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Seperate Ways

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:49 am
by piecesofeight
Listening to this song on the radio with my amazing Sony digital headphones. I cannot stand this song, or video, but Steve's vocals are amazing on this song.
I vote this as one of Perry's best vocals for a song I cannot stand.

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:57 am
by SusieP
Come ON! You gotta love that video????
It's a comedy classic!

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:06 am
by whocares
When Bevis & Butthead trashed the video, that's when you knew Journey had hit a nerve with people. I'm sure the song is something the band is proud of, can't say the same for the video, I'm sure they're all deeply embarrassed about. Most likely whey there were never really any true concept videos by the band. However, Faithfully is probably the best "concept" video the band had, as well as the best song ever from the band.

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:10 am
by SusieP
Correct me if I'm wrong, but music video making was in it's infancy when that was made, so I forgive 'em for not getting it quite right.
And despite the video, the musical talent shines through. Never fails to cheer me up if I'm feeling down.
I love it.

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:12 am
by ****
whocares wrote:When Bevis & Butthead trashed the video, that's when you knew Journey had hit a nerve with people. I'm sure the song is something the band is proud of, can't say the same for the video, I'm sure they're all deeply embarrassed about. Most likely whey there were never really any true concept videos by the band. However, Faithfully is probably the best "concept" video the band had, as well as the best song ever from the band.
The song is great .. but are there ANY videos from the 80's that are good?
They are all funny as hell !

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:15 am
by whocares
it was around for a short time as making videos specially for TV channels to show them, but of COurse Journey was into Video, long before that. The band always trives/thrived on live music, which I think is why they almost always released "live" videos for their songs.
Don't get me wrong, it cheers people up and makes them laugh at how awful the video really is. That's gotta be worth something.

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:19 am
by SusieP
Wonder who the girl was?
The way she stalks about so purposefully really cracks me up.
Oh and the 80's clothes and make-up.
Gonna have to get the DVD on and watch it again very soon.
I need to see SP grab his arm when he sings "chains that BIND you"
and I gotta see them all playing imaginary instruments.

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:21 am
by NealIsGod
Sure, the band may be embarassed by it, but it could have been much worse.
Just ask Billy Squire.


Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:24 am
by Moon Beam
NealIsGod wrote:Sure, the band may be embarassed by it, but it could have been much worse.
Just ask Billy Squire.

A zingerloo from Niggy, gotta love it!
It is kinda fittingly justified.


Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:25 am
by ****

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:25 am
by ohsherrie
That video makes me feel embarrassed for them.

The Chain Reaction one isn't much better.


Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:27 am
by ****
ohsherrie wrote:That video makes me feel embarrassed for them.

The Chain Reaction one isn't much better.

I don't feel embarrassed - it just makes me laugh


Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:29 am
by SusieP
ohsherrie wrote:That video makes me feel embarrassed for them.

The Chain Reaction one isn't much better.

IMO the Chain Reaction one is the worst.
I actually enjoy watching the Separate Ways one, but the Chain Reaction one is embarrassing.
But as Kim said, were there ANY good 80's videos, really?
Aaaah, happy memories.

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:29 am
by Deb
It was the 80s, not too many bands had great concept videos back then (until Wayne Isham came along with LIVE videos). Alot of the best LIVE videos from our favorite bands back in the 80s and 90s were done by him. He directed When You Love a Woman and the ROR Documentary too, along with Live videos for Bon Jovi, Def Lepard, Judas Priest, Motley Crue, etc.
http://www.mvdbase.com/tech.php?last=Isham&first=Wayne
LOL, I remember Jon Bon Jovi saying in an interview once something to the effect of having to be tied to a chair before he'd watch some of their first videos like Runaway, She Don't Know Me, etc.


Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:34 am
by ohsherrie
SusieP wrote:ohsherrie wrote:That video makes me feel embarrassed for them.

The Chain Reaction one isn't much better.

