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Coke, Pot or Heroin?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:01 pm
by Rockindeano
Let's all vote on this idiot's post from CT..You tell me what the Hell this person is on?


MCC620..well said about how SA delivers the songs. If U listen 2 Journey's live recordings w/Perry, most of the song keys were dropped lower and the songs were played really fast. Augeri era Journey sings and plays the songs in the key and at the speed the songs were originally recorded (Not exactly the ideal voice register 4 a singer in his late 30s and mid-40s). None the less, SA belted them out night after night 4 the last 8yrs. His performances were both humble and energetic. He seemed 2 enjoy every minute. My gripe is how the official, or lack thereof, is bein' handled. 4 these guys, is it about the fans and the love of platin'? Or is it about the $?


You have got to be kidding me?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:06 pm
by nolippin
Check out the name of the poster. That tells you all you need to know. He obviously knows nothing about Perry. The keys were never lowered for him during the concerts.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:09 pm
by Rockindeano
You know, I hate Augeris' ass, but his fans I despise.

It's posts like this....Steve Who? referring to Perry...Or "Perry can't touch Mr Awesome." That is simply not correct. No one can tell me with a sytraight face Augeri is/was/ better than Steve Perry.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:14 pm
by jabber
Is this the same person who said only Augeri sang Journey songs with "emotion and passion" etc etc? :shock: I just skimmed through, so I don't recall the exact wording, but it made me laugh. Perry had no emotion? Come ON.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:30 pm
by Saint John
If I ever see this dude, he's getting punched.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:39 pm
by Clasicrockldy
MCC620 is a girl..................... :D

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:48 pm
by Clasicrockldy
What thread was this post in over there? :?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:55 pm
by Rockindeano

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:00 pm
by Clasicrockldy
Thanks Deano, I am going to read this crap now. :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:30 pm
by Carlitto H@kk
There is actually ONE documented account of Journey, so to speak, lowering the key of songs for Perry and there are boots out there that prove it: When Steve, Neal and Jon played at the Bill Graham tribute. In fact, HH has said in interviews that Jon and Neal weren't aware that Perry needed the keys lowered until the day of the show and worked out everything right before they went on. Now, since this was a 3-4 song "one-off", I don't think it counts for much. But this is one true instance that the guys lowered key s for Perry.
Regardless, NO ONE will ever be able to match 80-84 era Perry, LIVE or Studio... It just ain't happening :)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:35 pm
by Perry86fan
Rockin'Deano wrote:From a "person" known as Augerian.


http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/031918.html


Deano thanks, but this person is out of there f***ing mind SA could not hold s**t to Mr P. And what i did read was pure crap but whatever she does not know good music.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:29 am
by MCC620
Clasicrockldy wrote:MCC620 is a girl..................... :D



Thanks for clarifying that...........

now let's be clear about what I said in my post that Augerian replied to...................

"I have been a Journey fan since I was 13 years old, but never, for me, did the music have as much passion, heart and soul as when Steve Augeri was singing the songs." You see people everyone's view of music is personal and objective.

I have been a fan of the music. Perry's vocals were amazing back in the day, but that is not what drew me in. It was Neal and his guitar.

Now Dean....do what Andrew said and stop bringing BT over here. I realize it must kill you to not be able to post over there, but get over it already.

If I knew how to put a smiley in I would put up a knight in armor cause I know you're going to just fire away.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:37 am
by Matthew
MCC620 wrote:
Clasicrockldy wrote:MCC620 is a girl..................... :D




"I have been a Journey fan since I was 13 years old, but never, for me, did the music have as much passion, heart and soul as when Steve Augeri was singing the songs." You see people everyone's view of music is personal and objective.




It's a wildly unusual view...I'll give you that....

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:44 am
by MCC620
Matthew wrote:
MCC620 wrote:
Clasicrockldy wrote:MCC620 is a girl..................... :D




"I have been a Journey fan since I was 13 years old, but never, for me, did the music have as much passion, heart and soul as when Steve Augeri was singing the songs." You see people everyone's view of music is personal and objective.




It's a wildly unusual view...I'll give you that....


Well it could be because I grew up with musicians in my family, not singers. So for me, the guitar was always fascinating. Like I said, music touches everyone differently. that's why there are so many different kinds of it out there. :)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:55 am
by Rockindeano
I respectfully don't get your reasoning at all. They sound so much better now after Augeri's departure. Neal sounds fresh, the drum sounds heavier, the bass sounds alive. hell, look at their faces! Even the Frig is smiling. That in itself is a miracle.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:19 am
by CatEyes
Jabberwocky wrote:Is this the same person who said only Augeri sang Journey songs with "emotion and passion" etc etc? :shock: I just skimmed through, so I don't recall the exact wording, but it made me laugh. Perry had no emotion? Come ON.


No that was Neal -

Cat

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:43 am
by Granny
Carlitto H@kk wrote:There is actually ONE documented account of Journey, so to speak, lowering the key of songs for Perry and there are boots out there that prove it: When Steve, Neal and Jon played at the Bill Graham tribute. In fact, HH has said in interviews that Jon and Neal weren't aware that Perry needed the keys lowered until the day of the show and worked out everything right before they went on. Now, since this was a 3-4 song "one-off", I don't think it counts for much. But this is one true instance that the guys lowered key s for Perry.
Regardless, NO ONE will ever be able to match 80-84 era Perry, LIVE or Studio... It just ain't happening :)


:) AMEN no one can match him even today. no one can ever sound like that beautiful, golden, unique, talented voice.
no one can match his stage persona either. There is the one and only origianl Steve Perry. Anyone who tries is a
jackass and just makes a fool of themselves. JSS sounds like he has his own technique and should do well with
the band. My hopes and dreams of ever seeing Steve Perry live before I die are probably very small. :)

nope no one

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:07 am
by jrnyfan86
No one! :D

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:15 am
by Liz22562
RND, what baffles me is why you hate everyone that enjoys listening to Augeri? What difference does it make to you whom anyone prefers to listen too? What do you care who his fans are or not?

