Steve Augeri's vocals. Great, Good, Medicore, Bad - ?

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Steve Augeri's vocals.

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Steve Augeri's vocals. Great, Good, Medicore, Bad - ?

Postby Vladan » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:56 pm

What do you think. I feel here I can post a thread like this and get some real feeback.

I feel on the albums, he is a good singer - not great. I feel on the live material he is rather medicore to be honest!. That is my feelings. At first I thought JSS is a heavy metal vocalist and alittle rough for Journey, but after hearing some of the tracks, I think he is a good for the band now, I feel if they record a new album with JSS - it could be good for them! what have they got to lose? they are not getting any younger. I think Journey with JSS is a more complete band, as in they now have a singer that is solid and you get a sense of security that his voice will not break or crack, he's simply steller and solid. I always felt uneasy watching Steve Augeri, you know - can he do it, can he hit the notes, and alot of the time he doesn't on the 2001 DVD, he goes for the easy way out and it sounds either karaoke or just piss weak.


I wonder why they chose Augeri in the first place, I mean he is a good vocalist but not super, you know - not like a Steve Perry or an Elton John.
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Postby Barb » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:57 pm

He had a good voice, but was not consistent... and then well, you know the rest.
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Postby AR » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:58 pm

Good. No complaints until recently.
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Postby Liam » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:09 pm

Good up until something surfaced.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:09 pm

Great on studio albums.
Inconsistant and occassionally warbly in concert.
Could be relied on nightly to sufficiently cover several songs (Lights, Wheel, Open, Stone, a few others).
His renditions of other songs (even some of his very own) were an out an out bastardization (Be Good to Yourself, Higher Place, etc.)

Great with the fans and a good showman, but that is for another discussion entiriely.
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Postby AR » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:12 pm

Great on studio albums.
Inconsistant and occassionally warbly in concert.
Could be relied on nightly to sufficiently cover several songs (Lights, Wheel, Open, Stone, a few others).
His renditions of other songs (even some of his very own) were an out an out bastardization (Be Good to Yourself, Higher Place, etc.)

Great with the fans and a good showman, but that is for another discussion entiriely.



Very fair assessment.
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Re: Steve Augeri's vocals. Great, Good, Medicore, Bad - ?

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:13 pm

Vladan wrote:I always felt uneasy watching Steve Augeri, you know - can he do it, can he hit the notes, and alot of the time he doesn't on the 2001 DVD, he goes for the easy way out and it sounds either karaoke or just piss weak.


On the dvd, he does this wierd almost yodeling type sound when he gradually comes down from high notes.
I think he does it at the end of "Lights", for example.
Anyways, I don't think 2001 is a fair representation of Steve largely because Kevin Shirly pro-tooled the holy living shit out of it.
His rendition of "Ask the Lonely" absolutely kills on the Vegas dvd, but live I never even heard him once approach that kind of quality.
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Postby ArnelRox » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:17 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:I don't think 2001 is a fair representation of Steve largely because Kevin Shirly pro-tooled the holy living shit out of it.
His rendition of "Ask the Lonely" absolutely kills on the Vegas dvd, but live I never even heard him once approach that kind of quality.


Could u or someone else explain a little about ProTools & what u can do w/it please? I'd like to understand more. Or perhaps point out a web site that explains it. I was thinking the same thing. He never quite got as good as he sounded on the DVD when I saw him live. I was wondering how that was accomplished.
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Postby AR » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:17 pm

On the dvd, he does this wierd almost yodeling type sound when he gradually comes down from high notes.
I think he does it at the end of "Lights", for example.
Anyways, I don't think 2001 is a fair representation of Steve largely because Kevin Shirly pro-tooled the holy living shit out of it.
His rendition of "Ask the Lonely" absolutely kills on the Vegas dvd, but live I never even heard him once approach that kind of quality.


As most DVD's/CD's live are altered by so many bands. But you are correct.

