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Postby TRAGChick » Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:49 am

"Yeah, he WAS...."

"But, in 1983...."


Rhetorical question for you:

Do you think ANY of the above phrases would give Steve the initiative to get himself back into a Recording Studio?

We all KNOW what a perfectionist he is, and he knows that he cannot deliver the Strat-High Notes like before.

I know I've included the above in some of my posts....but seriously....

If this is what people continually focus on, no WONDER he keeps re-visiting the past (I.E. - re-masters of older albums).
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Postby Saint John » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:05 am

tragchk wrote:"Yeah, he WAS...."

"But, in 1983...."


Rhetorical question for you:

Do you think ANY of the above phrases would give Steve the initiative to get himself back into a Recording Studio?

We all KNOW what a perfectionist he is, and he knows that he cannot deliver the Strat-High Notes like before.

I know I've included the above in some of my posts....but seriously....

If this is what people continually focus on, no WONDER he keeps re-visiting the past (I.E. - re-masters of older albums).



Steve is a very mysterious person. I think if he did attempt a comeback he would make sure he was close enough to his old self that he wouldn't have to deal with those parody questions. I suspect that if he couldn't, in his mind, reach those notes or come close, he would simply stay retired or sing something more suited to his current voice. He was in a studio recently, but what came of those sessions remains unknown to the general public. I suspect his voice is at or near the ROR days. The amount of rest he's had should have healed all that time could. I think the road is simply something that scres the hell out of him and makes him ponder whether or not old vices might surface, should he choose to tour again. I'm quite certain we'll hear from him again, but with the exception of a "one-off" Journey gig, doubt we'll see him tour again. As I said before, I'll be anywhere, at anytime, for any cost, should he choose to perform again.
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Postby AR » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:18 am

Part of it is the unrealistic expectations put on him by the fans. A lot of you have put him on a pedastal WAY too high. No wonder he would be hesitant recording again. "The voice" "incomperable" "No one can touch him"...

All bullshit by the way. There are so many amazing singers out there. He is just your favorite. Using those terms is insulting to many great singers who still continue to perform in their late 50's and early 60's. (Dio, Robin Zander, etc)

Those guys may have even lost a slight bit, although I am hard pressed to notice.

The point is, I would completely accept Steve Perry recording again, with whatever limitations he may or may not have in 2007. The loons though have raised the bar so high in expectations though that I don't blame him really for staying retired. Of course if he sounded like shit in his return, the loons would defend it and say it was the greatest new CD ever anyway. And of course those of us tired of all the flowery praise, would remind you all that it wasn't (just like Trial By Fire and FTLOSM) :wink:

Anyway, I'd love to hear new material from Steve Perry. I respect artists that continue to be creative as they age and add to their body of work. I can deal with the limitations that time brings to all of us. The challenge is to utilize what talent you still have and make it work.
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Postby Saint John » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:53 am

AR wrote:Part of it is the unrealistic expectations put on him by the fans. A lot of you have put him on a pedastal WAY too high. No wonder he would be hesitant recording again. "The voice" "incomperable" "No one can touch him"...

All bullshit by the way. There are so many amazing singers out there. He is just your favorite. Using those terms is insulting to many great singers who still continue to perform in their late 50's and early 60's. (Dio, Robin Zander, etc)

Those guys may have even lost a slight bit, although I am hard pressed to notice.

The point is, I would completely accept Steve Perry recording again, with whatever limitations he may or may not have in 2007. The loons though have raised the bar so high in expectations though that I don't blame him really for staying retired. Of course if he sounded like shit in his return, the loons would defend it and say it was the greatest new CD ever anyway. And of course those of us tired of all the flowery praise, would remind you all that it wasn't (just like Trial By Fire and FTLOSM) :wink:

Anyway, I'd love to hear new material from Steve Perry. I respect artists that continue to be creative as they age and add to their body of work. I can deal with the limitations that time brings to all of us. The challenge is to utilize what talent you still have and make it work.




