MR

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:27 am**

...Could you explain to me what Augeri's appeal was??? Other than being a "nice" guy and and taking the heat well for not being Perry?? I saw him and the band in the very beginning of his joining at a very small venue in Atlanta...when he had a voice to sing, and I was right in front of him. I thought he did a decent job of it at the time, but just could not take the nasal sound of his voice. Look's wise, he didn't appeal to me either! Need I mention that irritating "wiggle"?? After that, I bought the CD's when they came out, listened to them a couple of time's...didn't like his sound. I lost interest in Journey after that, just listened to the old stuff. I thought I would check them out again this year just to go to a concert. I was'nt aware of the "tape" issue's or voice problem's at the time, so I expected to see SA singing. Right before my concert I learned he was gone and JSS would be singing. Well I gave JSS a bad review too, at the start, but there was an appeal to him that got me interested again and what has me more interested now, as his appeal has strengthened, to me. I am sure there are many other's who lost interest when Augeri was in the band, but are now gaining a new found interest in the band again, to see what happen's next.(MO)

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:35 am**

For me it was "Holy Shit, Journey's back!!! And this guys kinda-sorta sounds like Perry! Holy crap, a new album called Arrival! Wow, this isn't near as boring as TBF; as a matter of fact, this is pretty damn good..."

Then I saw him live 3 times, pre-2006, and lost a little more interest each time.
Now, if you ask all the AugeriHeads at BT, you're gonna hear all the lame crap; He's so sexy and classy and nice and sweet and tender and ,OH, those leather pants and , Oh My, look at that Wiggle (kind of a tired gay man's impersonation of Shakira, IYAM)... I really don't get it either...

He was ok at the time but in no way worthy of the idol-worship he gets at BT, but to each their own I guess.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:05 am**

I like Augeri. I haven't heard a bad thing about him except from Deano. You other whiners don't count, since you're just on the bandwagon.

It's not a "wiggle" either, from what I've seen I'd call it dancing, and I also don't see how it's more "irritating" than any of the spinning stuff Steve Perry ever did.

I thought Augeri always looked suave and acted like a gentleman. He was a sweet guy and yes, he could sing (arguably at some points) well. He was such a change from SP's "diva" attitude. I personally would rather see a nice guy up there who wants to meet the fans than his predecessor who always wanted to be in his trailer. Some of you like to see a grungy metal singer, I like to see a smooth crooner. Different strokes.

Augeri gets a lot of bullshit here. People are so quick to forget how much they liked him a year ago. :roll:

He put about 8 pretty good years into Journey. I appreciate that and I hate the way things have turned out.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:11 am**

A Fire Inside wrote:I like Augeri. I haven't heard a bad thing about him except from Deano. You other whiners don't count, since you're just on the bandwagon.

I've been both parts supportive and critical since I've been here.
Go look it up.
Being a free thinking individual does not constitute being "on the bandwagon".

Augeri gets a lot of bullshit here. People are so quick to forget how much they liked him a year ago. He put about 8 pretty good years into Journey. I appreciate that and I hate the way things have turned out.

Ugh. You sound like a pre-pubescent girl fawning over Justin Timberlake.
Go change your sanitary pad, and leave the real men to talk about real rock music.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:12 am**

Sorry, I did not like him a year ago or 8 year's ago! Perry has nothing to do with this topic!! Look at the title!! I never cared for Augeri. Like I said it's MO! Give me JSS over SA anyday!!

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:14 am**

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
A Fire Inside wrote:I like Augeri. I haven't heard a bad thing about him except from Deano. You other whiners don't count, since you're just on the bandwagon.

I've been both parts supportive and critical since I've been here.
Go look it up.
Being a free thinking individual does not constitute being "on the bandwagon".

Augeri gets a lot of bullshit here. People are so quick to forget how much they liked him a year ago. He put about 8 pretty good years into Journey. I appreciate that and I hate the way things have turned out.

Ugh. You sound like a pre-pubescent girl fawning over Justin Timberlake.
Go change your sanitary pad, and leave the real men to talk about real rock music.

