Why I don't think Augeri should stay in Journey

[ArnelRox]

No fancy explanations. Live audience boots. Not altered. For former singers, from the early & late parts of their tenure. For JSS, 2 boots from this yr. One song: Wheel In The Sky (I can give u other songs if u need them):

Steve Perry: http://download.yousendit.com/9049122C7E6BDDE1
or: http://download.yousendit.com/64525E8C4125D11B
From: 1978 & 1986 respectively

Steve Augeri: http://download.yousendit.com/6D96AF990534475A
or: http://download.yousendit.com/C168739938360CFD
From: 1999 & 2006 respectively.

Jeff Scott Soto: http://download.yousendit.com/81B5BE98535FF972
or: http://download.yousendit.com/1C3D994501CDF5B2
From: 2006

[McNeil]

No fancy explanations. Live audience boots. Not altered. For former singers, from the early & late parts of their tenure. For JSS, 2 boots from this yr. One song: Wheel In The Sky (I can give u other songs if u need them):

Steve Perry: http://download.yousendit.com/9049122C7E6BDDE1
or: http://download.yousendit.com/64525E8C4125D11B
From: 1978 & 1986 respectively

Steve Augeri: http://download.yousendit.com/6D96AF990534475A
or: http://download.yousendit.com/C168739938360CFD
From: 1999 & 2006 respectively.

Jeff Scott Soto: http://download.yousendit.com/81B5BE98535FF972
or: http://download.yousendit.com/1C3D994501CDF5B2
From: 2006

Have to agree JR... mentally fought against it for a while.... but , singing aside, beginning to believe that Mr Augeri is not quite the "sugar coateds" nice guy we all once thought he was!!

[pdsidd]

No fancy explanations. Live audience boots. Not altered. For former singers, from the early & late parts of their tenure. For JSS, 2 boots from this yr. One song: Wheel In The Sky (I can give u other songs if u need them):

Steve Perry: http://download.yousendit.com/9049122C7E6BDDE1
or: http://download.yousendit.com/64525E8C4125D11B
From: 1978 & 1986 respectively

Steve Augeri: http://download.yousendit.com/6D96AF990534475A
or: http://download.yousendit.com/C168739938360CFD
From: 1999 & 2006 respectively.

Jeff Scott Soto: http://download.yousendit.com/81B5BE98535FF972
or: http://download.yousendit.com/1C3D994501CDF5B2
From: 2006

Have to agree JR... mentally fought against it for a while.... but , singing aside, beginning to believe that Mr Augeri is not quite the "sugar coateds" nice guy we all once thought he was!!

Think he was just a very good singer in a rock and roll band who did some great material e.g. signs of life. shame everyone wants to bury his reputation.

[Enigma869]

No fancy explanations. Live audience boots. Not altered. For former singers, from the early & late parts of their tenure. For JSS, 2 boots from this yr. One song: Wheel In The Sky (I can give u other songs if u need them):

Steve Perry: http://download.yousendit.com/9049122C7E6BDDE1
or: http://download.yousendit.com/64525E8C4125D11B
From: 1978 & 1986 respectively

Steve Augeri: http://download.yousendit.com/6D96AF990534475A
or: http://download.yousendit.com/C168739938360CFD
From: 1999 & 2006 respectively.

Jeff Scott Soto: http://download.yousendit.com/81B5BE98535FF972
or: http://download.yousendit.com/1C3D994501CDF5B2
From: 2006

JR...

That's pretty compelling stuff. Honestly, I don't know how anyone who calls themselves an Augeri fan could listen to that and not walk away shaking their head, as I did! I'm certainly not faulting the guy, because I don't think it's his fault his voice is shot. That said, there is NO possible way anyone could listen to that and not come away thinking the guy's voice is toast! Singing Perry songs will do that to most accomplished singers! I'd love to hear three versions of Faithfully, if you have them!!!! Thanks for posting those!


John from Boston

[wildone]

wow no wonder why steve p is number one in alot of fans eyes his version was killin them the other 2 didn't even compare........poor Journey!!

[Vladan]

As great as JSS and SA are and were! nobody can compare with Steve Perry - FACT.

[Melissa]

As great as JSS and SA are and were! nobody can compare with Steve Perry - FACT.

Agreed, no one can come close to Perry, voice incredible beyond words.

But for me, JSS's voice is just an incredible. JMHO.

[jrnysc]

As great as JSS and SA are and were! nobody can compare with Steve Perry - FACT.

Agreed, no one can come close to Perry, voice incredible beyond words.

But for me, JSS's voice is just an incredible. JMHO.

I agree. And, Journey with JSS has an 'energy' live that reminds me of the Perry days.

[jrnyjetster]

As great as JSS and SA are and were! nobody can compare with Steve Perry - FACT.

Steve Perry can't compare to Steve Perry anymore...

[heardonthestreet]

[quote="wildone"]wow no wonder why steve p is number one in alot of fans eyes his version was killin them the other 2 didn't even compare........poor Journey!![/quote


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Thanks! I'm glad that someone understands. Until the day that someone else comes along, who I think is as good as or better, I'll string along with Perry.

[heardonthestreet]

As great as JSS and SA are and were! nobody can compare with Steve Perry - FACT.

Steve Perry can't compare to Steve Perry anymore...

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No one know's that for sure. He just might be better than ever. Many in the know, have said as much.

[EightyRock]

"Jrnyjester said: "Steve Perry can't compare to Steve Perry anymore..."

Is that what you'll be saying about Jeff in a couple years?

Try to look at the entire picture...every time Journey plays a gig and one of Perry's co-written songs, it shows that no singer before or since can compare to him. He has nothing to prove to you, me or anybody else. Augeri and Soto on the other hand, had (and have) much to prove as far as what their legacy in Journey will be. Next time you want to throw out an insult, try throwing it at the lipper instead.

[donnaplease]

"Jrnyjester said: "Steve Perry can't compare to Steve Perry anymore..."

Is that what you'll be saying about Jeff in a couple years?

Try to look at the entire picture...every time Journey plays a gig and one of Perry's co-written songs, it shows that no singer before or since can compare to him. He has nothing to prove to you, me or anybody else. Augeri and Soto on the other hand, had (and have) much to prove as far as what their legacy in Journey will be. Next time you want to throw out an insult, try throwing it at the lipper instead.

Well, he certainly doesn't have to prove anything to us, but I for one would certainly love to see him do it!!!!! I don't think that was meant to be an insult to SP, just stating a fact that I believe Steve Perry himself would agree to. And that's okay, we all know he doesn't have the range he once had, but I'm sure he could still knock us out with his performance anyway!!!! I'm ready, anyone else...?

[heardonthestreet]

"Jrnyjester said: "Steve Perry can't compare to Steve Perry anymore..."

Is that what you'll be saying about Jeff in a couple years?

Try to look at the entire picture...every time Journey plays a gig and one of Perry's co-written songs, it shows that no singer before or since can compare to him. He has nothing to prove to you, me or anybody else. Augeri and Soto on the other hand, had (and have) much to prove as far as what their legacy in Journey will be. Next time you want to throw out an insult, try throwing it at the lipper instead.

Well, he certainly doesn't have to prove anything to us, but I for one would certainly love to see him do it!!!!! I don't think that was meant to be an insult to SP, just stating a fact that I believe Steve Perry himself would agree to. And that's okay, we all know he doesn't have the range he once had, but I'm sure he could still knock us out with his performance anyway!!!! I'm ready, anyone else...?

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I doubt that Perry would agree to that, Donna. He may sing on a different level with his more mature, mellow voice and it just might sound better than ever. We don't know. Some of his friends have stated that he is better than ever. If people have an opinion, it should be stated as an opinion, not as a fact.

[donnaplease]

"Jrnyjester said: "Steve Perry can't compare to Steve Perry anymore..."

Is that what you'll be saying about Jeff in a couple years?

Try to look at the entire picture...every time Journey plays a gig and one of Perry's co-written songs, it shows that no singer before or since can compare to him. He has nothing to prove to you, me or anybody else. Augeri and Soto on the other hand, had (and have) much to prove as far as what their legacy in Journey will be. Next time you want to throw out an insult, try throwing it at the lipper instead.

Well, he certainly doesn't have to prove anything to us, but I for one would certainly love to see him do it!!!!! I don't think that was meant to be an insult to SP, just stating a fact that I believe Steve Perry himself would agree to. And that's okay, we all know he doesn't have the range he once had, but I'm sure he could still knock us out with his performance anyway!!!! I'm ready, anyone else...?

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I doubt that Perry would agree to that, Donna. He may sing on a different level with his more mature, mellow voice and it just might sound better than ever. We don't know. Some of his friends have stated that he is better than ever. If people have an opinion, it should be stated as an opinion, not as a fact.