What put Steve Perry on a "pedastal" were Steve Perry's abilities and performances, not his fans. Journey's body of work when he was with the band simply speaks for itself. GH is at 14 million and rolling along. Think about it, the guy was there from 78-86 basically (and 96 I guess) and their GH has sold 14 million copies. That is almost unparalleled. It's hard to speculate, but I'd bet that had they stayed together a little longer, GH might be a Top 3 album all-time in the U.S. THAT is pedastal material. As for the "other" artists you mentioned....their catalogs allow them to continue to perform those songs. I'm not bashing their abilities in the least, but Perry toured so relentlessly that his voice changed from album to album, making replicating those songs years later something he chose not to do. And I disagree with your "challenge" statement. The "challenge" is to be financially responsible enough so that in your later years you have the financial freedom to do what it is that YOU want. How many people would have walked away from the BOATLOAD of cash the TBF tour was going to bring in? Maybe 3 on the planet. Perry is simply a perfectionist SOB, who will NEVER step on a stage or agree to a tour that he knows he can't flat out perform at the level he has predetermined. THAT, coupled with his past work, is why he is on a pedastal. I love that motherfucker as an artist. 8)
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Postby AR » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:20 am

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AR wrote:Part of it is the unrealistic expectations put on him by the fans. A lot of you have put him on a pedastal WAY too high. No wonder he would be hesitant recording again. "The voice" "incomperable" "No one can touch him"...

All bullshit by the way. There are so many amazing singers out there. He is just your favorite. Using those terms is insulting to many great singers who still continue to perform in their late 50's and early 60's. (Dio, Robin Zander, etc)

Those guys may have even lost a slight bit, although I am hard pressed to notice.

The point is, I would completely accept Steve Perry recording again, with whatever limitations he may or may not have in 2007. The loons though have raised the bar so high in expectations though that I don't blame him really for staying retired. Of course if he sounded like shit in his return, the loons would defend it and say it was the greatest new CD ever anyway. And of course those of us tired of all the flowery praise, would remind you all that it wasn't (just like Trial By Fire and FTLOSM) :wink:

Anyway, I'd love to hear new material from Steve Perry. I respect artists that continue to be creative as they age and add to their body of work. I can deal with the limitations that time brings to all of us. The challenge is to utilize what talent you still have and make it work.

What put Steve Perry on a "pedastal" were Steve Perry's abilities and performances, not his fans. Journey's body of work when he was with the band simply speaks for itself. GH is at 14 million and rolling along. Think about it, the guy was there from 78-86 basically (and 96 I guess) and their GH has sold 14 million copies. That is almost unparalleled. It's hard to speculate, but I'd bet that had they stayed together a little longer, GH might be a Top 3 album all-time in the U.S. THAT is pedastal material. As for the "other" artists you mentioned....their catalogs allow them to continue to perform those songs. I'm not bashing their abilities in the least, but Perry toured so relentlessly that his voice changed from album to album, making replicating those songs years later something he chose not to do. And I disagree with your "challenge" statement. The "challenge" is to be financially responsible enough so that in your later years you have the financial freedom to do what it is that YOU want. How many people would have walked away from the BOATLOAD of cash the TBF tour was going to bring in? Maybe 3 on the planet. Perry is simply a perfectionist SOB, who will NEVER step on a stage or agree to a tour that he knows he can't flat out perform at the level he has predetermined. THAT, coupled with his past work, is why he is on a pedastal. I love that motherfucker as an artist. 8)


I love him as an artist as well, but he is a fucking weirdo and so are so many of his fans.

Singers sing. He must not have enjoyed doing it much. There are plenty of vocalists who do not need to perform anymore and are financially set for life - yet they still perform.

You would think Perry would record FOR his fans. Instead of being a scared little puss. Fuck him.

I wish the fanbase would forget him or abuse him into doing something.

I will start. Fuck you Steve Perry, keep playing with your pussycat - we all know you can't fucking sing a note - you suck pelican boy.