Sorry "Fire" Sympathies, but TNC is basing his anger against SA on the facts, and I have to agree with him, he knows the deal, trust me.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:17 am**

The_Noble_Cause wrote:I've been both parts supportive and critical since I've been here.
Go look it up.
Being a free thinking individual does not constitute being "on the bandwagon".

Okay, so Dean and TNC. Excuse me for omitting you.

Ugh. You sound like a pre-pubescent girl fawning over Justin Timberlake.
Go change your sanitary pad, and leave the real men to talk about real rock music.

Right. You hate women, they're your main insult, we get it.

So I like Augeri, so what? Some people like Perry, so what? I know some want Journey to be more "rock" now, but they have not made their living being "rock". Open Arms is their biggest hit! Someone like Augeri does that stuff well IMO.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:18 am**

thevoicelover wrote:Sorry, I did not like him a year ago or 8 year's ago! Perry has nothing to do with this topic!! Look at the title!! I never cared for Augeri. Like I said it's MO! Give me JSS over SA anyday!!

Which "voicelover" are you anyway? :roll:

The Augeri bashing is just so fucking tiresome.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:21 am**

A Fire Inside wrote:
thevoicelover wrote:Sorry, I did not like him a year ago or 8 year's ago! Perry has nothing to do with this topic!! Look at the title!! I never cared for Augeri. Like I said it's MO! Give me JSS over SA anyday!!

Which "voicelover" are you anyway?

The Augeri bashing is just so fucking tiresome.

"VoiceLover" mean's I love exceptional voice's and Augeri didn't have one to me!! (or his self if you wanna go there!) :evil:

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:23 am**

neilmaclookalike wrote:Sorry "Fire" Sympathies, but TNC is basing his anger against SA on the facts, and I have to agree with him, he knows the deal, trust me.

Uh, okay, thanks, I know the "facts".

I do think Tapegate happened to a certain extent, and I blame the band as a whole... NONE of them are getting my business from now on. I'm not excited about the lineup changes and it's not an excuse for their shady practices.

Being "talented" doesn't give them an excuse either.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:24 am**

A Fire Inside wrote:
neilmaclookalike wrote:Sorry "Fire" Sympathies, but TNC is basing his anger against SA on the facts, and I have to agree with him, he knows the deal, trust me.

Uh, okay, thanks, I know the "facts".

I do think Tapegate happened to a certain extent, and I blame the band as a whole... NONE of them are getting my business from now on. I'm not excited about the lineup changes and it's not an excuse for their shady practices.

Being "talented" doesn't give them an excuse either.

yeah I agree on your points here, all blamed, no blameless

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:24 am**

thevoicelover wrote:"VoiceLover" mean's I love exceptional voice's and Augeri didn't have one to me!! (or his self if you wanna go there!)

Go jack off to Perry/JSS then and stop wasting your time on Augeri. :evil:

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:25 am**

A Fire Inside wrote:It's not a "wiggle" either, from what I've seen I'd call it dancing, and I also don't see how it's more "irritating" than any of the spinning stuff Steve Perry ever did.

Perry in his tails doing the "Mic-Cord Shuffle" was cool, the little wiggle SCREAMED sissy-boy.

A Fire Inside wrote: Some of you like to see a grungy metal singer, I like to see a smooth crooner. Different strokes.

If you think JSS is just a grungy metal singer, you need to do your homework.

A Fire Inside wrote:Augeri gets a lot of bullshit here. People are so quick to forget how much they liked him a year ago. He put about 8 pretty good years into Journey. I appreciate that and I hate the way things have turned out.

Exactly, 8 'pretty good years' but it wasn't spectacular or that exciting... He really had nothing original to offer... unless you really dug his wiggle.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:28 am**

A Fire Inside wrote:Right. You hate women, they're your main insult, we get it.

LOL. What a cheap tactic. Playing the mysoginistic card.
Ok, I'm game.
I think you're a rascist and you hate black people
That's just as arbitrary and unfounded as your attacks on me.

A Fire Inside wrote:So I like Augeri, so what?

