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Augeri out due to vocal illness, but launching new solo CD?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:39 am
by chad
This seemed to be a strategic blunder in the press release.

Re: Augeri out due to vocal illness, but launching new solo

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:42 am
by NealIsGod
chad wrote:This seemed to be a strategic blunder in the press release.


I'm sure that was part of "the deal". :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:59 am
by JohnH
The stress of the road and travel is different than resting up for months, then going into a studio and cutting when you feel fine.

JH

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:13 am
by brywool
To be honest, I couldn't care if any of them toured for a while. Augueri, Perry, or Journey - but I DO want to hear some new music. I'm pretty excited about Augeri's records and I'm also really curious what a jss fronted journey album will be like. For me, the longer they tour, the less albums of new music there will be, so I HOPE they give touring a bit of a break and do some albums.

This Time- I also hope they get some record company backing them.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:41 am
by Abitaman
brywool wrote:To be honest, I couldn't care if any of them toured for a while. Augueri, Perry, or Journey - but I DO want to hear some new music. I'm pretty excited about Augeri's records and I'm also really curious what a jss fronted journey album will be like. For me, the longer they tour, the less albums of new music there will be, so I HOPE they give touring a bit of a break and do some albums.

This Time- I also hope they get some record company backing them.


Agree 100% with 100% of what you said-ERIC

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:01 am
by dcvader
At least he does not have to go back to the GAP.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:12 am
by JeremyP
I get the feeling that he felt a little creatively stifled in Journey. It'll be interesting to see how his music stands on it's own. I hope it rocks.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:58 am
by Chevypv
JeremyP wrote:I get the feeling that he felt a little creatively stifled in Journey. It'll be interesting to see how his music stands on it's own. I hope it rocks.


hehe...haha....HAHA.......sorry, the concept of Augeri creatively stifled is hilarious, especially since the only 2 songes he penned on his own are two of the worst Journey songs ever....butterfly...*shudder*...

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:00 am
by zino
Seems kindda weird that he is working on a solo cd. I think at some point a year or two ago in another interview SA mentioned doing a solo project. Guess he healed up and no word was mentioned. You think at some point the band/ management would of said something but hey lets move on with JSS !!!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:40 am
by JeremyP
Chevypv wrote:
hehe...haha....HAHA.......sorry, the concept of Augeri creatively stifled is hilarious, especially since the only 2 songes he penned on his own are two of the worst Journey songs ever....butterfly...*shudder*...


I get what you're saying, I'm just noticed that the vibe I got from him in interviews that I read was that he seemed like he'd kinda rather be doing his own thing.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:43 am
by ArnelRox
zino wrote:Seems kindda weird that he is working on a solo cd. I think at some point a year or two ago in another interview SA mentioned doing a solo project. Guess he healed up and no word was mentioned. You think at some point the band/ management would of said something but hey lets move on with JSS !!!!


Zino, u are a nice guy. But surely u have heard of lawyers telling people to say nothing? Have any or ur friends sold a business or gotten divorced?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:44 am
by ArnelRox
JeremyP wrote:
Chevypv wrote:
hehe...haha....HAHA.......sorry, the concept of Augeri creatively stifled is hilarious, especially since the only 2 songes he penned on his own are two of the worst Journey songs ever....butterfly...*shudder*...


I get what you're saying, I'm just noticed that the vibe I got from him in interviews that I read was that he seemed like he'd kinda rather be doing his own thing.


Oh come on dude, I love ya & all that shit. But seriously, Augeri's own thing? Butterfly & Believe? No one could honestly say they are great songs. Jeremy c'mon ur a musician & a good one dude. Wise up. I know I'm like grandma talking at ya but seriously ur cool. Get with it dude.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:05 pm
by zino
JourneyRox wrote:
zino wrote:Seems kindda weird that he is working on a solo cd. I think at some point a year or two ago in another interview SA mentioned doing a solo project. Guess he healed up and no word was mentioned. You think at some point the band/ management would of said something but hey lets move on with JSS !!!!


Zino, u are a nice guy. But surely u have heard of lawyers telling people to say nothing? Have any or ur friends sold a business or gotten divorced?


Yes, sorry It didn't come off the way I wanted too say it. What I am trying too say is we hear nothing for five months and then we hear Augeri is working on a solo project. The band or management never said a word about the health of Augeri from July until December. Just thought it would have been better for them to just not mention it at all. I know that lawerys are involved.

