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Set list all old suff?

Posted:
Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:38 pm
by bionic
I could be wrong on this but is the set list all old stuff now? I hope it is not the case,whatever anyone thought of Augeri this era of the band should be represented live Faith in the..,Place in Your...,Higher Place,Take You All the Way etc are great songs.For the band to move forward and not live in the past they must include these songs and if they have time get in the studio with Jeff soon!
Your Thoughts

Re: Set list all old suff?

Posted:
Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:42 pm
by Vladan
bionic wrote:I could be wrong on this but is the set list all old stuff now? I hope it is not the case,whatever anyone thought of Augeri this era of the band should be represented live Faith in the..,Place in Your...,Higher Place,Take You All the Way etc are great songs.For the band to move forward and not live in the past they must include these songs and if they have time get in the studio with Jeff soon!
Your Thoughts

Lol dude, All The Way is debatable! but it is Journey a band that has been around for 30 years +. They are moving forward by playing the classics (in a sense) they are not going backwards, 30 years later its kind of hard to be stuck in the past when you are getting older, they are here playing the classic songs because it pays the bills and it is who they are, and it is what all the fans as a whole want. All The Way has been played apparantly, but I guess there is a reason they probably don't play those tunes all that much - best ask Journey.
Neal said in interviews there are things he still does not like about Journey, but! it pays the bills - quote. I think those songs you hear on RED 13, and more of the tunes on Generations are somewhat of what Neal perhaps wants to be doing, but maybe it is not what the majority want to hear - hence Neals "it pays the bills" comment.
Re: Set list all old suff?

Posted:
Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:50 am
by The_Noble_Cause
bionic wrote:I could be wrong on this but is the set list all old stuff now? I hope it is not the case,whatever anyone thought of Augeri this era of the band should be represented live Faith in the..,Place in Your...,Higher Place,Take You All the Way etc are great songs.For the band to move forward and not live in the past they must include these songs and if they have time get in the studio with Jeff soon!
Your Thoughts

For whatever reason, the band has stopped playing newer material.
Maybe they didn't suit JSS's voice.
Or maybe the band wants to "sell" JSS to the Perry-accustomed casual masses first, and then proceed with introducing their own new material.
Much like Azoff mngt, the line of thinking seems to be "if we pretend Steve Augeri never existed, perhaps he'll simply go away."
Re: Set list all old suff?

Posted:
Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:30 am
by bionic
The_Noble_Cause wrote:bionic wrote:I could be wrong on this but is the set list all old stuff now? I hope it is not the case,whatever anyone thought of Augeri this era of the band should be represented live Faith in the..,Place in Your...,Higher Place,Take You All the Way etc are great songs.For the band to move forward and not live in the past they must include these songs and if they have time get in the studio with Jeff soon!
Your Thoughts

For whatever reason, the band has stopped playing newer material.
Maybe they didn't suit JSS's voice.
Or maybe the band wants to "sell" JSS to the Perry-accustomed casual masses first, and then proceed with introducing their own new material.
Much like Azoff mngt, the line of thinking seems to be "if we pretend Steve Augeri never existed, perhaps he'll simply go away."
It may be that with Steve used as the scapegoat they do want to move and forget the problems of the past evan to the extent of not playing Augeri era material! It seems that in history of Journey Steve is the part they are most ashamed of and want to forget.Lets hope Andrew is allowed to bring up the whole scandel subject when he talks to the guys

Re: Set list all old suff?

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:18 am
by The_Noble_Cause
bionic wrote:It may be that with Steve used as the scapegoat they do want to move and forget the problems of the past evan to the extent of not playing Augeri era material! It seems that in history of Journey Steve is the part they are most ashamed of and want to forget.
That's really only an assumption.
But I imagine Neal wants to put the era quickly behind him.
Why do u think he was so quick to flee town and create SoulSirkus away from Journey?
He knew the ship was sinking and wanted OUT! FAAAASSSST!
bionic wrote:Lets hope Andrew is allowed to bring up the whole scandel subject when he talks to the guys

It'll be complete and utter sanitized pap. Off-record they will shoot the shit about the generous use of tapes, but in the interview it'll be treated HIGHLY sensitively. Prolly referred to as Steve's "continuous vocal challenges" or some vague nonsense.
Re: Set list all old suff?