IMO the Chain Reaction one is the worst.
I actually enjoy watching the Separate Ways one, but the Chain Reaction one is embarrassing.
But as Kim said, were there ANY good 80's videos, really?
Aaaah, happy memories.
I really can't remember any good videos that weren't live performance videos. I remember trying to understand why people were so into MTV when all that I saw seemed so stupid to me.

I guess I just didn't get it.


Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:38 am
by whocares
SusieP wrote:Wonder who the girl was?
The way she stalks about so purposefully really cracks me up.
Oh and the 80's clothes and make-up.
Gonna have to get the DVD on and watch it again very soon.
I need to see SP grab his arm when he sings "chains that BIND you"
and I gotta see them all playing imaginary instruments.
that'd be Jon Cain's wife. Better known for her role as Skinemax queen, for her softcore friday night movies. At least that's what I heard.


Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:43 am
by ****
strungout wrote:It was the 80s, not too many bands had great concept videos back then (until Wayne Isham came along with LIVE videos). Alot of the best LIVE videos from our favorite bands back in the 80s and 90s were done by him. He directed When You Love a Woman and the ROR Documentary too, along with Live videos for Bon Jovi, Def Lepard, Judas Priest, Motley Crue, etc.
http://www.mvdbase.com/tech.php?last=Isham&first=Wayne LOL, I remember Jon Bon Jovi saying in an interview once something to the effect of having to be tied to a chair before he'd watch some of their first videos like Runaway, She Don't Know Me, etc.

Def Leppard released a DVD of a bunch of their videos with them talking over it watching it - hilarious what they were saying..

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:49 am
by txfirefighter
Kimterp wrote:strungout wrote:It was the 80s, not too many bands had great concept videos back then (until Wayne Isham came along with LIVE videos). Alot of the best LIVE videos from our favorite bands back in the 80s and 90s were done by him. He directed When You Love a Woman and the ROR Documentary too, along with Live videos for Bon Jovi, Def Lepard, Judas Priest, Motley Crue, etc.
http://www.mvdbase.com/tech.php?last=Isham&first=Wayne LOL, I remember Jon Bon Jovi saying in an interview once something to the effect of having to be tied to a chair before he'd watch some of their first videos like Runaway, She Don't Know Me, etc.

Def Leppard released a DVD of a bunch of their videos with them talking over it watching it - hilarious what they were saying..
Oooooo Kim, I've got that DVD. It's Rock of Ages: The DVD Collection. Funny, funny stuff....the band is basically trashing themselves during the videos....hysterical!


Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:52 am
by ****
txfirefighter wrote:Kimterp wrote:strungout wrote:It was the 80s, not too many bands had great concept videos back then (until Wayne Isham came along with LIVE videos). Alot of the best LIVE videos from our favorite bands back in the 80s and 90s were done by him. He directed When You Love a Woman and the ROR Documentary too, along with Live videos for Bon Jovi, Def Lepard, Judas Priest, Motley Crue, etc.
http://www.mvdbase.com/tech.php?last=Isham&first=Wayne LOL, I remember Jon Bon Jovi saying in an interview once something to the effect of having to be tied to a chair before he'd watch some of their first videos like Runaway, She Don't Know Me, etc.

Def Leppard released a DVD of a bunch of their videos with them talking over it watching it - hilarious what they were saying..
Oooooo Kim, I've got that DVD. It's Rock of Ages: The DVD Collection. Funny, funny stuff....the band is basically trashing themselves during the videos....hysterical!

exactly -

It's hysterical!

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:57 am
by txfirefighter
Kimterp wrote:txfirefighter wrote:Kimterp wrote:strungout wrote:It was the 80s, not too many bands had great concept videos back then (until Wayne Isham came along with LIVE videos). Alot of the best LIVE videos from our favorite bands back in the 80s and 90s were done by him. He directed When You Love a Woman and the ROR Documentary too, along with Live videos for Bon Jovi, Def Lepard, Judas Priest, Motley Crue, etc.
http://www.mvdbase.com/tech.php?last=Isham&first=Wayne LOL, I remember Jon Bon Jovi saying in an interview once something to the effect of having to be tied to a chair before he'd watch some of their first videos like Runaway, She Don't Know Me, etc.

