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[Eric]

Hey Richie,

Can you please just keep your mouth shut until Andrew provides an official statement next week.

You refuse to answer questions here I know, but you have just one week of BS left...

[Rockindeano]

Hey Richie,

Can you please just keep your mouth shut until Andrew provides an official statement next week.

You refuse to answer questions here I know, but you have just one week of BS left...

Less than that.

[Carlitto H@kk]

Hey Richie,

Can you please just keep your mouth shut until Andrew provides an official statement next week.

You refuse to answer questions here I know, but you have just one week of BS left...

Here's the funniest part about that dipshit:
To him, NOTHING is true unless the Official Site tells him so...

Hey Dick, you say you too are anxiously awaiting Drew's report, WHY???
So you can tell Drew to 'stop with the innuendos and specualtions' too?
Holy SHit, this interview WON'T be on the Official Site???
Oh no, can it be true??? There's no possibile way!!!

See my point, NutCheese?

You're a walking contradiction and quite the thread-killa at BT now; at least us bottom-feeders aren't the only ones getting sick of your candyass... You want your 'source' so bad, since you keep posting about it everywhere, your source is RIGHT IN HERE, Corky
Hell, in the past 2 days there have been enufff little snippets from the peeps that DO know what's going on that any reasonable intelligent 6 yo could figure it out.

Eric,
Nancy, er, Dick won't answer; he's too busy moderating his own shitty site and tallying up his latest H2H scores...

Here's a great H2H idea:

What should Ol' Rich forever be known as from here on out at MR???

DICK or NANCY???

Let the voting begin and PLEASE add reasons why you've made the choice you have

[jrnysc]

Hey Richie,

Can you please just keep your mouth shut until Andrew provides an official statement next week.

You refuse to answer questions here I know, but you have just one week of BS left...

Here's the funniest part about that dipshit:
To him, NOTHING is true unless the Official Site tells him so...

Hey Dick, you say you too are anxiously awaiting Drew's report, WHY???
So you can tell Drew to 'stop with the innuendos and specualtions' too?
Holy SHit, this interview WON'T be on the Official Site???
Oh no, can it be true??? There's no possibile way!!!

See my point, NutCheese?

You're a walking contradiction and quite the thread-killa at BT now; at least us bottom-feeders aren't the only ones getting sick of your candyass... You want your 'source' so bad, since you keep posting about it everywhere, your source is RIGHT IN HERE, Corky
Hell, in the past 2 days there have been enufff little snippets from the peeps that DO know what's going on that any reasonable intelligent 6 yo could figure it out.

Eric,
Nancy, er, Dick won't answer; he's too busy moderating his own shitty site and tallying up his latest H2H scores...

Here's a great H2H idea:

What should Ol' Rich forever be known as from here on out at MR???

DICK or NANCY???

Let the voting begin and PLEASE add reasons why you've made the choice you have

Please tell me this is not the head to head guy from another well known site, because that would mean he has read all the info here, and perhaps should not have trashed me somewhere else this morning, for reasons non-deserving........

[SteveForever]

Ladies and Gentlemen I give you: Jr. High
What is this all about? Okay so you wear size 12's and he's a size 8, is he prey? has this become a bounty hunter site? I'm not taking up for her/him, but come on.....it sounds like you want to beat him with a chain! Are people snorting entire contents of a veterinary pharmacy at this place now? What's real here and what's make-believe? Run-- run for your life....you poor soul before you are pistol whipped

[Eric]

[/quote] Please tell me this is not the head to head guy from another well known site, because that would mean he has read all the info here, and perhaps should not have trashed me somewhere else this morning, for reasons non-deserving........ [/quote]

The one, and fortunately only...

[jrnysc]

Please tell me this is not the head to head guy from another well known site, because that would mean he has read all the info here, and perhaps should not have trashed me somewhere else this morning, for reasons non-deserving........ [/quote]

The one, and fortunately only...[/quote]

Well well well.....How about that? Anyway, how about Andrew from melodicrock.com has all the jewels, and he won't be speculating when he announces what a blind man can see by now. And how about those who put this site down having to live with the fact that the man they trust to release their official information doesn't even work for their own official site? That says tons IMO.