I have so many Augeri live shows that it is crazy. Overall, he was pretty damn good live. Certainly had his faults, but who doesn't? The criticisms posted here are mostly valid though. I liked him overall for the most part.
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Postby jrnyjetster » Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:18 pm

Most of us who saw Augeri on some of his first shows with Journey in '98, can not deny that you were very impressed with the guy...as a matter of fact I was amazed at how well he pulled off those challenging Steve Perry vocals. Steve Augeri has done a very commendable job filling some very big shoes. Sadly, 7 years of relentless touring have taken it's toll on Steve's chords. I truly hope Steve Augeri can return to the stage with Journey, soon!
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Postby Milos » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:58 pm

jrnyjetster wrote:Most of us that saw Augeri on some of his first shows with Journey in '98, can not deny that you were very impressed with the guy...as a matter of fact I was amazed at how well he pulled off those challenging Steve Perry vocals. Steve Augeri has done a very commendable job filling some very big shoes. Sadly, 7 years of relentless touring have taken it's toll on Steve's chords. I truly hope Steve Augeri can return to the stage with Journey, soon!


I had that same experience. It was amazing. If you closed your eyes you would swear that Steve Perry was still up there singing. That was in 1998 and it was the best that I've ever heard Augeri sound. I saw him several more times after that and he was still very impressive, but not as note perfect or as magical as that first performance. :D
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Re: Steve Augeri's vocals. Great, Good, Medicore, Bad - ?

Postby bionic » Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:08 pm

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The_Noble_Cause wrote:I don't think 2001 is a fair representation of Steve largely because Kevin Shirly pro-tooled the holy living shit out of it.
His rendition of "Ask the Lonely" absolutely kills on the Vegas dvd, but live I never even heard him once approach that kind of quality.


Could u or someone else explain a little about ProTools & what u can do w/it please? I'd like to understand more. Or perhaps point out a web site that explains it. I was thinking the same thing. He never quite got as good as he sounded on the DVD when I saw him live. I was wondering how that was accomplished.


The first time i heard of pro tools was for Joe Elliot on Hysteria,they put his voice through a system that alters your key if it goes off.Armaggeddon it when Joe sings high 'Are You Getting It' at the end is pro tools.Anything can be touched up if a note is out,you can use this on guitar as well.
Must admit i was not aware that the 2001 dvd was pro tooled,then out of the 4 times i have seen Augeri it would seem he only sang live once and that was at the Oakland benefit gig last Feb 05.So it is hard to judge things regarding his vocals :? I always thought he did a good job in the band but he was 38 when he joined way to old to compete with Perry's vocals,at that age you voice is changing.Thats why i was always stunned at how he could sing the way he did at 48!!!....now i know why :?
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Postby AR » Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:13 pm

The first time i heard of pro tools was for Joe Elliot on Hysteria,they put his voice through a system that alters your key if it goes off.Armaggeddon it when Joe sings high 'Are You Getting It' at the end is pro tools.Anything can be touched up if a note is out,you can use this on guitar as well.
Must admit i was not aware that the 2001 dvd was pro tooled,then out of the 4 times i have seen Augeri it would seem he only sang live once and that was at the Oakland benefit gig last Feb 05.So it is hard to judge things regarding his vocals I always thought he did a good job in the band but he was 38 when he joined way to old to compete with Perry's vocals,at that age you voice is changing.Thats why i was always stunned at how he could sing the way he did at 48!!!....now i know why


He was live most of the time. At least into 2004. I could bore you with the details, but why bother. I have enough shows to tell now when the B.S. started. Would have never caught it without Deano's help to be perfectly honest.

Mentioning SA being 48 is something a lot of folks forget. Good call.
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Postby Saint John » Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:48 pm

Let's be honest. When history writes Journey's chapter in the book of Rock and Roll, Steve Augeri will be the sanitary napkin that wipes up trhe ENTIRE group's poor decision. I have a problem with that....and I HATE Augeri.
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Postby AR » Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:50 pm

Let's be honest. When history writes Journey's chapter in the book of Rock and Roll, Steve Augeri will be the sanitary napkin that wipes up trhe ENTIRE group's poor decision. I have a problem with that....and I HATE Augeri


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Postby Saint John » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:00 pm

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Let's be honest. When history writes Journey's chapter in the book of Rock and Roll, Steve Augeri will be the sanitary napkin that wipes up trhe ENTIRE group's poor decision. I have a problem with that....and I HATE Augeri


Fuck you, I'm drunk and you suck. :wink:


SO.....what do you want me to suck?
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Postby AR » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:03 pm

And you piece of shit, I will make your life miserable around here. Your posts are boring and I know you aren't really drinking. Fuck you. Go die. Suck Perry's cock. Lick his coat tails. Go watch Queer eye for the straight guy. You think Deano is mean - go for it cock sucker.
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Postby McNeil » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:05 pm

Vladan wrote:What do you think. I feel here I can post a thread like this and get some real feeback.