Def Leppard released a DVD of a bunch of their videos with them talking over it watching it - hilarious what they were saying..
Oooooo Kim, I've got that DVD. It's Rock of Ages: The DVD Collection. Funny, funny stuff....the band is basically trashing themselves during the videos....hysterical!

exactly -

It's hysterical!
Not to be confused with Hysteria.......


Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:10 am
by Deb

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:16 am
by ohsherrie
Would that be the pekingese dog comment Deb?

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:22 am
by Deb
ohsherrie wrote:Would that be the pekingese dog comment Deb?
Yep, along with porteguese hotel, etc.

It's an 8 minute audio....they are laughing their asses off.


Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:34 am
by ohsherrie
strungout wrote:ohsherrie wrote:Would that be the pekingese dog comment Deb?
Yep, along with porteguese hotel, etc.

It's an 8 minute audio....they are laughing their asses off.

Oh yeah, I always wanted to book a room at that hotel and try out the Hiawatha bed.


Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:51 am
by Enigma869
I definitely agree with you about the video. I've said it here in the past...It is a HORRENDOUSLY bad video! If there is a worst video, I haven't seen it! It's beyond embarrassing! I actually can't believe someone put that together and thought to themselves "Hey, this is good, let's roll with it"!
Now, to your more important point, Perry NAILS this song (and every other song I ever heard him sing)! The first JSS boot I heard when he first joined Journey was Jeff attempting to sing Separate Ways, and it simply wasn't good, AT ALL! He simply couldn't hit the many high notes in that song. To be fair to Jeff, he was BRAND new to this material and for all I know, wasn't feeling well that night. I have heard many subsequent boots where Jeff has done a SUPERB job on a song that I thought he butchered, fresh out of the gate!
John from Boston

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:04 am
by Rockindeano
piecesofcrap-
I heard a Styx song come on the radio and had it turned before the ten second mark....At least you made it through the entire Journey tune.
Styx sucks ass.

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:10 am
by montyollie
I *just* put the Separate Ways video in my blog the other day and sparked a whole convo amongst my friends about how awful it was! That air-piano that Jon is trying to do makes him look like Teen Wolf clawing at something. HAHAHA
That being said, you know I adore this song. SP can "break those chains" off his wrists all he likes... HA! (And no, I'm not a loon... YET!! LOL)
And get this... after I put the vid in my blog, I inspired a friend to grab her Journey's Greatest Hits on the way to work that day, and she fell back in love with the band.
So there you go. Horrid, cheesy, awful video and all!!
(I still thing Survivor's "Caught in the Game" might be a worse video!)

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:19 am
by piecesofeight
RockinDeano wrote:piecesofcrap-
I heard a Styx song come on the radio and had it turned before the ten second mark....At least you made it through the entire Journey tune.
Styx sucks ass.
Well, since this is what you like every post to turn into..FUCK OFF!!
What the fuck have I ever done to you, except the Styx relation offending you.
Even though I am giving you exactly what you want and feeding you now, shit I feel sorry for your new kids, every fuckin' thing they do is going to offend you. I thought JY was an angry man, you take the cake. Other people can kiss your ass, not me.
You can take pride in knowing that you are the biggest asshole on the net.
Styx sucks so bad, yet you knew my name was a Styx song...
I know you love this stuff, so it's all in fun, right....


Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:14 pm
by Red13JoePa
Separate Ways (Worlds Apart) is such a spectacular song that it has thus far avoided going down the dirt road that the Stones' Start Me Up went for me.
The road that it is a terrific song and I don't care if I ever hear it again.
But I probably only proactively seek out and play the studio version of SW like 3-5 times per year now. Live versions, well there's always a new kick to be had and this seems to be one of JSS' command performances as it were (Baltimore: Holy SHIT and that was before he became good

). Little bit of new life going on there live

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:56 pm
by Rockindeano
piecesofeight wrote:You can take pride in knowing that you are the biggest asshole on the net.
Yep, You'd be right. I rule, no doubt about that.