[Eric]

I just don't get why Nancy takes it so personally.....

[Carlitto H@kk]

Please tell me this is not the head to head guy from another well known site, because that would mean he has read all the info here, and perhaps should not have trashed me somewhere else this morning, for reasons non-deserving........

Yepper Depper Pepper!
Rich IS Dick or Nancy or even Corky since I used that one too

Shocking isn't it?

So what did that fuck say about you over there?
hard to follow nowadays; every thread he posts in now gets yanked and closed because of his self-righteous Buffoonary and AssClownary

[jrnysc]

Please tell me this is not the head to head guy from another well known site, because that would mean he has read all the info here, and perhaps should not have trashed me somewhere else this morning, for reasons non-deserving........

Yepper Depper Pepper!
Rich IS Dick or Nancy or even Corky since I used that one too

Shocking isn't it?

So what did that fuck say about you over there?
hard to follow nowadays; every thread he posts in now gets yanked and closed because of his self-righteous Buffoonary and AssClownary

Well, it was the first post for me since May. I was simply informing people to be patient, because in a few days all questions, fears, speculation, and answers would be provided. I complimented Andrew and said he deserved the right to be the one to make these announcements since he has been doing it since the Perry days. I also said it was all but confirmed JSS would be permanent, and there were talks of a new album. I finished by saying Journeys future is so bright Neal had to wear shades. He came back and asked where my inside information was, and hwo all these people were putting down those who wanted to wait for word from the 'official" site. I did nothing of the sort. Just trying to give folks a little info. He then made a totally seperate thread, and even his own were telling him to shut up. Anyone who knows me here knows I don't stir crap. The post was deleted within 30 minutes. Anything that comes from Andrew is not speculation in my book, and then to find out he is among us is really something. As far as I'm concerned, Andrew is Journey's official spokesman, and deserves to be.

[larryfromnextdoor]

"Lets take a dive, carlitto hakk , and feel alive, carlitto hakk
Lets take a dive, carlitto hakk, and feel alive
Come on, get your feet wet"


stuck in my brain!!!!! cant get rid of it!!

[NealIsGod]

As far as I'm concerned, Andrew is Journey's official spokesman, and deserves to be.

Deano may take offense with that.

[yulog]

Please tell me this is not the head to head guy from another well known site, because that would mean he has read all the info here, and perhaps should not have trashed me somewhere else this morning, for reasons non-deserving........

Yepper Depper Pepper!
Rich IS Dick or Nancy or even Corky since I used that one too

Shocking isn't it?

So what did that fuck say about you over there?
hard to follow nowadays; every thread he posts in now gets yanked and closed because of his self-righteous Buffoonary and AssClownary

Well, it was the first post for me since May. I was simply informing people to be patient, because in a few days all questions, fears, speculation, and answers would be provided. I complimented Andrew and said he deserved the right to be the one to make these announcements since he has been doing it since the Perry days. I also said it was all but confirmed JSS would be permanent, and there were talks of a new album. I finished by saying Journeys future is so bright Neal had to wear shades. He came back and asked where my inside information was, and hwo all these people were putting down those who wanted to wait for word from the 'official" site. I did nothing of the sort. Just trying to give folks a little info. He then made a totally seperate thread, and even his own were telling him to shut up. Anyone who knows me here knows I don't stir crap. The post was deleted within 30 minutes, and one of the mods posted some shit about his baby with a pacifier. Needless to say my last post there. Anything that comes from Andrew is not speculation in my book, and then to find out he is among us is really something. As far as I'm concerned, Andrew is Journey's official spokesman, and deserves to be.

dont feel bad they are deleting everything over there i did a post over there with this picture



and didnt write anything, it followed someone elses comment to a moderator about getting news from here(his comment was a bit sarcastic) well they deleted my picture but kept his post-------too funny, imagine if i wrote something

[jrnysc]

As far as I'm concerned, Andrew is Journey's official spokesman, and deserves to be.

Deano may take offense with that.

Dang I did it again. Deano asked me yesterday if he was chopped liver. Deano knows both he and Andrew are ok in my book. I simply meant Journey management gave Andrew the ok to release the 'official' info.