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:34 am
by The Ghost Rider
The_Noble_Cause wrote:It'll be complete and utter sanitized pap. Off-record they will shoot the shit about the generous use of tapes, but in the interview it'll be treated HIGHLY sensitively. Prolly referred to as Steve's "continuous vocal challenges" or some vague nonsense.
Unfortunately, you are probably correct.
However...
How cool would it be if they actually gave Andrew the
whole shit? And let him
break the story here on MelodicRock? I would say that possibility does exist...although the chances are slim. We'll see.

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:40 am
by AR
They only have like 85 minutes or something. When the tour with DL is over and they are on a headlining tour with more time I'd imagine that you'll get a wider variety of songs.
The current setlist is perfect for a co-headlining tour. Plus with Keep on Running and Dead or Alive in the set, there are 2 rockers in there that totally smoke. Those 2 were real highlights for me in the last 2 shows I've gone to.

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:44 am
by Just Mindy
Its too bad their time is so limited now...I'm hoping that they DO headline next year with plenty of time to play other, and more, songs...
Re: Set list all old suff?

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:46 am
by The_Noble_Cause
The Confessor wrote:Unfortunately, you are probably correct.
However...
How cool would it be if they actually gave Andrew the whole shit? And let him break the story here on MelodicRock? I would say that possibility does exist...although the chances are slim. We'll see.
Knowing how much Neal shoots from the hip, I bet he'd love to set the record straight and clear the air.
Just look at how much he rags on Perry and airs his dirty laundry in interviews these days.
Here's the rub - Neal can't come clean about Augeri's tape-use without implicating himself in the process.
Would love for him to be a man and actually make amends with his fans.
This might sound a tad presumptous, but I firmly believe he owes the fans that much.
Re: Set list all old suff?

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:56 am
by MCC620
The_Noble_Cause wrote:The Confessor wrote:Unfortunately, you are probably correct.
However...
How cool would it be if they actually gave Andrew the whole shit? And let him break the story here on MelodicRock? I would say that possibility does exist...although the chances are slim. We'll see.
Knowing how much Neal shoots from the hip, I bet he'd love to set the record straight and clear the air.
Just look at how much he rags on Perry and airs his dirty laundry in interviews these days.
Here's the rub - Neal can't come clean about Augeri's tape-use without implicating himself in the process.
Would love for him to be a man and actually make amends with his fans.
This might sound a tad presumptous, but I firmly believe he owes the fans that much.
With that ego of his?!?!?! He will try to make Augeri the "Dr Evil" of the bunch. Hey I bet he even started that process....certain comments have been made here, by his helf proclaimed soldier, saying that now it is believed that Neal knew nothing about tapes being used. It was all Elson and Augeri. Yeah right!
And as for the fans.....Neal don't care about them, never has and never will. If he's feeling good he will stop and chat, pose for a picture, but if he's not look out! That's one of the many reasons Augeri irked him. Augeri connected with the fans. And then was always consistent with them.
Good luck to Jeff should his group of THP lovers start to grow and over shadow Mr "Lead Guitar" Schon.

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:08 am
by Enigma869
Neal (and EVERY other guitarist on the planet) will ALWAYS play second fiddle to the lead singer. That's rock and roll, folks! Just like the QB is the star in football, the man singing the music is going to get all the attention! Neal is a SUPERB guitarist (in spite of often making idiotic statements!), but at the end of the day, people aren't buying Journey cd's (or any other band, for that matter) to listen to guitar riffs. It is a VERY small minority of fans who are ever drawn in by guitar riffs, drums, etc. I think when it's all said and done, all Neal really cares about is his ability to tour and "pay the bills", as he has said so many times. I think Neal should probably spend less time talking smack about Perry (which I still don't quite understand...Isn't Neal the one who said something along the lines that Perry had an "open invitation" to re-join Journey at any point?) and more time being grateful that Perry made him so famous!
John from Boston