Many people like Augeri. I like aspects of Steve Augeri, as well.
What I don't like is whiny-ass cry baby bitches.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:28 am**

Carlitto H@kk wrote:
A Fire Inside wrote:It's not a "wiggle" either, from what I've seen I'd call it dancing, and I also don't see how it's more "irritating" than any of the spinning stuff Steve Perry ever did.

Perry in his tails doing the "Mic-Cord Shuffle" was cool, the little wiggle SCREAMED sissy-boy.

A Fire Inside wrote: Some of you like to see a grungy metal singer, I like to see a smooth crooner. Different strokes.

If you think JSS is just a grungy metal singer, you need to do your homework.

A Fire Inside wrote:Augeri gets a lot of bullshit here. People are so quick to forget how much they liked him a year ago. He put about 8 pretty good years into Journey. I appreciate that and I hate the way things have turned out.

Haha Carlitto, you have a really unhealthy obsession with always mentioning Augeri's wiggle !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Exactly, 8 'pretty good years' but it wasn't spectacular or that exciting... He really had nothing original to offer... unless you really dug his wiggle.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:31 am**

A Fire Inside wrote:
thevoicelover wrote:"VoiceLover" mean's I love exceptional voice's and Augeri didn't have one to me!! (or his self if you wanna go there!)

Go jack off to Perry/JSS then and stop wasting your time on Augeri.

Being that I am a female it would not be possible as you so elegantly put it "jack off". This the first time I have ever made a statement about SA at all, anytime, anywhere, but you obviously must have eaten to much corn and having shit trouble's today...so I forgive you for your BT commentary.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:32 am**

Carlitto H@kk wrote:Perry in his tails doing the "Mic-Cord Shuffle" was cool, the little wiggle SCREAMED sissy-boy.

LOL that is the biggest pile of SHIT I have seen since Dean's avatar.

Steve Perry wearing a leopard print shirt and tux tails, sliding around onstage was in no way COOL. Maybe Augeri's clap-dance was not cool either, fine, but Perry was NOT COOL. Show them to anyone unacquainted with Journey and I bet they would pick Augeri's moves.

If you think JSS is just a grungy metal singer, you need to do your homework.

Er, he wears torn jeans and wifebeaters and sings for metal bands, where am I wrong?

Exactly, 8 'pretty good years' but it wasn't spectacular or that exciting... He really had nothing original to offer... unless you really dug his wiggle.

He wasn't really hired to offer anything original, he was hired to replace Steve Perry. :roll:

And until JSS offers something original besides his voice, he hasn't either...

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:33 am**

thevoicelover wrote:...Could you explain to me what Augeri's appeal was??? Other than being a "nice" guy and and taking the heat well for not being Perry??

He was great with the fans and though nobody could surpass Perry's vocal prowess, Augeri made sure to give it his all.
Personally, that was his appeal to me.
I also thought "Higher Place" was a great tune and convinced me to pick up "Arrival".

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:33 am**

I liked Augeri because I was so sick of Journey being dormant. I thought the understated stage presence allowed Neal to take center stage more, and that is always a good thing. He was a much better vocalist than many give him credit for. The fact that he was able to pull it off for so long in front of a very critical fan base was pretty impressive.

The only thing I fault him and the band for is how things ended. His tenure though, allowed me to see the band live again and hear new Journey music. To Be Alive Again, Signs of Life, and Higher Place are a couple of my all time favorite JRNY songs. Even though, I don't care for Trial By Fire, without Augeri those songs would never have been performed live.

Time to move on with JSS though, but the question was asked and that's my answer.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:34 am**

arrivalrules wrote:I liked Augeri because I was so sick of Journey being dormant. I thought the understated stage presence allowed Neal to take center stage more, and that is always a good thing. He was a much better vocalist than many give him credit for. The fact that he was able to pull it off for so long in front of a very critical fan base was pretty impressive.

The only thing I fault him and the band for is how things ended. His tenure though, allowed me to see the band live again and hear new Journey music. To Be Alive Again, Signs of Life, and Higher Place are a couple of my all time favorite JRNY songs. Even though, I don't care for Trial By Fire, without Augeri those songs would never have been performed live.