Now go prove me wrong beeatch!!!!!!!
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Postby tammy » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:32 am

I agree with SJ, it was Steve Perry's talent that put him on the pedestal. MOST people (not just Journey fans) have heard of Steve Perry - if you go up to someone on the street & ask them they will probably know who you are talking about...whereas the other singers mentioned by AR would draw a blank face...I don't know who they are either.

Who knows why SP stopped singing altogether - he always alludes to the fact that "he can't go into it" in interviews. Anyone who expects him to sing like he did 30 yrs ago is cracked. I would love to hear/see him again because even if it was originally his voice that made me love him, I've grown to love him PERIOD. But, it isn't about me (the fans) it is about him - he needs to be true to himself no matter what.
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Postby PROPERRY » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:32 am

AR wrote:Part of it is the unrealistic expectations put on him by the fans. A lot of you have put him on a pedastal WAY too high. No wonder he would be hesitant recording again. "The voice" "incomperable" "No one can touch him"...

All bullshit by the way. There are so many amazing singers out there. He is just your favorite. Using those terms is insulting to many great singers who still continue to perform in their late 50's and early 60's. (Dio, Robin Zander, etc)

Those guys may have even lost a slight bit, although I am hard pressed to notice.

The point is, I would completely accept Steve Perry recording again, with whatever limitations he may or may not have in 2007. The loons though have raised the bar so high in expectations though that I don't blame him really for staying retired. Of course if he sounded like shit in his return, the loons would defend it and say it was the greatest new CD ever anyway. And of course those of us tired of all the flowery praise, would remind you all that it wasn't (just like Trial By Fire and FTLOSM) :wink:

Anyway, I'd love to hear new material from Steve Perry. I respect artists that continue to be creative as they age and add to their body of work. I can deal with the limitations that time brings to all of us. The challenge is to utilize what talent you still have and make it work.



AR, I 'd say you applied your comments to the wrong group of fans, the Perry fans that I've talked to, say they don't expect Perry's voice to sound like it did in the 80's. In fact this particular topic is brought up over and over again on THIS board by the MAJORITY here, and the Perry fans don't even concern themselves on whether Perry can reach the high notes or not , because all they care about and WANT him to do is SING!!

We Perry fans KNOW it's not about reaching the high's notes of the songs, it's about HOW he sings the songs with such passion & emotion that he MOVES the fans to FEEL his emotions, in the way he is singing the songs, THAT gets us Perry fans all worked up and excited!!! :lol: :)
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Postby AR » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:41 am

silverblue wrote:I agree with SJ, it was Steve Perry's talent that put him on the pedestal. MOST people (not just Journey fans) have heard of Steve Perry - if you go up to someone on the street & ask them they will probably know who you are talking about...whereas the other singers mentioned by AR would draw a blank face...I don't know who they are either.

Who knows why SP stopped singing altogether - he always alludes to the fact that "he can't go into it" in interviews. Anyone who expects him to sing like he did 30 yrs ago is cracked. I would love to hear/see him again because even if it was originally his voice that made me love him, I've grown to love him PERIOD. But, it isn't about me (the fans) it is about him - he needs to be true to himself no matter what.


Well the one singer I mentioned (Dio) is touring with a band called Heaven and Hell (really Black Sabbath) and are drawing very well for themselves. That man is approaching his mid 60's and is still an incredible singer. Robin Zander is the lead singer for Cheap Trick. If you haven't heard of them you are living under a rock.