I am 100% behind this move and have been since i saw JSS in July. I just found that part of the press release a bit weird.
I loved the work that Andrew did and thought the interviews were great !!!!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:08 pm
by JeremyP
JourneyRox wrote:
Oh come on dude, I love ya & all that shit. But seriously, Augeri's own thing? Butterfly & Believe? No one could honestly say they are great songs. Jeremy c'mon ur a musician & a good one dude. Wise up. I know I'm like grandma talking at ya but seriously ur cool. Get with it dude.


Notice how I didn't mention whether I liked those songs, Susie.

There are about five songs that I don't skip when I listen to Generations...and neither of those are them.

I'm just commenting on a frustration that I've picked up on from Steve A. that his songs were (rightly or wrongly) given second billing as long as he was in Journey.

As to those particular songs....not a fan of them, but that wasn't my point.

And I can't picture you as my grandma! :wink:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:22 pm
by Enigma869
I honestly don't think Augeri being replaced had much to do with his "chronic throat infection". If you read the announcement, the only mention of any "issues" with Augeri is that Jeff "filled in" for Steve due to an "illness". There is no other mention of any illness or vocal issue in the rest of the press release. I think the fact that Augeri seemingly has all these plans to record new cd's certainly indicates that his voice probably isn't as wrecked as many thought. That said, it's entirely possible that he simply wasn't cut out to sing songs that were written for Perry's voice!

John from Boston

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:00 pm
by whocares
the statement reads like typical management PR BS that even they can't keep straight.

BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Sadly, I wasn't very entertained by the content of 2 of the interviews either, (Friga's and Schon's). Too long a wait for the "announcement AND the interviews. Nothing against Andrew, just all the hype, and then fizzle. Management dropped the ball by not getting a deal done sooner. Also by not being at least a LITTLE honest with the fans.

Oh, and as far as a NEW solo release form Stevie Awesome? Yeah ok. I'll be the first in line for THAT one. :roll:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:05 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
whocares wrote:the statement reads like typical management PR BS that even they can't keep straight.

BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Sadly, I wasn't very entertained by the content of 2 of the interviews either, (Friga's and Schon's). Too long a wait for the "announcement AND the interviews. Nothing against Andrew, just all the hype, and then fizzle. Management dropped the ball by not getting a deal done sooner. Also by not being at least a LITTLE honest with the fans.

Oh, and as far as a NEW solo release form Stevie Awesome? Yeah ok. I'll be the first in line for THAT one. :roll:


hug(((((((((((((((((((whocares)))))))))))))))hug..... :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:08 pm
by whocares
it takes a BIG man to hug another, Larry.

Smoochies! :wink:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:08 pm
by Carlitto H@kk
Enigma869 wrote:I honestly don't think Augeri being replaced had much to do with his "chronic throat infection". If you read the announcement, the only mention of any "issues" with Augeri is that Jeff "filled in" for Steve due to an "illness". There is no other mention of any illness or vocal issue in the rest of the press release. I think the fact that Augeri seemingly has all these plans to record new cd's certainly indicates that his voice probably isn't as wrecked as many thought. That said, it's entirely possible that he simply wasn't cut out to sing songs that were written for Perry's voice!

John from Boston


I think it has more to do with what was said in the Neal/Deen interviews...
Neal wasn't happy, hadn't been for awhile, felt "like the brakes were on..."

I think this ALL had more to do with 'Chemistry' than anything else.
Face it, Neal is in constant motion; he's a creative Freak!
I don't think he ever really felt a creative bond with Augeri.
Throw in that, the health/stamina issues and the lack of faith it seems management had in
that line-up and you are sitting on a veritable Time-Bomb.
I'm just surprised it lasted this long; I'm actually surprised we ever got the Generations album.

With that said, I am just so ready to move on...
2008 can't get here fast enuff!!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:10 pm
by whocares
I have to add that it certainly (to me) says volumes that NONE of the guys have talked to SA since his departure, sans the concert he showed up at.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:14 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
whocares wrote:I have to add that it certainly (to me) says volumes that NONE of the guys have talked to SA since his departure, sans the concert he showed up at.


i had a comment much like yours in another thread,, i have always thought deen and SA would be the close ones , joining togehter and all,, guess not.. i also find it interesting that during the interview that deen asks cain if he has talked to SA... does this band ever sit down and converse about the same junk we do?? i think not.. :D

Neal has issues.....