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:16 am
by MCC620
Enigma869 wrote:Neal (and EVERY other guitarist on the planet) will ALWAYS play second fiddle to the lead singer. That's rock and roll, folks! Just like the QB is the star in football, the man singing the music is going to get all the attention! Neal is a SUPERB guitarist (in spite of often making idiotic statements!), but at the end of the day, people aren't buying Journey cd's (or any other band, for that matter) to listen to guitar riffs. It is a VERY small minority of fans who are ever drawn in by guitar riffs, drums, etc. I think when it's all said and done, all Neal really cares about is his ability to tour and "pay the bills", as he has said so many times. I think Neal should probably spend less time talking smack about Perry (which I still don't quite understand...Isn't Neal the one who said something along the lines that Perry had an "open invitation" to re-join Journey at any point?) and more time being grateful that Perry made him so famous!
John from Boston
But you see John, that's where Mr Schon's ego shine through! He really isn't grateful. He really does think that it is and should be all about him. I've watched him watch the fans waiting for Steve, the disgust on his face is quite clear. He now has Jeff on his knees at least once or twice a night hailing his guitar riffs. All hail the GOD! Someone wrote on the other site about the band dealing with the strees and heartache over Steve's medical issues.......yeah Neal is dealing with it by running up and down the stage like he's 20 again. It is so obvious what happened. Just re-read his Perry bashing. He should ditch the purple shirt and keep the green one. It is quite reflective of his feelings.

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:17 am
by Red13JoePa
I know they were playing Faith In The Heartland early on and had been working on The Place In Your Heart w/ JSS but I don't know if they've ever gotten around to doing TPIYH yet...
It'd be a shame to ignore the Generations material it kicks so much ass it's insane. I could see Believe, Butterfly, Beyond The Clouds, Better Together, and maybe Gone Crazy (in a big long show, it would work for a short blow for JDoubleS) being retired but all the other stuff especially the Big 3 FITH, TPIY and Out OF Harms Way i'd like to still see included from time to time.
But as long as they're rolling as part of a twin bill or at least this one w/ DL there's room for maybe only 1 newbie.

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:18 am
by NealIsGod
MCC620 wrote:Enigma869 wrote:Neal (and EVERY other guitarist on the planet) will ALWAYS play second fiddle to the lead singer. That's rock and roll, folks! Just like the QB is the star in football, the man singing the music is going to get all the attention! Neal is a SUPERB guitarist (in spite of often making idiotic statements!), but at the end of the day, people aren't buying Journey cd's (or any other band, for that matter) to listen to guitar riffs. It is a VERY small minority of fans who are ever drawn in by guitar riffs, drums, etc. I think when it's all said and done, all Neal really cares about is his ability to tour and "pay the bills", as he has said so many times. I think Neal should probably spend less time talking smack about Perry (which I still don't quite understand...Isn't Neal the one who said something along the lines that Perry had an "open invitation" to re-join Journey at any point?) and more time being grateful that Perry made him so famous!
John from Boston
But you see John, that's where Mr Schon's ego shine through! He really isn't grateful. He really does think that it is and should be all about him. I've watched him watch the fans waiting for Steve, the disgust on his face is quite clear. He now has Jeff on his knees at least once or twice a night hailing his guitar riffs. All hail the GOD! Someone wrote on the other site about the band dealing with the strees and heartache over Steve's medical issues.......yeah Neal is dealing with it by running up and down the stage like he's 20 again. It is so obvious what happened. Just re-read his Perry bashing. He should ditch the purple shirt and keep the green one. It is quite reflective of his feelings.
Maybe you should just find another band to support if you hate them so much.

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:22 am
by MCC620
NealIsGod wrote:MCC620 wrote:Enigma869 wrote:Neal (and EVERY other guitarist on the planet) will ALWAYS play second fiddle to the lead singer. That's rock and roll, folks! Just like the QB is the star in football, the man singing the music is going to get all the attention! Neal is a SUPERB guitarist (in spite of often making idiotic statements!), but at the end of the day, people aren't buying Journey cd's (or any other band, for that matter) to listen to guitar riffs. It is a VERY small minority of fans who are ever drawn in by guitar riffs, drums, etc. I think when it's all said and done, all Neal really cares about is his ability to tour and "pay the bills", as he has said so many times. I think Neal should probably spend less time talking smack about Perry (which I still don't quite understand...Isn't Neal the one who said something along the lines that Perry had an "open invitation" to re-join Journey at any point?) and more time being grateful that Perry made him so famous!
John from Boston
But you see John, that's where Mr Schon's ego shine through! He really isn't grateful. He really does think that it is and should be all about him. I've watched him watch the fans waiting for Steve, the disgust on his face is quite clear. He now has Jeff on his knees at least once or twice a night hailing his guitar riffs. All hail the GOD! Someone wrote on the other site about the band dealing with the strees and heartache over Steve's medical issues.......yeah Neal is dealing with it by running up and down the stage like he's 20 again. It is so obvious what happened. Just re-read his Perry bashing. He should ditch the purple shirt and keep the green one. It is quite reflective of his feelings.
Maybe you should just find another band to support if you hate them so much.
I don't hate the band or the music. Just hate what is obviously going on. I am disappointed that the very man that brought this music to me so many years ago is letting everything go down the way it is. He is neglecting the very fans that feed him. But that is his and this management's MO.

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:24 am
by Red13JoePa
maybe JSS is hailing Neal's playing on his own?

From what little I know about him, he doesn't seem like the type of lad to stand having a gun pointed to his head on anything...not that him being forced to homage Neal's playing is plausible anyway.

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:29 am
by NealIsGod
MCC620 wrote:NealIsGod wrote:MCC620 wrote:Enigma869 wrote:Neal (and EVERY other guitarist on the planet) will ALWAYS play second fiddle to the lead singer. That's rock and roll, folks! Just like the QB is the star in football, the man singing the music is going to get all the attention! Neal is a SUPERB guitarist (in spite of often making idiotic statements!), but at the end of the day, people aren't buying Journey cd's (or any other band, for that matter) to listen to guitar riffs. It is a VERY small minority of fans who are ever drawn in by guitar riffs, drums, etc. I think when it's all said and done, all Neal really cares about is his ability to tour and "pay the bills", as he has said so many times. I think Neal should probably spend less time talking smack about Perry (which I still don't quite understand...Isn't Neal the one who said something along the lines that Perry had an "open invitation" to re-join Journey at any point?) and more time being grateful that Perry made him so famous!
John from Boston
But you see John, that's where Mr Schon's ego shine through! He really isn't grateful. He really does think that it is and should be all about him. I've watched him watch the fans waiting for Steve, the disgust on his face is quite clear. He now has Jeff on his knees at least once or twice a night hailing his guitar riffs. All hail the GOD! Someone wrote on the other site about the band dealing with the strees and heartache over Steve's medical issues.......yeah Neal is dealing with it by running up and down the stage like he's 20 again. It is so obvious what happened. Just re-read his Perry bashing. He should ditch the purple shirt and keep the green one. It is quite reflective of his feelings.
Maybe you should just find another band to support if you hate them so much.
I don't hate the band or the music. Just hate what is obviously going on. I am disappointed that the very man that brought this music to me so many years ago is letting everything go down the way it is. He is neglecting the very fans that feed him. But that is his and this management's MO.
Guess you're entitled, but once you see them with JSS I think you will be able to get past it. Even 13 is past it, and he is the biggest Augie fan on this board.