Properry's post isn't lost on me. I want Steve Perry to just DO something.
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Postby tammy » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:42 am

Right, ProPerry - he has the emotion & soul behind the song which is probably the most important component. If I think of other singers that I like I am drawn to the "soul" in their voice more than anything. Van Morrison is a favorite of mine & if you think about it, he is kinda craggy in voice, but oh, he can really pull the soul out. He's even kinda craggy looking. :)
There are some singers who have the perfect technical thing down, but something is missing...they don't have that truthful soul part. You can tell who has it & who doesn't. Steve Perry has truth in his singing - he believes in what he sings & you believe him. That is why so many people miss him.
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Postby Saint John » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:43 am

AR wrote:
saint John wrote:
AR wrote:Part of it is the unrealistic expectations put on him by the fans. A lot of you have put him on a pedastal WAY too high. No wonder he would be hesitant recording again. "The voice" "incomperable" "No one can touch him"...

All bullshit by the way. There are so many amazing singers out there. He is just your favorite. Using those terms is insulting to many great singers who still continue to perform in their late 50's and early 60's. (Dio, Robin Zander, etc)

Those guys may have even lost a slight bit, although I am hard pressed to notice.

The point is, I would completely accept Steve Perry recording again, with whatever limitations he may or may not have in 2007. The loons though have raised the bar so high in expectations though that I don't blame him really for staying retired. Of course if he sounded like shit in his return, the loons would defend it and say it was the greatest new CD ever anyway. And of course those of us tired of all the flowery praise, would remind you all that it wasn't (just like Trial By Fire and FTLOSM) :wink:

Anyway, I'd love to hear new material from Steve Perry. I respect artists that continue to be creative as they age and add to their body of work. I can deal with the limitations that time brings to all of us. The challenge is to utilize what talent you still have and make it work.

What put Steve Perry on a "pedastal" were Steve Perry's abilities and performances, not his fans. Journey's body of work when he was with the band simply speaks for itself. GH is at 14 million and rolling along. Think about it, the guy was there from 78-86 basically (and 96 I guess) and their GH has sold 14 million copies. That is almost unparalleled. It's hard to speculate, but I'd bet that had they stayed together a little longer, GH might be a Top 3 album all-time in the U.S. THAT is pedastal material. As for the "other" artists you mentioned....their catalogs allow them to continue to perform those songs. I'm not bashing their abilities in the least, but Perry toured so relentlessly that his voice changed from album to album, making replicating those songs years later something he chose not to do. And I disagree with your "challenge" statement. The "challenge" is to be financially responsible enough so that in your later years you have the financial freedom to do what it is that YOU want. How many people would have walked away from the BOATLOAD of cash the TBF tour was going to bring in? Maybe 3 on the planet. Perry is simply a perfectionist SOB, who will NEVER step on a stage or agree to a tour that he knows he can't flat out perform at the level he has predetermined. THAT, coupled with his past work, is why he is on a pedastal. I love that motherfucker as an artist. 8)


I love him as an artist as well, but he is a fucking weirdo and so are so many of his fans.

Singers sing. He must not have enjoyed doing it much. There are plenty of vocalists who do not need to perform anymore and are financially set for life - yet they still perform.

You would think Perry would record FOR his fans. Instead of being a scared little puss. Fuck him.

I wish the fanbase would forget him or abuse him into doing something.

I will start. Fuck you Steve Perry, keep playing with your pussycat - we all know you can't fucking sing a note - you suck pelican boy.

Now go prove me wrong beeatch!!!!!!!




While I do not have ANY idea what the music business is all about, I think I know enough to say that Perry is "trapped" by his past success with Journey. I think the musical landscape has changed so much that any label is going to want a "reunion" and a reunion only. I think that's why we have seen Perry exclusively as a "special guest" on records. Unless he decides to tour one more time with Journey, the only thing we can hope for is something released from his own website, something that was supposed to happen sometime this year I thought, or the continuance of him as a "special guest."

As for the "recording FOR his fans" comment, I wouldn't want him to record merely for the sake of recording. I think Journey made that mistake with Red 13 and Generations, and it produced two of the shittiest albums known to man. Recording should come organically through inspiration, and if Perry no longer has those two things driving him, then I hope he stays retired and ventures into whatever aspect of the music business "floats his boat." And yes, petting his cat would be OK with me, too. :lol:
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Postby tammy » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:46 am

AR wrote:
silverblue wrote:I agree with SJ, it was Steve Perry's talent that put him on the pedestal. MOST people (not just Journey fans) have heard of Steve Perry - if you go up to someone on the street & ask them they will probably know who you are talking about...whereas the other singers mentioned by AR would draw a blank face...I don't know who they are either.

