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TBF reminds me of "old school" figure-skating....

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:19 am
by TRAGChick
....don't close this yet....:wink:

I'm talking about precision, control, reining it in, and NO "bombast"...on the songs "Still She Cries", "It's Just The Rain", and "TBF"

Back in the day, Skaters had to focus and do intricate patterns on the ice, PRECISELY....that's WHY it was called "Figure Skating".

THEN, they can do the "physical fireworks" of triple-jump combinations; fancy footwork at top speed, etc.

IMO, this could be applied to Journey, on the TBF CD.

I mean, c'mon....we KNOW they could TOTALLY "rock-out"....just listen to "Edge of the Blade" or "Message of Love", for that matter; I'll wait... 8)

But I think they had the maturity on this CD to perform skillfully, and quietly....which, for Mr. Schon, must've been TORTURE!! LOL

I've been listening to this CD this week, and these are my thoughts on it....I know they don't have to be yours....

...and yes, I'm "bracing myself".....

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:31 am
by JeremyP
Excellent post and I agree. I think TBF had a maturity and depth not found on most other Journey albums.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:04 am
by larryfromnextdoor
wow nora , your much deeper than i... i do really like TBF... but as far as i could take it would be that people could actually skate to the songs.. like at the winter olympics.. would be cool to see someone skate to "dont be down on me baby" or "if he should break your heart".. couples skating.. i just hit the bottom of my deepness.. im tapped out..

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:05 am
by larryfromnextdoor
:shock: oh , "easy to fall" could be used in a ice skating Bloopers video!! really tapped now..

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:08 am
by TRAGChick
LarryFromNextDoor wrote:wow nora , your much deeper than i... i do really like TBF... but as far as i could take it would be that people could actually skate to the songs.. like at the winter olympics.. would be cool to see someone skate to "dont be down on me baby" or "if he should break your heart".. couples skating.. i just hit the bottom of my deepness.. im tapped out..

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Lar, thanx for playing...it's ALL good! LOL :lol:

Re: TBF reminds me of "old school" figure-skating.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:09 pm
by ohsherrie
tragchk wrote:....don't close this yet....:wink:

I'm talking about precision, control, reining it in, and NO "bombast"...on the songs "Still She Cries", "It's Just The Rain", and "TBF"

Back in the day, Skaters had to focus and do intricate patterns on the ice, PRECISELY....that's WHY it was called "Figure Skating".

THEN, they can do the "physical fireworks" of triple-jump combinations; fancy footwork at top speed, etc.

IMO, this could be applied to Journey, on the TBF CD.

I mean, c'mon....we KNOW they could TOTALLY "rock-out"....just listen to "Edge of the Blade" or "Message of Love", for that matter; I'll wait... 8)

But I think they had the maturity on this CD to perform skillfully, and quietly....which, for Mr. Schon, must've been TORTURE!! LOL

I've been listening to this CD this week, and these are my thoughts on it....I know they don't have to be yours....

...and yes, I'm "bracing myself".....


Great post Nora. I agree. The band was showing it's maturity and skill on this album. They knew they were beyond the bombast. They were taking their music to the highest level of perfection. A perfect "10".

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:12 pm
by conversationpc
There are some great moments on "Trial By Fire", i.e. "Message of Love", "When You Love a Woman", "If He Should Break Your Heart", "Can't Tame the Lion", and the title track but the rest is pure dreck. The worst of the Perry/Augeri-era albums, in my opinion.

TBF

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:17 pm
by journeywoman
Nora I think that was the best explained yet.Maturity,but I think they were also going to another horizon.The soulfulness brought out on some of these songs can literally rip your heart out.Experimentation,hum maybe,but with the strings and the way Neal rips on some of these songs is timeless.I think they all did a great job.They can play rock better than anybody out but man these guys have soul.

Re: TBF

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:22 pm
by ohsherrie
journeywoman wrote:They can play rock better than anybody out but man these guys have soul.


Yeah, exactly. :D

Re: TBF reminds me of "old school" figure-skating.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:30 pm
by Monker
Go listen to "Beyond the Thunder". Everything below had already been done - without Perry. It was much more impressive the first time I heard that style.

tragchk wrote:....don't close this yet....:wink:

I'm talking about precision, control, reining it in, and NO "bombast"...on the songs "Still She Cries", "It's Just The Rain", and "TBF"

Back in the day, Skaters had to focus and do intricate patterns on the ice, PRECISELY....that's WHY it was called "Figure Skating".

THEN, they can do the "physical fireworks" of triple-jump combinations; fancy footwork at top speed, etc.

IMO, this could be applied to Journey, on the TBF CD.

I mean, c'mon....we KNOW they could TOTALLY "rock-out"....just listen to "Edge of the Blade" or "Message of Love", for that matter; I'll wait... 8)

But I think they had the maturity on this CD to perform skillfully, and quietly....which, for Mr. Schon, must've been TORTURE!! LOL

I've been listening to this CD this week, and these are my thoughts on it....I know they don't have to be yours....

...and yes, I'm "bracing myself".....

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:33 pm
by Deb
Speaking of figure skating.......Sale and Pelletier did a smokin' job on Lovin Touchin Squeezin!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP3mrtZZ3IU

Great kids, they just got married here about a year ago.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:57 pm
by Rockindeano
Did you all know that every song ends abruptly...without a fadeout? I am sure some know this, but it was done on purpose.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:03 pm
by ohsherrie
Rockin'Deano wrote:Did you all know that every song ends abruptly...without a fadeout? I am sure some know this, but it was done on purpose.


'splain please.