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Purple Rain/Faithfully

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:14 am
by Eric
Does anyone have the interview where Cain said Prince called him about "borrowing" Faithfully for Purple Rain?

Also, does anyone have where JSS played Purple Rain and Faithfully together as one song this past fall? I thought it was on youtube but I can't find it....

Thanks

Re: Purple Rain/Faithfully

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:42 am
by larryfromnextdoor
Eric wrote:Does anyone have the interview where Cain said Prince called him about "borrowing" Faithfully for Purple Rain?

Also, does anyone have where JSS played Purple Rain and Faithfully together as one song this past fall? I thought it was on youtube but I can't find it....

Thanks


schon and jss played purple rain/ faithfully at the ARF show..audio only.. the cain interview is in the melodic rock achives of interviews i think.. or go to search and type in CAIN,, that should do it .. 8)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:22 am
by montyollie

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:23 am
by montyollie
ETA:

Jon: Well they always say that, you know, imitation is the best form of flattery so
Steve: Yeah that's true, that true.
Vicki: Yeah
M: Mmm Hmm
Neal: or
Jon: It's kind of flattering when like Prince I mean he
Vicki: Prince
Steve: Oh Yeah
Neal: or
Jon: He, he called up he took the chords from "Faithfully" and put em' in "Purple Rain" and didn't realize it until you know, he heard our song and then his manager called up and said jeez, Prince is awfully sorry but um um
M: And he'll pay you so don't worry about it
Steve: Listen, listen, listen to this, the last chords of "Purple Rain, Purple Rain(Sung w/guitar)" which is the end of "Faithfully," just so you know.
F: You guys do it better.
M: They're still breathing heavy in here because of you guys.
Steve: That was "Faithfully," okay.
Vicki: Okay
Steve: Okay. But he asked us yeah.
Neal: or
Jon: That was very nice of him to call.
Steve: He called and says "Forgive me I've made a mistake."
Neal: or
Jon: And we said good luck, have a hit.
M: That's nice.
Vicki: Nice, nice guys at you?
Neal: It was good for us it should be great for you.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:34 am
by Eric
Thanks Guys....

Found the video on JSS's site too, originally saw it on youtube

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:45 am
by whocares
That whole exchange (above from the interview) makes little sense, when reading it out of context, then again, whenever I heard an interview with the guys, there was so much talking over each other, it was hard to tell what was going on.

I never once made any connection between the songs, and frankly love both songs. It won't make me go listen to each and try to line up parts to see what's close, but it's nice that Prince has always acknowledged great music from other people. Everyone is influenced by other people. It just takes someone else to notice the influences sometimes.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:26 am
by JeremyP
The only word that Neal can get in until the last line of the interview is "or". :D

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:31 am
by *Laura
JeremyP wrote:The only word that Neal can get in until the last line of the interview is "or". :D

OMG. :lol: If laughter kills,today is my dying day. :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:48 am
by Deb
JeremyP wrote:The only word that Neal can get in until the last line of the interview is "or". :D


I thought he had the hiccups. :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:19 am
by belar
montyollie wrote:http://www.prince.org/msg/7/222210

Check out this too: http://www.journey-tribute.com/journey/ ... burgh.html


Why does Neal keep saying "or"? Sounds like he's disturbed or something.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:58 am
by NealIsGod
belar wrote:
montyollie wrote:http://www.prince.org/msg/7/222210

Check out this too: http://www.journey-tribute.com/journey/ ... burgh.html


Why does Neal keep saying "or"? Sounds like he's disturbed or something.


OR not. :P

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:51 am
by frfksakes
I remember hearing that interview - it was a funny free-for-all. At the time I didn’t understand half of what was said, so it’s fun to read an attempt at a transcript. Boy that Perry is a dirty, dirty boy. There are a few demos out there with him and his panty-fetish-rantings, too… lol. :lol:

Thanks for sharing the interview

I wonder if Jon now wishes he took Prince up on his monetary offer... :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:26 pm
by Jeremey
montyollie wrote:Jon: And we said good luck, have a hit.


Have a hit of whatever was being smoked during that interview?! :D

Personally I never put the two songs together at all. Played side by side, it sure is the same chord progression, but the melody isn't really similar. Jonathan Cain was so generous back then. :roll:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:02 am
by Art Vandelay
You know what I've always felt sounded similar to Faithfully...Elton's 'Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me.'

They're obviously two different songs, and I'm not saying that anything was borrowed/stolen from DLTSGDOM. But the melody and structure is very similar.

Steve Smith credits Nigel Ollsen as a big influence on playing ballads. You can hear that big time in this song. Smith uses the same approach on the drum fills towards the middle/end.

Re: Purple Rain/Faithfully

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:24 am
by Lora
Eric wrote:Does anyone have the interview where Cain said Prince called him about "borrowing" Faithfully for Purple Rain?


Steve discussed this in the interview he did for the Open Arms Anthology songbook that was released last year:

SP - After this song (Faithfully) was a hit, we got a tape from the management of Prince. There was a song called "Purple Rain," and the manager said this was going to be the title of his upcoming film. They were concerned about releasing it, thinking we might come after them for copyright infringement. We were given this cassette in advance of the release of the film, to make sure there were not going to be any problems. Prince had inadvertently used the same chord changes as in the outro of "Faithfully." Though he was singing the words "purple rain" over them, they were still the same changes. I remember Neal and Jon saying, "It's okay." I thought that if they're okay with it, then so was I so we told them it would not be a problem.

Re: Purple Rain/Faithfully

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:38 am
by Granny
Lora wrote:
Eric wrote:Does anyone have the interview where Cain said Prince called him about "borrowing" Faithfully for Purple Rain?


Steve discussed this in the interview he did for the Open Arms Anthology songbook that was released last year:

SP - After this song (Faithfully) was a hit, we got a tape from the management of Prince. There was a song called "Purple Rain," and the manager said this was going to be the title of his upcoming film. They were concerned about releasing it, thinking we might come after them for copyright infringement. We were given this cassette in advance of the release of the film, to make sure there were not going to be any problems. Prince had inadvertently used the same chord changes as in the outro of "Faithfully." Though he was singing the words "purple rain" over them, they were still the same changes. I remember Neal and Jon saying, "It's okay." I thought that if they're okay with it, then so was I so we told them it would not be a problem.


Thanks, Lora, we can always count on you for correct info....Now that makes more sense.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:30 am
by Jeremey
I wonder who has a higher voice, Prince or Steve Perry?

A favorite line from a Prince Song - Bob George - "Prince? You mean that skinny motherfucker with the high voice?"

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:44 am
by Saint John
E5C4P33 wrote:You know what I've always felt sounded similar to Faithfully...Elton's 'Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me.'

They're obviously two different songs, and I'm not saying that anything was borrowed/stolen from DLTSGDOM. But the melody and structure is very similar.

Steve Smith credits Nigel Ollsen as a big influence on playing ballads. You can hear that big time in this song. Smith uses the same approach on the drum fills towards the middle/end.



Since Elton is a fag the name of the song SHOULD have been "Don't Let Your Son Go Down On Me."