Who knows why SP stopped singing altogether - he always alludes to the fact that "he can't go into it" in interviews. Anyone who expects him to sing like he did 30 yrs ago is cracked. I would love to hear/see him again because even if it was originally his voice that made me love him, I've grown to love him PERIOD. But, it isn't about me (the fans) it is about him - he needs to be true to himself no matter what.


Well the one singer I mentioned (Dio) is touring with a band called Heaven and Hell (really Black Sabbath) and are drawing very well for themselves. That man is approaching his mid 60's and is still an incredible singer. Robin Zander is the lead singer for Cheap Trick. If you haven't heard of them you are living under a rock.

Properry's post isn't lost on me. I want Steve Perry to just DO something.


I've heard of Black Sabbath & heard of Cheap Trick & would probably recognize some of their songs if I heard them - BUT, no I did not know who their singers were. Steve Perry's name is not only joined with Journey, but separate. His name comes up all the time in popular culture - random articles, t.v. shows, etc. What can I say? I may live under a rock but I know some things outside of music, too. :)
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Postby Deb » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:52 am

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Steve is a very mysterious person. I think if he did attempt a comeback he would make sure he was close enough to his old self that he wouldn't have to deal with those parody questions. I suspect that if he couldn't, in his mind, reach those notes or come close, he would simply stay retired or sing something more suited to his current voice. He was in a studio recently, but what came of those sessions remains unknown to the general public. I suspect his voice is at or near the ROR days. The amount of rest he's had should have healed all that time could. I think the road is simply something that scres the hell out of him and makes him ponder whether or not old vices might surface, should he choose to tour again. I'm quite certain we'll hear from him again, but with the exception of a "one-off" Journey gig, doubt we'll see him tour again. As I said before, I'll be anywhere, at anytime, for any cost, should he choose to perform again.


I totally agree SJ, I don't believe he'll full-on tour again either, and I don't believe for a second he is done singing. AR, I think you have it backwards, most of the die-hards ARE NOT going to expect him to sound like he did in the 80s and will except whatever voice he's got left. Hell, I for one, would love to hear even 60% of his range over most other singers out there. My SIG pretty much says it all. Thanks Nora. :wink:
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Postby AR » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:54 am

I'm just never going to kiss ass at the altar of Steve Perry as so many do. I enjoyed what he did as a singer for sure though. I am angry at him for not wanting to perform. Really he hasn't sang a song I've liked since Message of Love, and an album that I thought was at least ok since "Raised on Radio"

As for his name being separate from Journey - sure. However, the last time he released something under his own name it didn't do very well.
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Postby PROPERRY » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:54 am

silverblue wrote:Right, ProPerry - he has the emotion & soul behind the song which is probably the most important component. If I think of other singers that I like I am drawn to the "soul" in their voice more than anything. Van Morrison is a favorite of mine & if you think about it, he is kinda craggy in voice, but oh, he can really pull the soul out. He's even kinda craggy looking. :)
There are some singers who have the perfect technical thing down, but something is missing...they don't have that truthful soul part. You can tell who has it & who doesn't. Steve Perry has truth in his singing - he believes in what he sings & you believe him. That is why so many people miss him.




That is SO TRUE silverblue!!
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Postby Saint John » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:59 am

Steve Perry, whether or not he realizes it, has the world by the balls. Because of his relationship with Randy Jackson, a reunion and a performance on AI with Journey would shoot these motherfuckers right back into mainstream pop culture. A couple of accolades from Randy would have teenie-boppers coast to coast lined up to buy GH. I've "heard" a few times that he was rumored to be collaborating with Randy Jackson, but that is merely rumor and nothing substantiated. Sadly, that scab-ass show might be the only way to re-introduce him into mainstream pop culture as a solo artist. Journey would do fine without AI if they reunited with Perry, but Perry would need some type of exposure that realistically, only AI could provide to the masses should he ever to choose to do it alone.