It's beyond ridiculous and not even remotely funny. The same stuff, over and over.

Give it a rest for goodness sake.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:21 am
by SteveForever
Liz22562 wrote:RND, what baffles me is why you hate everyone that enjoys listening to Augeri? What difference does it make to you whom anyone prefers to listen too? What do you care who his fans are or not?

It's beyond ridiculous and not even remotely funny. The same stuff, over and over.

Give it a rest for goodness sake.



Liz, Liz, Liz....don't you understand some people have a mission in life? this is Deans.

Re: Coke, Pot or Heroin?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:24 am
by brywool
Rockin'Deano wrote:Let's all vote on this idiot's post from CT..You tell me what the Hell this person is on?


MCC620..well said about how SA delivers the songs. If U listen 2 Journey's live recordings w/Perry, most of the song keys were dropped lower and the songs were played really fast. Augeri era Journey sings and plays the songs in the key and at the speed the songs were originally recorded (Not exactly the ideal voice register 4 a singer in his late 30s and mid-40s). None the less, SA belted them out night after night 4 the last 8yrs. His performances were both humble and energetic. He seemed 2 enjoy every minute. My gripe is how the official, or lack thereof, is bein' handled. 4 these guys, is it about the fans and the love of platin'? Or is it about the $?


You have got to be kidding me?


Perry dropped the keys when he "Ran alone". Journey only dropped the keys for Perry at the Bill Graham Tribute. The songs were done in the original key's for SA, never dropped (that I'm aware of- and I've listened to a lot of boots).
Augeri DID belt them out night after night for years. SOME shows great. SOME shows not as great, but never completely horrible until this past tour when he left.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:52 am
by Rockindeano
Liz22562 wrote:RND, what baffles me is why you hate everyone that enjoys listening to Augeri? What difference does it make to you whom anyone prefers to listen too? What do you care who his fans are or not?

It's beyond ridiculous and not even remotely funny. The same stuff, over and over.

Give it a rest for goodness sake.


Oh ok mom. Go spin Arrival tonight and dream of that red leathered mimer for all it's worth. To even like him as a person to me is disgusting.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:22 am
by sadie65
Rockin'Deano wrote:
Liz22562 wrote:RND, what baffles me is why you hate everyone that enjoys listening to Augeri? What difference does it make to you whom anyone prefers to listen too? What do you care who his fans are or not?

It's beyond ridiculous and not even remotely funny. The same stuff, over and over.

Give it a rest for goodness sake.


Oh ok mom. Go spin Arrival tonight and dream of that red leathered mimer for all it's worth. To even like him as a person to me is disgusting.


Right. We all get it. Good lord dude...what a broken record you've become over this. Are you live....or are you memorex? :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:25 am
by Rockindeano
Go back to your Styx board and talk about how gay Dennis is.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:31 am
by sadie65
Rockin'Deano wrote:Go back to your Styx board and talk about how gay Dennis is.


Oooohhhh I am so convinced. Grow up already.

Jeez you are indeed a broken record.

Oh and for the record...no Dean...not angry with you...cuz lord knows it's all about you whenever someone chooses to differ in their point of view.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:32 pm
by Liz22562
Not only did I 'spin' Arrival, I listened to Red13 also. Sounded pretty good to me.

Might as well be disgusted with Journey as a whole - they would all be involved in your 'tapegate' allegations. Pity the poor fool who thinks likewise.

Peace to all - no doubt this will continue for another 6 months. Such a shame.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:24 am
by Paul_UK
Liz22562 wrote:
Peace to all - no doubt this will continue for another 6 months. Such a shame.


Only for certain people (or person!), Liz...I moved on long ago and loving this new era!

People need to get a grip of themselves and let things go.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:41 am
by sadie65
Paul_UK wrote:
Liz22562 wrote:
Peace to all - no doubt this will continue for another 6 months. Such a shame.


Only for certain people (or person!), Liz...I moved on long ago and loving this new era!

People need to get a grip of themselves and let things go.


And I think the majority here have. There are however those firmly entrenched on either "side" who feel the need to reiterate their point of view ad nauseum. It gets tedious to say the least.

I'd not count Liz as a person who has not accepted or moved on. I believe she has. What she, and several others are tired of is the need by some to continually toot their own horn in such a manner that belittles anyone who doesn't kowtow to that.

At least that's my interpretation of it. If I'm mistaken, then accept my apologies up front.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:55 am
by Paul_UK
sadie65 wrote:
Paul_UK wrote:
Liz22562 wrote:
Peace to all - no doubt this will continue for another 6 months. Such a shame.


Only for certain people (or person!), Liz...I moved on long ago and loving this new era!

People need to get a grip of themselves and let things go.


And I think the majority here have. There are however those firmly entrenched on either "side" who feel the need to reiterate their point of view ad nauseum. It gets tedious to say the least.

I'd not count Liz as a person who has not accepted or moved on. I believe she has. What she, and several others are tired of is the need by some to continually toot their own horn in such a manner that belittles anyone who doesn't kowtow to that.

At least that's my interpretation of it. If I'm mistaken, then accept my apologies up front.


Hiya Sadie!

Yeah, thats pretty much as i read it too! Liz and i are old buddies on here, we certainly know the score! :)