts...I prefer simple, perverted posts

sadie65 wrote:However I am reasonably certain that since it was/is a band decision as to who performs, how often they perform, then ALL involved share equal blame. To say that a singer who lips and doesn't say no is naive...

This part of the post, I totally agree with. This has probably totally ruined the guy. The rest of Journey can pretty much walk away blameless, but if they were cool guys, they'd stand up and say "hey, we're as much to blame" because they were. Probably more so than Augeri. Imagine what kind of pressure that'd be. Fu**!
I HIGHLY doubt it was Augeri's idea. WHY would a guy WANT to do that knowing that he could possibly be found out?Say what you want. "He sucks. He's a jerk", or whatever. He's a great singer and a decent guy who went through a shitty vocal period, and (WITH THE BAND INVOLVED FROM DAY ONE) probably lip synched some shows, and now the guy is probably disgraced and ruined as far as the music biz. I have no problems with the guy and feel pretty sorry for him. I can't imagine how the guy's handling it.

Those that hated the "perry clone" thing now can move on with Soto and feel no guilt. Neal gets to rock more. The Journey signature sound goes out the window though. Time will tell if that's a step ahead or not.

NealIsGod wrote:

knox wrote:That's becuase Augeri IS boring - and somewhat of a sissy onstage. Have you seen him dance? He dances like a woman trapped in a man's body.

But, that is just MY opinion, so take it for what it's worth.

And no, Perry couldn't dance for squat, but at least he didn't wiggle like a girl onstage - he just dressed like one LOL.

Perry didn't bowl anyone over with his masculinity, either.

He did when Neal got hit in the head with a bottle. That pussy Augeri would've started a prayer circle.