PS I find it hard to believe that Perry awoke one day, had an epiphany and just decided to become a health nut. The amount of weight he lost, the "scales" comments and his sudden disappearance tells me he AT LEAST burrowed himself in a studio and honestly found out "what he had left." Call me nuts, but I expect to hear from him again.....on a grand level. :shock:
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Postby ohsherrie » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:41 am

I think if it's any of the fans' comments that are shaking Steve's confidence it won't be the ones made by his hardcore fans. It'll be the ones saying things like "they'd rather have someone else singing for Journey because Perry can't hit the notes anymore", "who needs Perry", "Perry who", "FTLOSM sucked" or "his voice sounds like shit on TBF". Those aren't exactly words of encouragement.
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Postby JeremyP » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:48 am

saint John wrote: Sadly, that scab-ass show might be the only way to re-introduce him into mainstream pop culture as a solo artist.


I wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry if he turned up on AI to sing. I think that'd be really cheesy.

....his sudden disappearance tells me he AT LEAST burrowed himself in a studio and honestly found out "what he had left."


Maybe he was disappointed with what he found out.

I don't see why, if he puts out an album, it has to be labeled as a comeback. Why can't he just say, "I'm ready put out an album. Here it is, no strings attached."?
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Postby Saint John » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:52 am

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saint John wrote: Sadly, that scab-ass show might be the only way to re-introduce him into mainstream pop culture as a solo artist.


I wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry if he turned up on AI to sing. I think that'd be really cheesy.

....his sudden disappearance tells me he AT LEAST burrowed himself in a studio and honestly found out "what he had left."


Maybe he was disappointed with what he found out.

I don't see why, if he puts out an album, it has to be labeled as a comeback. Why can't he just say, "I'm ready put out an album. Here it is, no strings attached."?


Dude, I didn't mean as a contestant on AI.
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Postby JeremyP » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:54 am

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Dude, I didn't mean as a contestant on AI.


Oh, I know. I just have a distaste for shows like AI, even though I do admit to watching from time to time!
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Postby Deb » Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:01 am

JeremyP wrote:I don't see why, if he puts out an album, it has to be labeled as a comeback. Why can't he just say, "I'm ready put out an album. Here it is, no strings attached."?


Exactly!!
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Postby donnaplease » Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:57 am

AR wrote:Part of it is the unrealistic expectations put on him by the fans. A lot of you have put him on a pedastal WAY too high. No wonder he would be hesitant recording again. "The voice" "incomperable" "No one can touch him"...

All bullshit by the way. There are so many amazing singers out there. He is just your favorite. Using those terms is insulting to many great singers who still continue to perform in their late 50's and early 60's. (Dio, Robin Zander, etc)

Those guys may have even lost a slight bit, although I am hard pressed to notice.

The point is, I would completely accept Steve Perry recording again, with whatever limitations he may or may not have in 2007. The loons though have raised the bar so high in expectations though that I don't blame him really for staying retired. Of course if he sounded like shit in his return, the loons would defend it and say it was the greatest new CD ever anyway. And of course those of us tired of all the flowery praise, would remind you all that it wasn't (just like Trial By Fire and FTLOSM) :wink:

Anyway, I'd love to hear new material from Steve Perry. I respect artists that continue to be creative as they age and add to their body of work. I can deal with the limitations that time brings to all of us. The challenge is to utilize what talent you still have and make it work.


Ed, you know I luv ya, but you're really full of shit here!! :|

The "Loons" aren't to blame for SP's absence. The "Loons" would give anything to get a new CD from him, because they appreciate the entire package that is Steve Perry. Not only the voice, but also the heart and soul that he puts into everything he sings.

