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The Future of Internet Music Marketing

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:14 am
by Argus
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Priceless Publicity

"Second Life is the future right now, offering endless possibilities for artists"
- Nick Taylor, Duran Duran

Music Future

http://secondlife.com/community/music.php

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:16 am
by Matthew
Is this spam?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:18 am
by Abitaman
Not from ACE, think he is making a point, internet is the way to go. going to a music store, and finding the music store doesn't carry half of what you like is a pain in the butt. Inernet is a growing filed, and is the way for an artist to invest-ERIC

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:22 am
by Argus
Matthew wrote:Is this spam?


Nope.. it's the future. http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/153512 ... lines=true

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:23 am
by Matthew
Abitaman wrote:Not from ACE, think he is making a point, internet is the way to go. going to a music store, and finding the music store doesn't carry half of what you like is a pain in the butt. Inernet is a growing filed, and is the way for an artist to invest-ERIC



Ah...okay...I wasn't sure what the point was.

I'm so with you about internet music stores carrying less than half of what you like and want. But believe me...the US iTunes music store is a treasure chest next to the UK version...which stocks about three rock songs and about a million alternative and hip-rop records.

I've often wondered...why doesn't Melodicrock.com open up a music store for AOR/classic rock? Would this be possible? Forgive me if it's a stupid or naive question...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:31 am
by Argus
Matthew wrote:
Abitaman wrote:Not from ACE, think he is making a point, internet is the way to go. going to a music store, and finding the music store doesn't carry half of what you like is a pain in the butt. Inernet is a growing filed, and is the way for an artist to invest-ERIC



Ah...okay...I wasn't sure what the point was.

I'm so with you about internet music stores carrying less than half of what you like and want. But believe me...the US iTunes music store is a treasure chest next to the UK version...which stocks about three rock songs and about a million alternative and hip-rop records.

I've often wondered...why doesn't Melodicrock.com open up a music store for AOR/classic rock? Would this be possible? Forgive me if it's a stupid or naive question...


Not just the selling of music online but reaching a market of 16-32 year olds who have the desire to listen to music. Myspace is HUGE but disconnected. If Journey put a blurb out on the myspace pages it would reach certainly all the 47k friends and perhaps 11 million other potential customers. Up until now the online gaming community has mostly been about attaining levels of importance/rank. There is a growing trend towards online virtual chatrooms where you exist in cyber-space as an avatar you create and interact with others in that community. This is cutting edge marketing. Duran Duran is upstaging everyone in this area. That doesn't have to be so.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:35 am
by Matthew
ace wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Abitaman wrote:Not from ACE, think he is making a point, internet is the way to go. going to a music store, and finding the music store doesn't carry half of what you like is a pain in the butt. Inernet is a growing filed, and is the way for an artist to invest-ERIC



Ah...okay...I wasn't sure what the point was.

I'm so with you about internet music stores carrying less than half of what you like and want. But believe me...the US iTunes music store is a treasure chest next to the UK version...which stocks about three rock songs and about a million alternative and hip-rop records.

I've often wondered...why doesn't Melodicrock.com open up a music store for AOR/classic rock? Would this be possible? Forgive me if it's a stupid or naive question...


Not just the selling of music online but reaching a market of 16-32 year olds who have the desire to listen to music. Myspace is HUGE but disconnected. If Journey put a blurb out on the myspace pages it would reach certainly all the 47k friends and perhaps 11 million other potential customers. Up until now the online gaming community has mostly been about attaining levels of importance/rank. There is a growing trend towards online virtual chatrooms where you exist in cyber-space as an avatar you create and interact with others in that community. This is cutting edge marketing. Duran Duran is upstaging everyone in this area. That doesn't have to be so.


Great...but I still can't legally download much more than a few Greatest Hits albums by bands I don't like that much.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:24 am
by Andrew
Major labels don't get it.

I was just asked to REMOVE the 5x 1 minute Paul Stanley MP3 SAMPLES due to them not being approved by Universal.

OK, so rather than sample the album here, now whoever will go to any number of other avenues and DOWNLOAD the whole album for free.

Nice one dickheads!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:28 am
by Matthew
Andrew wrote:Major labels don't get it.

I was just asked to REMOVE the 5x 1 minute Paul Stanley MP3 SAMPLES due to them not being approved by Universal.

OK, so rather than sample the album here, now whoever will go to any number of other avenues and DOWNLOAD the whole album for free.

Nice one dickheads!