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:37 am
by MCC620
NealIsGod wrote:MCC620 wrote:NealIsGod wrote:MCC620 wrote:Enigma869 wrote:Neal (and EVERY other guitarist on the planet) will ALWAYS play second fiddle to the lead singer. That's rock and roll, folks! Just like the QB is the star in football, the man singing the music is going to get all the attention! Neal is a SUPERB guitarist (in spite of often making idiotic statements!), but at the end of the day, people aren't buying Journey cd's (or any other band, for that matter) to listen to guitar riffs. It is a VERY small minority of fans who are ever drawn in by guitar riffs, drums, etc. I think when it's all said and done, all Neal really cares about is his ability to tour and "pay the bills", as he has said so many times. I think Neal should probably spend less time talking smack about Perry (which I still don't quite understand...Isn't Neal the one who said something along the lines that Perry had an "open invitation" to re-join Journey at any point?) and more time being grateful that Perry made him so famous!
John from Boston
But you see John, that's where Mr Schon's ego shine through! He really isn't grateful. He really does think that it is and should be all about him. I've watched him watch the fans waiting for Steve, the disgust on his face is quite clear. He now has Jeff on his knees at least once or twice a night hailing his guitar riffs. All hail the GOD! Someone wrote on the other site about the band dealing with the strees and heartache over Steve's medical issues.......yeah Neal is dealing with it by running up and down the stage like he's 20 again. It is so obvious what happened. Just re-read his Perry bashing. He should ditch the purple shirt and keep the green one. It is quite reflective of his feelings.
Maybe you should just find another band to support if you hate them so much.
I don't hate the band or the music. Just hate what is obviously going on. I am disappointed that the very man that brought this music to me so many years ago is letting everything go down the way it is. He is neglecting the very fans that feed him. But that is his and this management's MO.
Guess you're entitled, but once you see them with JSS I think you will be able to get past it. Even 13 is past it, and he is the biggest Augie fan on this board.
I've seen them 3 times with Jeff. In Vegas he blew me away. I loved every minute of it. In Cali, not so much. Boston last week, he was good. And I'm entitled to not be blown away at every show. Doesn't mean I am giving up on the music. But my comments now have nothing to do with Jeff fronting the band. More power to him.
I'm disappointed and disgusted with the way things are being handled. As I'm sure many are.

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:37 am
by Enigma869
NealIsGod wrote:MCC620 wrote:Enigma869 wrote:Neal (and EVERY other guitarist on the planet) will ALWAYS play second fiddle to the lead singer. That's rock and roll, folks! Just like the QB is the star in football, the man singing the music is going to get all the attention! Neal is a SUPERB guitarist (in spite of often making idiotic statements!), but at the end of the day, people aren't buying Journey cd's (or any other band, for that matter) to listen to guitar riffs. It is a VERY small minority of fans who are ever drawn in by guitar riffs, drums, etc. I think when it's all said and done, all Neal really cares about is his ability to tour and "pay the bills", as he has said so many times. I think Neal should probably spend less time talking smack about Perry (which I still don't quite understand...Isn't Neal the one who said something along the lines that Perry had an "open invitation" to re-join Journey at any point?) and more time being grateful that Perry made him so famous!
John from Boston
But you see John, that's where Mr Schon's ego shine through! He really isn't grateful. He really does think that it is and should be all about him. I've watched him watch the fans waiting for Steve, the disgust on his face is quite clear. He now has Jeff on his knees at least once or twice a night hailing his guitar riffs. All hail the GOD! Someone wrote on the other site about the band dealing with the strees and heartache over Steve's medical issues.......yeah Neal is dealing with it by running up and down the stage like he's 20 again. It is so obvious what happened. Just re-read his Perry bashing. He should ditch the purple shirt and keep the green one. It is quite reflective of his feelings.
Maybe you should just find another band to support if you hate them so much.
Not sure if this was directed at me or not, but, in the event it was...I can assure you that I don't hate Journey or their music. I've been a fan of Journey since 1978, and I don't see that changing, anytime soon. Now...Do I think "Neal is God"?....Definitely not! He's an immensely talented musician who had his success forced upon him by one Herbie Herbert!
John from Boston

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:39 am
by Red13JoePa
NealIsGod wrote: Guess you're entitled, but once you see them with JSS I think you will be able to get past it. Even 13 is past it, and he is the biggest Augie fan on this board.
Love that Generations lineup but it's over (I think) and I'm fine with it, long's we keep rolling on with the current crew, lead vocalist included.
The Neal bashing I understand ZERO of, though.