If SP's confidence is shaken, it's by people who criticize his work, especially ROR and TBF, and say FTLOSM is a disaster. These people blame Steve Perry for all that has possibly gone wrong in the Journey camp during his tenure. These people say they want to hear new music, but I'm sure that when or if we get it, they will be the first to pick it apart in order to affirm that they were right, he has 'lost' it.

You often talk about how there are other 60 year olds out there who are still singing and doing an okay job. That's wonderful for them. They have made the choice to do so, either because they need to, or simply because they want to. We all know SP doesn't need to perform, but most of us are hoping that he will want to again very soon.

I can assure you of this: saying things like "Fuck you Pelican boy" and "go play with your kitty" are not ways to encourage Mr. Perry to sing...
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Postby Rick » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:07 am

donnaplease wrote:"Fuck you Pelican boy" and "go play with your kitty" are not ways to encourage Mr. Perry to sing...


Probably not, but funny as hell. :twisted:
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Postby ohsherrie » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:14 am

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AR wrote:Part of it is the unrealistic expectations put on him by the fans. A lot of you have put him on a pedastal WAY too high. No wonder he would be hesitant recording again. "The voice" "incomperable" "No one can touch him"...

All bullshit by the way. There are so many amazing singers out there. He is just your favorite. Using those terms is insulting to many great singers who still continue to perform in their late 50's and early 60's. (Dio, Robin Zander, etc)

Those guys may have even lost a slight bit, although I am hard pressed to notice.

The point is, I would completely accept Steve Perry recording again, with whatever limitations he may or may not have in 2007. The loons though have raised the bar so high in expectations though that I don't blame him really for staying retired. Of course if he sounded like shit in his return, the loons would defend it and say it was the greatest new CD ever anyway. And of course those of us tired of all the flowery praise, would remind you all that it wasn't (just like Trial By Fire and FTLOSM) :wink:

Anyway, I'd love to hear new material from Steve Perry. I respect artists that continue to be creative as they age and add to their body of work. I can deal with the limitations that time brings to all of us. The challenge is to utilize what talent you still have and make it work.


Ed, you know I luv ya, but you're really full of shit here!! :|

The "Loons" aren't to blame for SP's absence. The "Loons" would give anything to get a new CD from him, because they appreciate the entire package that is Steve Perry. Not only the voice, but also the heart and soul that he puts into everything he sings.

If SP's confidence is shaken, it's by people who criticize his work, especially ROR and TBF, and say FTLOSM is a disaster. These people blame Steve Perry for all that has possibly gone wrong in the Journey camp during his tenure. These people say they want to hear new music, but I'm sure that when or if we get it, they will be the first to pick it apart in order to affirm that they were right, he has 'lost' it.

You often talk about how there are other 60 year olds out there who are still singing and doing an okay job. That's wonderful for them. They have made the choice to do so, either because they need to, or simply because they want to. We all know SP doesn't need to perform, but most of us are hoping that he will want to again very soon.

I can assure you of this: saying things like "Fuck you Pelican boy" and "go play with your kitty" are not ways to encourage Mr. Perry to sing...



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Postby donnaplease » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:34 am

ohsherrie wrote:
Donna, you are my hero. :D


Awww, that's so sweet!!! Image
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Postby TRAGChick » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:34 am

saint John wrote:Steve is a very mysterious person. I think if he did attempt a comeback he would make sure he was close enough to his old self that he wouldn't have to deal with those parody questions. I suspect that if he couldn't, in his mind, reach those notes or come close, he would simply stay retired or sing something more suited to his current voice.


J-Man, I KNEW you'd be the first to clock in here! LOL :lol:

He was in a studio recently, but what came of those sessions remains unknown to the general public.


:shock:

You CANNOT leave us hangin' here....:wink:

I suspect his voice is at or near the ROR days. The amount of rest he's had should have healed all that time could.