I feel on the albums, he is a good singer - not great. I feel on the live material he is rather medicore to be honest!. That is my feelings. At first I thought JSS is a heavy metal vocalist and alittle rough for Journey, but after hearing some of the tracks, I think he is a good for the band now, I feel if they record a new album with JSS - it could be good for them! what have they got to lose? they are not getting any younger. I think Journey with JSS is a more complete band, as in they now have a singer that is solid and you get a sense of security that his voice will not break or crack, he's simply steller and solid. I always felt uneasy watching Steve Augeri, you know - can he do it, can he hit the notes, and alot of the time he doesn't on the 2001 DVD, he goes for the easy way out and it sounds either karaoke or just piss weak.


I wonder why they chose Augeri in the first place, I mean he is a good vocalist but not super, you know - not like a Steve Perry or an Elton John.


Elton John ???? ...Jeez man...great song writer, but could never be classed as a great singer....
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Postby AR » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:06 pm

And you piece of shit, I will make your life miserable around here. Your posts are boring and I know you aren't really drinking. Fuck you. Go die. Suck Perry's cock. Lick his coat tails. Go watch Queer eye for the straight guy. You think Deano is mean - go for it cock sucker.


Wow, how polite I become after a few hours of beer drinking. :lol:
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Postby Liam » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:06 pm

arrivalrules wrote:And you piece of shit, I will make your life miserable around here. Your posts are boring and I know you aren't really drinking. Fuck you. Go die. Suck Perry's cock. Lick his coat tails. Go watch Queer eye for the straight guy. You think Deano is mean - go for it cock sucker.


Holy SHIT. CALM, man. All is good tonight. :-)
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Postby AR » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:07 pm

Holy SHIT. CALM, man. All is good tonight.


No worries, Saint John is just a fag with keyboard courage. :lol:

And I hate this prick after reading this:

Goddammit, Larry, lay off KISS. KISS is NEVER geting in..KISS sucks....


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Postby McNeil » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:08 pm

Saint John wrote:Let's be honest. When history writes Journey's chapter in the book of Rock and Roll, Steve Augeri will be the sanitary napkin that wipes up trhe ENTIRE group's poor decision. I have a problem with that....and I HATE Augeri.


your a sad man!! Im sure Steve A is really concerned about your opinion... haha
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Postby Saint John » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:10 pm

arrivalrules wrote:
Holy SHIT. CALM, man. All is good tonight.


No worries, Saint John is just a fag with keyboard courage. :lol:


Give me a ring you ****. Here's my number....Check you're PM, Whore.
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Postby ArnelRox » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:11 pm

Ok I am officially tired of all this "I hate Augeri" "No I love Augeri" stuff. The guy stepped down (please let's not get into whether it was voluntary of not). He's gone. Like it or lump it. Augeri wasn't Perry. JSS isn't Perry. Perry doesn't want a damned thing to do w/Journey anymore. We're all just blowing smoke. Some people like Augeri, some didn't. Whatever. I even know people who hated Perry believe it or not. It's all a matter of taste isn't it? Perry's gone from Journey. Augeri is gone from Journey. JSS is up there. If we're fans, we need to stop the hatred and love the band. Let's move on. As someone's sig says the name of the band implies change. Let's journey with Journey?
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Postby AR » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:12 pm

Give me a ring you ****. Here's my number....Check you're PM, Whore


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Postby Liam » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:12 pm

Saint John wrote:
arrivalrules wrote:
Holy SHIT. CALM, man. All is good tonight.


No worries, Saint John is just a fag with keyboard courage. :lol:


Give me a ring you ****. Here's my number....Check you're PM, Whore.


Gotta admit that this IS getting a little more interesting though. :lol:
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Postby Saint John » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:12 pm

arrivalrules wrote:
Give me a ring you ****. Here's my number....Check you're PM, Whore


F U C K Y O U

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You're gonna lose...so bad.
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Postby Liam » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:14 pm

Cool it, you two. No "Liquid internet fights". Be cool. :-)
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Postby AR » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:14 pm

You're gonna lose...so bad.


No I won't. How can I lose? I have a beer and you don't.
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Postby ArnelRox » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:15 pm

Minute Andrew shows up, what do u bet this thread gets closed. Damn it. Why does this keep happening here?
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