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:45 am
by MCC620
Red13JoePa wrote:NealIsGod wrote: Guess you're entitled, but once you see them with JSS I think you will be able to get past it. Even 13 is past it, and he is the biggest Augie fan on this board.
Love that Generations lineup but it's over (I think) and I'm fine with it, long's we keep rolling on with the current crew, lead vocalist included.
The Neal bashing I understand ZERO of, though.
Rumor has it, from his very own soldier, that Neal knew nothing of "tapegate". He has been the only constant in this band for 30+ years and he wants me to believe he didn't play a part in the making of this decision?!?!?!??!?!? That, I have a problem with. C'mon. Eat crow admit it and move on. Don't drop it at the feet of the lowest guy on the totem pole. Be a TEAM!

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:00 am
by MindFreak
MCC620 wrote:Red13JoePa wrote:NealIsGod wrote: Guess you're entitled, but once you see them with JSS I think you will be able to get past it. Even 13 is past it, and he is the biggest Augie fan on this board.
Love that Generations lineup but it's over (I think) and I'm fine with it, long's we keep rolling on with the current crew, lead vocalist included.
The Neal bashing I understand ZERO of, though.
Rumor has it, from his very own soldier, that Neal knew nothing of "tapegate". He has been the only constant in this band for 30+ years and he wants me to believe he didn't play a part in the making of this decision?!?!?!??!?!? That, I have a problem with. C'mon. Eat crow admit it and move on. Don't drop it at the feet of the lowest guy on the totem pole. Be a TEAM!
You say that rumor has it, that Neal said he knew nothing of "tapegate"......... I'm in shock!
NO WAY FOR ONE MINUTE do I believe that NEAL SCHON doesn't know what each and every employee of his is doing!!!!!
I believe the tapegate. But I also believe THE ENTIRE BAND knew it was being done.
This is one RUMOR I choose to ignore.

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:55 am
by A Fire Inside
MindFreak wrote:You say that rumor has it, that Neal said he knew nothing of "tapegate"......... I'm in shock!
NO WAY FOR ONE MINUTE do I believe that NEAL SCHON doesn't know what each and every employee of his is doing!!!!!
I believe the tapegate. But I also believe THE ENTIRE BAND knew it was being done.
This is one RUMOR I choose to ignore.
Neal did not say that... Dean at one point thought that maybe no one in the band but Augeri actually knew about the extent of the tape use. I'm not sure if he still thinks so.

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:16 am
by MCC620
A Fire Inside wrote:MindFreak wrote:You say that rumor has it, that Neal said he knew nothing of "tapegate"......... I'm in shock!
NO WAY FOR ONE MINUTE do I believe that NEAL SCHON doesn't know what each and every employee of his is doing!!!!!
I believe the tapegate. But I also believe THE ENTIRE BAND knew it was being done.
This is one RUMOR I choose to ignore.
Neal did not say that... Dean at one point thought that maybe no one in the band but Augeri actually knew about the extent of the tape use. I'm not sure if he still thinks so.
Cmon Deano doesn't assume anything....he speaks the truth about all he knows remember.

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:29 am
by MCC620
Red13JoePa wrote:maybe JSS is hailing Neal's playing on his own?

From what little I know about him, he doesn't seem like the type of lad to stand having a gun pointed to his head on anything...not that him being forced to homage Neal's playing is plausible anyway.
Didn't say Jeff was being forced to............

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:41 pm
by heardonthestreet
It's often stated that Schon is underated. His peers even state this. Wonder what it would take to get him the acclaim he thinks he deserves.
Someone else posted that he should try doing Journey's lead vocals. That might just work. Clapton isn't the best vocalist but it's the combination of voice and guitar that is unique. That would get his name out there, for better or for worse.

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:44 pm
by heardonthestreet
It might even make him a bit less self indulgent on guitar.