That's ridiculous...

But Andrew - would Universal allow you to be a music store for the album? If you had songs available which Universal would receive money for would they be more willing to co-operate? Or has iTunes sewn up the market?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:30 am
by Vladan
Andrew wrote:Major labels don't get it.

I was just asked to REMOVE the 5x 1 minute Paul Stanley MP3 SAMPLES due to them not being approved by Universal.

OK, so rather than sample the album here, now whoever will go to any number of other avenues and DOWNLOAD the whole album for free.

Nice one dickheads!


Thats exactly right, they are just shooting themselves in the feet. It seems whoever is making the desicision for this Major lable is obviously not thinking about the long term, these guys will have more problems now - people will be downloading their goods for free now. I guess we can say to them - "Was it really worth it?".

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:04 pm
by Argus
Matthew wrote:
ace wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Abitaman wrote:Not from ACE, think he is making a point, internet is the way to go. going to a music store, and finding the music store doesn't carry half of what you like is a pain in the butt. Inernet is a growing filed, and is the way for an artist to invest-ERIC



Ah...okay...I wasn't sure what the point was.

I'm so with you about internet music stores carrying less than half of what you like and want. But believe me...the US iTunes music store is a treasure chest next to the UK version...which stocks about three rock songs and about a million alternative and hip-rop records.

I've often wondered...why doesn't Melodicrock.com open up a music store for AOR/classic rock? Would this be possible? Forgive me if it's a stupid or naive question...


Not just the selling of music online but reaching a market of 16-32 year olds who have the desire to listen to music. Myspace is HUGE but disconnected. If Journey put a blurb out on the myspace pages it would reach certainly all the 47k friends and perhaps 11 million other potential customers. Up until now the online gaming community has mostly been about attaining levels of importance/rank. There is a growing trend towards online virtual chatrooms where you exist in cyber-space as an avatar you create and interact with others in that community. This is cutting edge marketing. Duran Duran is upstaging everyone in this area. That doesn't have to be so.


Great...but I still can't legally download much more than a few Greatest Hits albums by bands I don't like that much.


Really, Rhapsody offers paid downloads through their service that you burn to cd. I agree that this makes for a messy import into Audition for a wav and then Thompson has a mp3 encoder program to turn them into mp3 files. Yeah the record companies aren't getting past the iTune mentality. I agree.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:24 pm
by Matthew
Thanks Ace. I'll check Rhapsody out.

But I'm still not clear about why Melodicrock.com can't offer a legal download store?

Sorry to be a bore about this...

Re: The Future of Internet Music Marketing

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:33 pm
by Glenn
ace wrote:5219 MR members
11184 BT members
47798 myspace friends
111,205,604 myspace network
723342 SL and 15% growth per month

Priceless Publicity

"Second Life is the future right now, offering endless possibilities for artists"
- Nick Taylor, Duran Duran

Music Future

http://secondlife.com/community/music.php


Who is Nick Taylor?

Roger, John, Andy Taylor....Don't remember a Nick.

Nick Rhodes maybe?

I fucking hate when reporters get names wrong (and song titles wrong in a music review)

ok, back to the future of Internet Music Marketing

Re: The Future of Internet Music Marketing

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:05 am
by A Fire Inside
ace wrote:5219 MR members
11184 BT members
47798 myspace friends
111,205,604 myspace network
723342 SL and 15% growth per month

Priceless Publicity

"Second Life is the future right now, offering endless possibilities for artists"
- Nick Taylor, Duran Duran

Music Future

http://secondlife.com/community/music.php

If you're saying Journey should get on Second Life... it won't happen. Myspace is far more popular, and look how long it took them to figure THAT out! I really cannot picture them making little CG representations of themselves and actually using them for promotion. Journey has so many chances at promoting themselves and they usually just wave at them as they pass by. A MMORPG is not exactly the best way to get into the habit.

But I have been wrong before...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:07 am
by yulog
Andrew wrote:Major labels don't get it.

I was just asked to REMOVE the 5x 1 minute Paul Stanley MP3 SAMPLES due to them not being approved by Universal.

OK, so rather than sample the album here, now whoever will go to any number of other avenues and DOWNLOAD the whole album for free.

Nice one dickheads!


yeah i just downloaded it a few minutes ago proving Andrews point

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:29 am
by Andrew
Matthew wrote:
But I'm still not clear about why Melodicrock.com can't offer a legal download store?

...


It's a thought....but time and money needed to set up...