Time to move on with JSS though, but the question was asked and that's my answer.

said with aplomb my friend, nuff said really

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:34 am**

The_Noble_Cause wrote:LOL. What a cheap tactic. Playing the mysoginistic card.
Ok, I'm game.
I think you're a rascist and you hate black people
That's just as arbitrary and unfounded as your attacks on me.

Maybe if I routinely called people the N-word and told them to go eat some fried chicken instead of talk Journey, that would be remotely similar.

Many people like Augeri. I like aspects of Steve Augeri, as well.
What I don't like is whiny-ass cry baby bitches.

Fuck you, I didn't whine.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:36 am**

thevoicelover wrote:Being that I am a female it would not be possible as you so elegantly put it "jack off". This the first time I have ever made a statement about SA at all, anytime, anywhere, but you obviously must have eaten to much corn and having shit trouble's today...so I forgive you for your BT commentary.

LMAO retard.

What is the proper term for "female masturbation", please?

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:36 am**

A Fire Inside wrote:Er, he wears torn jeans and wifebeaters and sings for metal bands, where am I wrong?

Saying JSS is a grundge singer is as ignorant as labeling Augeri a former Journey cover band singer (as many have incorrectly done).
Do some research.

And until JSS offers something original besides his voice, he hasn't either...

And when he does, will u promise to shut ur hole.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:38 am**

A Fire Inside wrote:
Carlitto H@kk wrote:Perry in his tails doing the "Mic-Cord Shuffle" was cool, the little wiggle SCREAMED sissy-boy.

LOL that is the biggest pile of SHIT I have seen since Dean's avatar.

Steve Perry wearing a leopard print shirt and tux tails, sliding around onstage was in no way COOL. Maybe Augeri's clap-dance was not cool either, fine, but Perry was NOT COOL. Show them to anyone unacquainted with Journey and I bet they would pick Augeri's moves.

If you think JSS is just a grungy metal singer, you need to do your homework.

Er, he wears torn jeans and wifebeaters and sings for metal bands, where am I wrong?

Exactly, 8 'pretty good years' but it wasn't spectacular or that exciting... He really had nothing original to offer... unless you really dug his wiggle.

He wasn't really hired to offer anything original, he was hired to replace Steve Perry. And until JSS offers something original besides his voice, he hasn't either...

Perry was SUPERMAN in the outfit you just dissed, trust me, you are out of your mind. And don't you think you got a bit of "Stereotyping" going on with JSS and his clothes??? Like I said, DO YOUR HOMEWORK! Apparently you have no idea of Jeff's range. Jeff could come out on stage in a flippin' pink tu-tu with bright purple polka-dots and still blow the doors off of anything Augeri and half the other lead singers out there are trying to do.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:39 am**

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
And until JSS offers something original besides his voice, he hasn't either...

And when he does, will u promise to shut ur hole.

Yep.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:39 am**

*never mind*

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:40 am**

A Fire Inside wrote:
thevoicelover wrote:Being that I am a female it would not be possible as you so elegantly put it "jack off". This the first time I have ever made a statement about SA at all, anytime, anywhere, but you obviously must have eaten to much corn and having shit trouble's today...so I forgive you for your BT commentary.

LMAO retard.

What is the proper term for "female masturbation", please?

GO FUCK YOURSELF, I believe, so why don't you??!!!! :lol:

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:41 am**

A Fire Inside wrote:Maybe if I routinely called people the N-word and told them to go eat some fried chicken instead of talk Journey, that would be remotely similar.

As if my posts are strewn with nothing but the C-word and directives telling women to march right back into the kitchen?

Fuck you, I didn't whine.

Yes, in fact that's all you've been doing since Augeri was handed his pink slip.
Time to move on, sissy boy!

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:41 am**

Carlitto H@kk wrote:Perry was SUPERMAN in the outfit you just dissed, trust me, you are out of your mind.

I fucking loved EVERYTHING Perry wore in the 70s and 80s (excluding ROR). But I'm not so delusional that I think it was cool. The man was a disaster area in the fashion/moves department.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:42 am**

thevoicelover wrote:GO FUCK YOURSELF, I believe, so why don't you??!!!!

Can't, I'm at work.

MR

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