[jrnysc]

Please tell me this is not the head to head guy from another well known site, because that would mean he has read all the info here, and perhaps should not have trashed me somewhere else this morning, for reasons non-deserving........

Yepper Depper Pepper!
Rich IS Dick or Nancy or even Corky since I used that one too

Shocking isn't it?

So what did that fuck say about you over there?
hard to follow nowadays; every thread he posts in now gets yanked and closed because of his self-righteous Buffoonary and AssClownary

Well, it was the first post for me since May. I was simply informing people to be patient, because in a few days all questions, fears, speculation, and answers would be provided. I complimented Andrew and said he deserved the right to be the one to make these announcements since he has been doing it since the Perry days. I also said it was all but confirmed JSS would be permanent, and there were talks of a new album. I finished by saying Journeys future is so bright Neal had to wear shades. He came back and asked where my inside information was, and hwo all these people were putting down those who wanted to wait for word from the 'official" site. I did nothing of the sort. Just trying to give folks a little info. He then made a totally seperate thread, and even his own were telling him to shut up. Anyone who knows me here knows I don't stir crap. The post was deleted within 30 minutes, and one of the mods posted some shit about his baby with a pacifier. Needless to say my last post there. Anything that comes from Andrew is not speculation in my book, and then to find out he is among us is really something. As far as I'm concerned, Andrew is Journey's official spokesman, and deserves to be.

dont feel bad they are deleting everything over there i did a post over there with this picture



and didnt write anything, it followed someone elses comment to a moderator about getting news from here(his comment was a bit sarcastic) well they deleted my picture but kept his post-------too funny, imagine if i wrote something

I know Andrew doesn't want us talking about 'the other place' here, but lastly I will say that place may go up in flames next week.........

[Eric]

The official site has its purpose - promo for the band....and I'm not going to bash it.

What I don't get is the jealousy of some like Nancy whenever Andrew has information. Even CJ will admit that journeymusic.com isn't necessarily going to be "first" with every little tidbit.

It isn't a competition. But Nancy feels its his role to stand up for some fictional official Journey stance, which to be honest doesn't exist. There isn't this heirachy of management that he seems to think there is.

He is by far the most annoying creep I've ever come across.

[fred_journeyman]

Ladies and Gentlemen I give you: Jr. High
What is this all about? Okay so you wear size 12's and he's a size 8, is he prey? has this become a bounty hunter site? I'm not taking up for her/him, but come on.....it sounds like you want to beat him with a chain! Are people snorting entire contents of a veterinary pharmacy at this place now? What's real here and what's make-believe? Run-- run for your life....you poor soul before you are pistol whipped

You know, the interesting thing (at least to me) is that over at BT, you're supposed to "tow the party line," or you'll get canned.

Here, there's a party line too. If you don't tow it, you may not get canned, but everyone who opposes it decides it's their job to vomit all over you.

Not long ago, someone came to this site from that other site saying how great it was that they could post whatever they wanted here. I intoned that if you didn't mind your opinion being trashed if it was disagreed with, then this was the place. The response from that person was something to the effect that he'd rather be told his opinion is crap than have be told (oh so politely) that he couldn't post his dissenting opinion over there.

Told your opinion is crap? Your OPINION is crap? Not facts, but OPINION?

Does anyone else NOT see that these are simply TWO sides to the same coin? Apparently there are those HERE who believe ANY opinion NOT shared by them is open season and not only do they have the right to disagree with it, but they also (somehow) possess the right to make the most idiotic, asinine, crap-filled statements ABOUT the person, not just the person's OPINION. How did THAT happen?

It happened because Deano got the lip-sync'g thing right and now he is Andrew's god, therefore Deano can spew as much as he wants to and only when he crosses some line (that is apparently constantly moving) does Andrew step in with a warning, and possibly a vacation.

Recently, all I saw was Andrew sucking up to Deano for all he was worth because of some supposed mistep that Andrew did toward Deano.

This is absurd. There is no freedom of speech or thought here and certainly the "rules of debate" are not followed. The only rule that seems to be followed is one person trying to outdo another person with caustic remarks.