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:21 pm
by roknroseville
Neal,
So now King Schon is happy? He wasn't too happy with soul sirkus ( He paid for everything he quoted )
Hve you ever notice Neal has more problems with the monitors than anyone else in the world?
I've been in the front row for 5 shows in the last 3 years & everytime he's shouting at the sound guy big time!
Generations was a crap album!! Augeris tunes were the only bright spot on that dark record.
I look forward to Steve Augeris solo cd & Tall Stories...

Re: Neal has issues.....

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:25 pm
by whocares
roknroseville wrote:Neal,
So now King Schon is happy? He wasn't too happy with soul sirkus ( He paid for everything he quoted )
Hve you ever notice Neal has more problems with the monitors than anyone else in the world?
I've been in the front row for 5 shows in the last 3 years & everytime he's shouting at the sound guy big time!
Generations was a crap album!! Augeris tunes were the only bright spot on that dark record.
I look forward to Steve Augeris solo cd & Tall Stories...



Thanks for stopping by. See ya later.

Ever hear of people having HEARING problems from LOUD MUSIC? I'm a crabby person tonight, but DAMN, you've beat even me in crabbiness.

Re: Neal has issues.....

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:27 pm
by Carlitto H@kk
roknroseville wrote:So now King Schon is happy? He wasn't too happy with soul sirkus ( He paid for everything he quoted )


Not true... Neal was over-joyed with SS and the music they created and the live performances...
He was pissed that management pretty much ham-strung him and didn't give them the PR
they deserved.

roknroseville wrote:Generations was a crap album!! Augeris tunes were the only bright spot on that dark record.
I look forward to Steve Augeris solo cd & Tall Stories...


Dark record???
Actually, most would agree that, aside from FITH, Deen's to vocal tracks were the only
bright spots on that album.

Neal Schon

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:30 pm
by roknroseville
Crabbiness? Not here...
Just a fact... I wonder how many sound guys have worked for journey in last 8 years...
Plus , will see how long he stays happy with JSS...

Re: Neal has issues.....

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:34 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
roknroseville wrote:Neal,
So now King Schon is happy? He wasn't too happy with soul sirkus ( He paid for everything he quoted )
Hve you ever notice Neal has more problems with the monitors than anyone else in the world?
I've been in the front row for 5 shows in the last 3 years & everytime he's shouting at the sound guy big time!
Generations was a crap album!! Augeris tunes were the only bright spot on that dark record.
I look forward to Steve Augeris solo cd & Tall Stories...


schon IS journey,, "YOU should be happy , your all alone". ........ i would love a SA solo record too bubby..but neal has problems with PERFECTION,, hes the talent that makes everything gel.. he makes it right , and makes it happen... without neal ,SA would have never joined.. period.. .... SA gave it a shot,, now someone else will....

SCHON

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:37 pm
by roknroseville
I guess everybody has there favorites BUT seems like everyone is taking shots at Augeri....
Chemistry? Maybe But on Arrival Neal & Jonathan worked with too many outside writers...
I hope the new Journey cd isn't as bas as the Soul Sirkus cd That was aweful.........

Re: SCHON

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:42 pm
by Carlitto H@kk
roknroseville wrote:I guess everybody has there favorites BUT seems like everyone is taking shots at Augeri....
Chemistry? Maybe But on Arrival Neal & Jonathan worked with too many outside writers...
I hope the new Journey cd isn't as bas as the Soul Sirkus cd That was aweful.........


Gee, what do you think that says about how Jon and Neal felt about
Augeri's writing skills?

As for SS...
What's not to love???

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:43 pm
by whocares
wah wah wah, go back to the other place if you don't like us here.

You're making quite the "first" impression on some of us here, I'm sure.

Stevie Awesome is NOT the only one that people took pot shots at in this band. Read a little more before you spew you shit.

Re: SCHON

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:44 pm
by Melissa
roknroseville wrote:I guess everybody has there favorites BUT seems like everyone is taking shots at Augeri....
Chemistry? Maybe But on Arrival Neal & Jonathan worked with too many outside writers...
I hope the new Journey cd isn't as bas as the Soul Sirkus cd That was aweful.........


I love SS :evil: