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OK....first up, for all you Drummers out there....

WHY are Octoban Drums obsolete??

OK...more detail:

We got back from "Guitar Center" to pick up Mark's new set of "TAMA" Octobans.

According to one of the guys there, Octobans are now "dinosaur"...

....To which I throw a Yellow Flag, and yell, "FOUL!!"

THEY KICK ASS!!

Why is this??

OK:

A visual of Octoban Drums:



Just think Neil Peart; Stewart Copeland...you'll get the idea....

Simon Phillips still uses them. I think they sound cool.

As for Guitar Center, I think this about sums it up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDF_8-21SUQ

JDouglee wrote:Simon Phillips still uses them. I think they sound cool.

Hey there...

Thanx for posting

...thought I was hangin' on a limb, here...

Seriously...any "lurkers" out there...if you ARE Drummers...I'd love to hear what you think....

much success with this thread nora found this,,,,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octoban

They're NOT obselete as far as I can tell. You can still purchase them:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=440139

They look and sound very cool!

JDouglee wrote:Simon Phillips still uses them. I think they sound cool.

As for Guitar Center, I think this about sums it up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDF_8-21SUQ

..and I should listen to grown people dressed in ANIMAL COSTUMES because....?

tragchk wrote:

JDouglee wrote:
As for Guitar Center, I think this about sums it up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDF_8-21SUQ

..and I should listen to grown people dressed in ANIMAL COSTUMES because....?

...Because they are right. Two minutes with a GC salesman can confirm this.

JDouglee wrote:

tragchk wrote:

JDouglee wrote:
As for Guitar Center, I think this about sums it up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDF_8-21SUQ

..and I should listen to grown people dressed in ANIMAL COSTUMES because....?

...Because they are right. Two minutes with a GC salesman can confirm this.

Dude, whatever....it IS America, you're allowed to your opinion...

But the staff there got Mark a SWEET set of Octos - BETTER than his originals.

So, whatever.....

fred_journeyman wrote:They're NOT obselete as far as I can tell. You can still purchase them:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=440139

They look and sound very cool!

Hey Fred....thanx for this...

This IS the set Mark ordered:



Deeper pitch....he's playing them right now....GOD they're cool!!!

Well, congrats to your drummer.

I prefer to spend my cash at smaller stores where they actually know about what they sell.
GC is a successful corporation, good for them. Their goal is to squash the mom & pop stores,
and take over the world. I don't feel right helping them with that.

Oh yeah...just so you know:

This is open for ALL MUSICIANS ~ with ANY questions / comments / stories you may have...

...much like Liam's "Booze" thread...heehee...

tragchk wrote:

Deeper pitch....he's playing them right now....GOD they're cool!!!

Man, they look great. How much did the set cost?

fred_journeyman wrote:

tragchk wrote:

Deeper pitch....he's playing them right now....GOD they're cool!!!

Man, they look great. How much did the set cost?

Well, without the trade-in of Mark's old Octos (which were the smaller version), it would've been $600.00

BUT ~ since they were COOL and accepted his TRADE-IN, PLUS other equipment, it only came to: $400 and change.

Not a drummer here but a guitar player. Proud owner of a Neal Schon signature Les Paul -- an amazing instument. The sustainer in the guitar is incredible. I'm currently gigging 3-4 times per month and loving it.

Never played with a drummer that used octos. They remind me of long stacked roto toms but must sound much deeper I'm guessing. There must be a few musicians that frequent this forum. I noticed in one of the Baltimore party pics that AR had a Marshall combo up against the wall.

Gibby wrote:Not a drummer here but a guitar player. Proud owner of a Neal Schon signature Les Paul -- an amazing instument. The sustainer in the guitar is incredible. I'm currently gigging 3-4 times per month and loving it.

Never played with a drummer that used octos. They remind me of long stacked roto toms but must sound much deeper I'm guessing. There must be a few musicians that frequent this forum. I noticed in one of the Baltimore party pics that AR had a Marshall combo up against the wall.

gibby, can you tell me the weight on the signature schon les paul??

tragchk wrote:BUT ~ since they were COOL and accepted his TRADE-IN, PLUS other equipment, it only came to: $400 and change.

Nice. Why did he trade in his other ones, out of curiousity (or did he trade in something ELSE for these)?

fred_journeyman wrote:

tragchk wrote:BUT ~ since they were COOL and accepted his TRADE-IN, PLUS other equipment, it only came to: $400 and change.

Nice. Why did he trade in his other ones, out of curiousity (or did he trade in something ELSE for these)?

ohh geesh,, fred,, hes a drummer,, they are drums,, u trade in the other ones because they aint the right color... ect.... they are drums for crying out loud..... now guitars are a horse of a different color,, sometimes we trade in because of.. well ,, sometimes.......... well, the wood is different..

tragchk wrote:

fred_journeyman wrote:They're NOT obselete as far as I can tell. You can still purchase them:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=440139

They look and sound very cool!

Hey Fred....thanx for this...

This IS the set Mark ordered:



Deeper pitch....he's playing them right now....GOD they're cool!!!

My drummer has a set of these and I think they sound really unique and cool.

tragchk wrote:Oh yeah...just so you know:

This is open for ALL MUSICIANS ~ with ANY questions / comments / stories you may have...

...much like Liam's "Booze" thread...heehee...

I think I'll tentatively stick my toe in the water here and maybe get the ball rolling...this could be a legendary thread.