Andrew, I suggest you rename this forum to "Journey's Animal House." Deano can be Bluto and the rest of us can be fodder for his dislike of anything that doesn't square with his view of Journey. Somehow I find that John Belushi's Bluto is much more compelling and interesting...as opposed to Deano's "I'm going to shit here now, then I'm going to shit over there. Now I think I'll shit here again" while his wannabe followers act like lap dogs trying to eat his shit faster than the next person to prove their worth in Deano's eyes.

Better yet, why not rename it "Journey's Outhouse," or "Journey's Shitter"? Probably more accurate.

Have at it, people. Deano's shitting enough for all of you. Enjoy your dinner folks. Deano, from the conversations we've had in the past, both on the forum and via PM, I've gotten the strong impression that you were a great deal smarter than this.

Talk about a freakin' crowd mentality...

[Eric]

Lighten up Freddy...geez

[jrnyman28]

Fred's got a valid point. Many tout that you can say what you want here...and you can. But that does not mean your opinions are any more respected here. And your 'right to voice your opinion' should have a disclaimer about being prepared to be told how wrong your opinion is. TNC is even taking Andrew to task about the single vocalist theory. And I have gone rounds with TNC in the past. I know how he posts. He is merely entering debate, but as I have told him before, he has a way of sounding like he is saying 'you are wrong and I am right' to Andrew. And that is the mentality here often...

[fred_journeyman]

Lighten up Freddy...geez

Shove it, Eric.

[fred_journeyman]

But that does not mean your opinions are any more respected here.

Bingo. We're talking about OPINIONS, not FACTS.

[Eric]

Who cares if someone tells you that you are stupid or wrong? You still get to say it, defend it and argue back...

[RossValoryRocks]

Who cares if someone tells you that you are stupid or wrong? You still get to say it, defend it and argue back...

You are stupid and wrong! LOL Sorry couldn't resist...

[jrnyman28]

Who cares if someone tells you that you are stupid or wrong? You still get to say it, defend it and argue back...

It gets tiring. I shouldn't have to defend my opinions...they should be accepted whether anyone agrees or not.

Yes, you still get to say it...which is a step better than BT. But instead of a mod telling me not to say something, I have another poster telling me I am stupid for saying it.

I post here, I post there, I post on forums that are even stricter than BT and I post in places that are far worse than here. I can adapt to the board, simple as that.

[ArnelRox]

I have gone rounds with TNC in the past. I know how he posts. He is merely entering debate, but as I have told him before, he has a way of sounding like he is saying 'you are wrong and I am right' to Andrew. And that is the mentality here often...

It must be the way u discussed things w/TNC jrnyman28 b/c I've had a lot of discussion & debate w/TNC myself via PM. He is a very reasonable, interesting & intellectual person. He doesn't at all act like he's right & ur wrong, unless he IS right & UR wrong, but even then, if discussed reasonably, he's very charming about it. TNC is, in my opinion, one of the most interesting posters here. There are, of course, several others that make this forum interesting.

Like so much else here, I think a lot has to do w/the way things are handled & the approach taken. If u come across like an asshole, most people here hand it back to u. But if ur reasonable, most (excluding macca lookalikes) are reasonable back & allow u respect for ur own opinions (after of course, u have posted a few times to prove ur not a troll).

[jrnyman28]

I am not trying to attack TNC. I have also had plenty of PM convos with him. He IS all you say. BUT he can also come off as self-rightous...as does Deano. Like I said, I understand the way TNC posts and I only mentioned him because a fresh example came to mind because of his 'debate' with Andrew on the multiple singer issue.

But please try to imagine being a new poster on this board and having to eal with TNC, Deano and a few others. You have gotten to "know" TNC (as have I) but some people are going to give it the time to do so because of the general mentality of this board. This board says you can say what you want...but does not truly respect that idea. In fact, I would say many posters here take complete advantage of it.

[brywool]

... it was on a night just like this.
5 Years ago...
It was
The worst accident I ever seen.

Like a garbage truck that kept rolling over and over and over...
And when they pulled the body from the wreckage, it looked something

Like

THIS!



Tell em, "Large Marge Sent Ya!!!- HEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEEE!!!!"

[ArnelRox]

I am not trying to attack TNC. I have also had plenty of PM convos with him. He IS all you say. BUT he can also come off as self-rightous...as does Deano. Like I said, I understand the way TNC posts and I only mentioned him because a fresh example came to mind because of his 'debate' with Andrew on the multiple singer issue.