I love Steve Perry as much as anyone, but to think that he still has the ability to sing like he did 25 years ago is probably not realistic!! It's not an insult, just physiology. What friends have said he's better than ever?? I haven't read or heard that, but I'd sure like to. So if you've got a link to that (not just someone saying how great he sounds, but that he can now sing better than he ever could before) I'd love to hear it. Otherwise, please don't scold me for sharing my views on the subject. I haven't done that to you, and I'd appreciate the same from you.

[ArnelRox]

I'd love to hear three versions of Faithfully, if you have them!!!!

I don't have a version of Jeff singing Faithfully. Except for 1 or 2 shows, Deen has sang it this tour. I'll put up a version of Deen doing it. He has a beautiful voice. It's interesting to compare these singers like this. If anyone has Jeff singing it, maybe they would put it up.

Perry:

1983: http://download.yousendit.com/5F6311917FE78863

1986: http://download.yousendit.com/24CAE29D69334871

Augeri:

1999: http://download.yousendit.com/BD4748937D83A119

2006: http://download.yousendit.com/5B03CA967B64934A

Castronovo:

2006: http://download.yousendit.com/8FF6F99F664FCD81

[jrnyjetster]

When or IF Steve Perry ever decides to come out of his retirement shell, then we won't know...will we? I stand by my last statement and I don't give a shit who it upsets.

[ArnelRox]

What friends have said he's better than ever?? I haven't read or heard that, but I'd sure like to. So if you've got a link to that (not just someone saying how great he sounds, but that he can now sing better than he ever could before) I'd love to hear it.

I don't have a link to it Donna but Uncle Joe Benson said Perry's singing voice is as good now as it was in the 80s. That's not saying better than ever before tho.

[Melissa]

Jeff singing a bit of "Faithfully", not with Journey though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8xtYLuDvOE

[Saint John]

"Jrnyjester said: "Steve Perry can't compare to Steve Perry anymore..."

Is that what you'll be saying about Jeff in a couple years?

Try to look at the entire picture...every time Journey plays a gig and one of Perry's co-written songs, it shows that no singer before or since can compare to him. He has nothing to prove to you, me or anybody else. Augeri and Soto on the other hand, had (and have) much to prove as far as what their legacy in Journey will be. Next time you want to throw out an insult, try throwing it at the lipper instead.

Well, he certainly doesn't have to prove anything to us, but I for one would certainly love to see him do it!!!!! I don't think that was meant to be an insult to SP, just stating a fact that I believe Steve Perry himself would agree to. And that's okay, we all know he doesn't have the range he once had, but I'm sure he could still knock us out with his performance anyway!!!! I'm ready, anyone else...?

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I doubt that Perry would agree to that, Donna. He may sing on a different level with his more mature, mellow voice and it just might sound better than ever. We don't know. Some of his friends have stated that he is better than ever. If people have an opinion, it should be stated as an opinion, not as a fact.

I love Steve Perry as much as anyone, but to think that he still has the ability to sing like he did 25 years ago is probably not realistic!! It's not an insult, just physiology. What friends have said he's better than ever?? I haven't read or heard that, but I'd sure like to. So if you've got a link to that (not just someone saying how great he sounds, but that he can now sing better than he ever could before) I'd love to hear it. Otherwise, please don't scold me for sharing my views on the subject. I haven't done that to you, and I'd appreciate the same from you.

Uncle Joe stated that Perry sounds as good as he did "in the mid 80's" Uncle Joe is a pretty well respected guy who has, at times, been accused of being pretty easy on his interviewees. Regardless, Perry has been in a recording studio, per Uncle Joe. He went on to say that he was "no more than 8 feet away" and Perry was absolutely amazing. Steve perry's voice might change, but that's NEVER what made him the ARTIST he is. It's ALWAYS been about his delivery. That is, the way he was able to sing every line of every song in an emotive way that seemed to transcend music, while combining passion and song in a way no other has done before or since. Period.

[ArnelRox]

I'm certainly not faulting the guy, because I don't think it's his fault his voice is shot.

What I find interesting is how he sounded in 1999. He'd only been singing Perry for a year by then.

[donnaplease]

What friends have said he's better than ever?? I haven't read or heard that, but I'd sure like to. So if you've got a link to that (not just someone saying how great he sounds, but that he can now sing better than he ever could before) I'd love to hear it.

I don't have a link to it Donna but Uncle Joe Benson said Perry's singing voice is as good now as it was in the 80s. That's not saying better than ever before tho.

Thanks! I think I've read something like that too. I'm sure I speak for many when I say..."bring it on!!!" Let's all judge for ourselves, don't ya think...? He looks great, and I'm hoping he's feeling as great as he looks!!! I'm so hopeful for something new, and I think if he's that good then he's definitely got something in the works... None of us will know until he sings for us, though, and that's what I'm waiting for!!