Let's see....I don't have anything super shocking to tell you so I'm sorry if this is kinda pathetic. lol

We were playing a Hurricane Katrina benefit (which was being recorded for radio) and our ex-singer/rhythm guitarist broke a string on the very first song sending his guitar horribly out of tune and forcing us to stop and I had to give him my guitar that I use for dropped-d tuning. (We normally tune to Eb standard.)

And later on in our set....


My volume knob fell off my guitar. It kinda dropped off into my hand. I dropped the volume knob in a safe place on stage where I thought no one would step on it or anything and finished the song.

Then came our closing song. I picked up the volume knob and had to pound it pretty hard against the guitar to get it to stay. We started the song and *CLLALNGGNR* I was out of tune. BADLY. I had no time to stop and retune and just tried to compensate as best I could.

And wouldn't you know it....they ended up using that track in the radio broadcast. Major cringe moment.

There's my little "starting things off" story. Let's hear everybody else's.

this pretty cool,,,,,,drummer and piano edited........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzqumbhfxRo

tragchk wrote:OK....first up, for all you Drummers out there....

WHY are Octoban Drums obsolete??

They are not. Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater uses them. There are many other prog rock drummers that use them.

Now, Roto-Toms...those should stay obsolete.

Im a poor drummer, my set is pretty much my church's yamaha electric set....which sucks...

LarryFromNextDoor wrote:ohh geesh,, fred,, hes a drummer,, they are drums,, u trade in the other ones because they aint the right color... ect.... they are drums for crying out loud..... now guitars are a horse of a different color,, sometimes we trade in because of.. well ,, sometimes.......... well, the wood is different..

Yeah, but I've never traded anything for something else, with my kit. I usually just ADD to what I have.

Hey, how many drummers out there have dropped sticks during an important moment in a song? I have...and it STILL freaks me out! I know nearly every drummer from time to time drops a stick, but it's incredible to see drummers like Peart or whomever, simply glance down, pick up another stick, keep going without even missing a beat.

I manage to keep going, but I don't like the feeling of not having a stick in one of my hands (usually my right) even for a split second!

LarryFromNextDoor wrote:

Gibby wrote:Not a drummer here but a guitar player. Proud owner of a Neal Schon signature Les Paul -- an amazing instument. The sustainer in the guitar is incredible. I'm currently gigging 3-4 times per month and loving it.

Never played with a drummer that used octos. They remind me of long stacked roto toms but must sound much deeper I'm guessing. There must be a few musicians that frequent this forum. I noticed in one of the Baltimore party pics that AR had a Marshall combo up against the wall.

gibby, can you tell me the weight on the signature schon les paul??

It's heavy -- 10.5 lbs. Once it's strapped on I really don't notice it - even after a 4 hour gig.

Gibby wrote:

LarryFromNextDoor wrote:

Gibby wrote:Not a drummer here but a guitar player. Proud owner of a Neal Schon signature Les Paul -- an amazing instument. The sustainer in the guitar is incredible. I'm currently gigging 3-4 times per month and loving it.

Never played with a drummer that used octos. They remind me of long stacked roto toms but must sound much deeper I'm guessing. There must be a few musicians that frequent this forum. I noticed in one of the Baltimore party pics that AR had a Marshall combo up against the wall.

gibby, can you tell me the weight on the signature schon les paul??

It's heavy -- 10.5 lbs. Once it's strapped on I really don't notice it - even after a 4 hour gig.

I've never played a Les Paul but I do have a Strat. I've heard that Les Pauls are very light compared to Strats. Is that true, because I think mine easily ways more than 10.5 lbs.

My Epiphone Les Paul is cosiderably heavier than my Strat. If I play it for a long time standing up my shoulder gets a bit sore from the weight of the guitar.

low d wrote:

tragchk wrote:OK....first up, for all you Drummers out there....

WHY are Octoban Drums obsolete??

They are not. Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater uses them. There are many other prog rock drummers that use them.

Now, Roto-Toms...those should stay obsolete.

Hey, low d...

Are those the "octagon-looking" electric drums that Prince always used?

They had that creepy, mechanical sound to them....but, they fit Prince to at "T" (if that's what they are).

I sing and play a pretty mean Crescent-tambourine...."fire engine Red", of course...


I also play Keyboards, and Fred ~ I can TOTALLY relate (keyboard-wise) to "dropping a stick":

We used to play "Where The Streets Have No Name", by U2....and GUESS WHO had to learn the Keys AND sing??

Well, long story short.....I COMPLETELY MANGLED the beginning "Church Organ" thing so bad one night, that we had to start the song over:oops:

I managed to joke my way out of it....I said, "Yup....and THAT'S WHY I'm a SINGER!" LOL

LarryFromNextDoor wrote:

fred_journeyman wrote:

tragchk wrote:BUT ~ since they were COOL and accepted his TRADE-IN, PLUS other equipment, it only came to: $400 and change.

Nice. Why did he trade in his other ones, out of curiousity (or did he trade in something ELSE for these)?

ohh geesh,, fred,, hes a drummer,, they are drums,, u trade in the other ones because they aint the right color... ect.... they are drums for crying out loud..... now guitars are a horse of a different color,, sometimes we trade in because of.. well ,, sometimes.......... well, the wood is different..

Lar, you completely crack me up

Fred, to answer your question:

He traded his High-Pitch Octos and a Foot-Cowbell & Pedal (he got kinda inspired and "carried away" after the "Modern Drummer" thing....but he didn't like it )