But please try to imagine being a new poster on this board and having to eal with TNC, Deano and a few others. You have gotten to "know" TNC (as have I) but some people are going to give it the time to do so because of the general mentality of this board. This board says you can say what you want...but does not truly respect that idea. In fact, I would say many posters here take complete advantage of it.

I was a new poster on this board & I didn't find TNC problematic or offensive or self righteous. In fact, he was always reasonable. I was terrified of Dean as a new poster here. I saw how he could go off on people & do it in a way that others took his side but I noticed he only seemed to do it when there was some cause to do so. Again, that might have to do w/approach. He didn't ever go off on me, interestingly enough. Maybe I never said anything to give him cause? Having talked to Dean privately, I realized very quickly that he's a great guy & as he says himself, the ultimate fan. So far, there has only ever been one person on this board who has gone off on me. But he's anything but reasonable. TNC & Dean are reasonable IMHO. They just don't suffer fools who post as if they know it all & are talking a load of crap.

[Wildfire]

Ladies and Gentlemen I give you: Jr. High
What is this all about? Okay so you wear size 12's and he's a size 8, is he prey? has this become a bounty hunter site? I'm not taking up for her/him, but come on.....it sounds like you want to beat him with a chain! Are people snorting entire contents of a veterinary pharmacy at this place now? What's real here and what's make-believe? Run-- run for your life....you poor soul before you are pistol whipped

You know, the interesting thing (at least to me) is that over at BT, you're supposed to "tow the party line," or you'll get canned.

Here, there's a party line too. If you don't tow it, you may not get canned, but everyone who opposes it decides it's their job to vomit all over you.

Not long ago, someone came to this site from that other site saying how great it was that they could post whatever they wanted here. I intoned that if you didn't mind your opinion being trashed if it was disagreed with, then this was the place. The response from that person was something to the effect that he'd rather be told his opinion is crap than have be told (oh so politely) that he couldn't post his dissenting opinion over there.

Told your opinion is crap? Your OPINION is crap? Not facts, but OPINION?

Does anyone else NOT see that these are simply TWO sides to the same coin? Apparently there are those HERE who believe ANY opinion NOT shared by them is open season and not only do they have the right to disagree with it, but they also (somehow) possess the right to make the most idiotic, asinine, crap-filled statements ABOUT the person, not just the person's OPINION. How did THAT happen?

It happened because Deano got the lip-sync'g thing right and now he is Andrew's god, therefore Deano can spew as much as he wants to and only when he crosses some line (that is apparently constantly moving) does Andrew step in with a warning, and possibly a vacation.

Recently, all I saw was Andrew sucking up to Deano for all he was worth because of some supposed mistep that Andrew did toward Deano.

This is absurd. There is no freedom of speech or thought here and certainly the "rules of debate" are not followed. The only rule that seems to be followed is one person trying to outdo another person with caustic remarks.

Andrew, I suggest you rename this forum to "Journey's Animal House." Deano can be Bluto and the rest of us can be fodder for his dislike of anything that doesn't square with his view of Journey. Somehow I find that John Belushi's Bluto is much more compelling and interesting...as opposed to Deano's "I'm going to shit here now, then I'm going to shit over there. Now I think I'll shit here again" while his wannabe followers act like lap dogs trying to eat his shit faster than the next person to prove their worth in Deano's eyes.

Better yet, why not rename it "Journey's Outhouse," or "Journey's Shitter"? Probably more accurate.

Have at it, people. Deano's shitting enough for all of you. Enjoy your dinner folks. Deano, from the conversations we've had in the past, both on the forum and via PM, I've gotten the strong impression that you were a great deal smarter than this.

Talk about a freakin' crowd mentality...

Fred is absolutely right about this place. It's like a train wreak you can't avoid looking at. I love this place and hate it at the same time.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Dave-
Andrew knows my pointed jabs were made in good fun.
C'mon, we're all a bunch of obssesive geeky fanboys in here!
Haven't u ever partaken in a spirited debate with like-minded compatriots over something u were equally passionate on?

Try to see it my way; it'd be like u debating which of the Lachey bros. you'd most want to pillage your anus.