Although it was from the UJB show, and not the "final product", I listened VERY INTENTLY to Steve's contribution to the Guff cover song in the Chorus, the "echoing" of the Lead Singer, and the belting-out-YELLING at the end - "I CAN SEE IT IN YOUR EEEEYYYYEES!!":

He's still got that unmistakeable "sound" - and it sounds healthier than ROR - closer to Frontiers, to my ears.

I think the road is simply something that scares the hell out of him and makes him ponder whether or not old vices might surface, should he choose to tour again. I'm quite certain we'll hear from him again, but with the exception of a "one-off" Journey gig, doubt we'll see him tour again. As I said before, I'll be anywhere, at anytime, for any cost, should he choose to perform again.


I prefer what JeremyP had to say about that:
I don't see why, if he puts out an album, it has to be labeled as a comeback. Why can't he just say, "I'm ready put out an album. Here it is, no strings attached."?
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Postby ohsherrie » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:35 am

donnaplease wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
Donna, you are my hero. :D


Awww, that's so sweet!!! Image


:lol: :wink:
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Postby Playitloudforme » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:08 am

I thought what Steve did with Guff was absolutely brilliant. I play that sucker daily full blast on the Pasadena Freeway, windows down. Oh yeah. I agree with Nora, the quality is far better than ROR or TBF for clarity.

Things are going to go on Steve's schedule or not at all. We just have a hard time with it cause it doesn't match our schedule of wants/needs. I doubt it's fearbased - but quality based. I've no problem waiting, because when it does come out (a when, not if in my book), it'll kick ass. It's going to have to be at a level that he's going to be happy with tho, we all know he likes it at a certain level of of quality. It'll happen. As far as a tour... I still think he will do 'something', but he won't do the full out cover the entire country thing like he did when he was with Journey. A few selected cities.

What I think would prompt him to get back in the studio is what's happened already... the revival of interest in the music that he spent his lifetime doing. The popularity of DSB on the OC - surrrrrpriiiiisssssee! There'd have to be a market for it, and the trend is finally leaning away from Rap/Hiphop back to rock. His name still pops up in the news. Time is right. I just hope he sees that too.

And don't I wish I was psychic...
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Postby Rick » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:26 am

Playitloudforme wrote:I thought what Steve did with Guff was absolutely brilliant. I play that sucker daily full blast on the Pasadena Freeway, windows down. Oh yeah. I agree with Nora, the quality is far better than ROR or TBF for clarity.

Things are going to go on Steve's schedule or not at all. We just have a hard time with it cause it doesn't match our schedule of wants/needs. I doubt it's fearbased - but quality based. I've no problem waiting, because when it does come out (a when, not if in my book), it'll kick ass. It's going to have to be at a level that he's going to be happy with tho, we all know he likes it at a certain level of of quality. It'll happen. As far as a tour... I still think he will do 'something', but he won't do the full out cover the entire country thing like he did when he was with Journey. A few selected cities.

What I think would prompt him to get back in the studio is what's happened already... the revival of interest in the music that he spent his lifetime doing. The popularity of DSB on the OC - surrrrrpriiiiisssssee! There'd have to be a market for it, and the trend is finally leaning away from Rap/Hiphop back to rock. His name still pops up in the news. Time is right. I just hope he sees that too.

And don't I wish I was psychic...



I hope it's something with a nice edge to it. Something like he did with Guff, just not quite so punk. I just hope it isn't a sappy ballad album. The old boy needs to rock!
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Postby Playitloudforme » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:36 am

I like the punk... lol. I thought it was a kick ass way to do that song - but yeah... give me some good rock over a ballad. I don't mind a ballad, but he does such a great job on the rockers too.
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Postby AR » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:05 am

really, no disrespect to my friend Donna or annyone.

Steve Perry needs to be punched in his fucking face. He is a little diva bitch and makes Journey a faggy girl band.

FUCK HIM!!!!!!!

aS GREAT AS HE was, HE MADE THEM A SHE BAND. Go play with your pussy Steve. Puss.
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