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:50 pm
by Enigma869
heardonthestreet wrote:It's often stated that Schon is underated. His peers even state this. Wonder what it would take to get him the acclaim he thinks he deserves.
Someone else posted that he should try doing Journey's lead vocals. That might just work. Clapton isn't the best vocalist but it's the combination of voice and guitar that is unique. That would get his name out there, for better or for worse.
You can't be serious! Have you heard Neal sing?? The guy is a guitarist for a reason! I think Neal is a superb guitarist. I also think even Neal is smart enough to never think he has the vocal talents to sing Journey's catalog of music! Journey's catalog is one that is EXTREMELY challenging to sing, even for the most talented vocalists. It is simply not music that should ever be sung by those who aren't talented enough vocalists. There is a reason Neal has been paying his billls through the 6 string all these years. Nothing would alienate Journey fans more than Neal taking over vocals! I certainly wouldn't ever listen to Journey again (unless it was a Perry-sung track)!
John from Boston

Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:07 pm
by heardonthestreet
Enigma869 wrote:heardonthestreet wrote:It's often stated that Schon is underated. His peers even state this. Wonder what it would take to get him the acclaim he thinks he deserves.
Someone else posted that he should try doing Journey's lead vocals. That might just work. Clapton isn't the best vocalist but it's the combination of voice and guitar that is unique. That would get his name out there, for better or for worse.
You can't be serious! Have you heard Neal sing?? The guy is a guitarist for a reason! I think Neal is a superb guitarist. I also think even Neal is smart enough to never think he has the vocal talents to sing Journey's catalog of music! Journey's catalog is one that is EXTREMELY challenging to sing, even for the most talented vocalists. It is simply not music that should ever be sung by those who aren't talented enough vocalists. There is a reason Neal has been paying his billls through the 6 string all these years. Nothing would alienate Journey fans more than Neal taking over vocals! I certainly wouldn't ever listen to Journey again (unless it was a Perry-sung track)!
John from Boston
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Their new material could be with Schon on lead vocals in whatever key he needs and the old material could be done by all the guys in harmony. All the years of backup vocals would make it a shoein for them. It would give Journey a fresh new sound with the old hits and Schon a chanch to really shine.
His vocals only lack confidence. You can hear it in his voice. He sings scared.
It's a fun thought.


Posted:
Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:47 pm
by Enigma869
heardonthestreet wrote:Enigma869 wrote:heardonthestreet wrote:It's often stated that Schon is underated. His peers even state this. Wonder what it would take to get him the acclaim he thinks he deserves.
Someone else posted that he should try doing Journey's lead vocals. That might just work. Clapton isn't the best vocalist but it's the combination of voice and guitar that is unique. That would get his name out there, for better or for worse.
You can't be serious! Have you heard Neal sing?? The guy is a guitarist for a reason! I think Neal is a superb guitarist. I also think even Neal is smart enough to never think he has the vocal talents to sing Journey's catalog of music! Journey's catalog is one that is EXTREMELY challenging to sing, even for the most talented vocalists. It is simply not music that should ever be sung by those who aren't talented enough vocalists. There is a reason Neal has been paying his billls through the 6 string all these years. Nothing would alienate Journey fans more than Neal taking over vocals! I certainly wouldn't ever listen to Journey again (unless it was a Perry-sung track)!
John from Boston
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Their new material could be with Schon on lead vocals in whatever key he needs and the old material could be done by all the guys in harmony. All the years of backup vocals would make it a shoein for them. It would give Journey a fresh new sound with the old hits and Schon a chanch to really shine.
His vocals only lack confidence. You can hear it in his voice. He sings scared.
It's a fun thought.

We'll agree to disagree on this point, and call it a night! Neal's vocals lack a hell of a lot more than confidence! They lack EVERYTHING! His voice does not belong singing lead on ANY Journey material, EVER! While I have no problem with the Neal Schon worship for the great guitarist that he is...Let's not get nuts here! Even Schon fans can't be that crazy to actually believe this guy can sing, because he can't!
John from Boston