[Saint John]

What friends have said he's better than ever?? I haven't read or heard that, but I'd sure like to. So if you've got a link to that (not just someone saying how great he sounds, but that he can now sing better than he ever could before) I'd love to hear it.

I don't have a link to it Donna but Uncle Joe Benson said Perry's singing voice is as good now as it was in the 80s. That's not saying better than ever before tho.

Thanks! I think I've read something like that too. I'm sure I speak for many when I say..."bring it on!!!" Let's all judge for ourselves, don't ya think...? He looks great, and I'm hoping he's feeling as great as he looks!!! I'm so hopeful for something new, and I think if he's that good then he's definitely got something in the works... None of us will know until he sings for us, though, and that's what I'm waiting for!!

Scroll up 2 posts, Donna!!!

[Melissa]

Thanks for posting Deen's "Faithfully" JRox! I needed a Deen fix!!!

I still want a live Journey cd with Jeff & Deen singing. Maybe I'll ask Santa, lol.

[ArnelRox]

Thanks! I think I've read something like that too. I'm sure I speak for many when I say..."bring it on!!!" Let's all judge for ourselves, don't ya think...? He looks great, and I'm hoping he's feeling as great as he looks!!! I'm so hopeful for something new, and I think if he's that good then he's definitely got something in the works... None of us will know until he sings for us, though, and that's what I'm waiting for!!

Well here's what I think. On the David Pack backing vocals, his voice is amazing & that was recorded in late 04, I think. When he did the Laidlaw song, his voice sounded like it did back in the 70s. That was in 99. There are new vocals added to Street Talk (remastered). They were recorded this year. So he can still sing in the studio. I'd love to hear him sing live tho.

[The_Noble_Cause]

who did some great material e.g. signs of life. shame everyone wants to bury his reputation.

I 'm not so sure you want to go there.
I've yet to hear a decent live recording of "Signs of Life".

[The_Noble_Cause]

Uncle Joe stated that Perry sounds as good as he did "in the mid 80's" Uncle Joe is a pretty well respected guy who has, at times, been accused of being pretty easy on his interviewees. Regardless, Perry has been in a recording studio, per Uncle Joe. He went on to say that he was "no more than 8 feet away" and Perry was absolutely amazing.

Uncle Joe also quashed rumors of the band's extensive use of tapes.
Yet again, this is a case of fans knowing more than the insiders.

[ArnelRox]

Uncle Joe also quashed rumors of the band's extensive use of tapes.
Yet again, this is a case of fans knowing more than the insiders.

Did he really? I didn't know that. When was this TNC?

[Saint John]

Uncle Joe stated that Perry sounds as good as he did "in the mid 80's" Uncle Joe is a pretty well respected guy who has, at times, been accused of being pretty easy on his interviewees. Regardless, Perry has been in a recording studio, per Uncle Joe. He went on to say that he was "no more than 8 feet away" and Perry was absolutely amazing.

Uncle Joe also quashed rumors of the band's extensive use of tapes.
Yet again, this is a case of fans knowing more than the insiders.

Agreed.

[donnaplease]

What friends have said he's better than ever?? I haven't read or heard that, but I'd sure like to. So if you've got a link to that (not just someone saying how great he sounds, but that he can now sing better than he ever could before) I'd love to hear it.

I don't have a link to it Donna but Uncle Joe Benson said Perry's singing voice is as good now as it was in the 80s. That's not saying better than ever before tho.

Thanks! I think I've read something like that too. I'm sure I speak for many when I say..."bring it on!!!" Let's all judge for ourselves, don't ya think...? He looks great, and I'm hoping he's feeling as great as he looks!!! I'm so hopeful for something new, and I think if he's that good then he's definitely got something in the works... None of us will know until he sings for us, though, and that's what I'm waiting for!!

Scroll up 2 posts, Donna!!!

Thanks!!! I read your response after mine posted. I have never doubted he was still amazing!!! NEVER!!! My thing is that trying to compare Steve Perry of today with Steve Perry of 1981 might not be realistic. I'm saying it's not fair to HIM to make those comparisons! It seems like UJB knows him pretty well, and he must be well-respected by SP since he's given him numerous interviews, right? I'm certainly not criticizing 'the Voice', I love him as much as you guys... but where can I find these quotes by Uncle Joe, I'd like to read them. Thanks! I also firmly believe that at his worst, I'd still rather have him with Journey than anyone else!!!