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Takara cds arrived today.

I don't know much about this effort. any insights would be appreciated. Jeff? Eric? Bob? I see that Lonely Shade of Blue is here. I thought that was Jeff's song. (I love that song!!)

awesome stuff so far!! incredible bass lines on Eternal Faith! atta boy, Gary. (did YOU vote today?)

thanks for your thoughts.

I love Lonely Shade of Blue too

I personally think the Takara stuff are kind of "average" compared to other projects Jeff's beein involved with. I think part of that might be that I prefer Marcel Jacobs songwritting/bass lines.

GirlLikeYou wrote:
awesome stuff so far!! incredible bass lines on Eternal Faith! atta boy, Gary. (did YOU vote today?)

Who is this Gary person you're so obsessed with, GLY?

Matthew wrote:

GirlLikeYou wrote:
awesome stuff so far!! incredible bass lines on Eternal Faith! atta boy, Gary. (did YOU vote today?)

Who is this Gary person you're so obsessed with, GLY?

Gary Schutt. Played bass on Gods, and Queen tribute, did a cd with Jeff, among other things. Recently did NAMM with him. Gary and Jeff have been friends for years and work together alot. Gary also has his own stuff going on. Plays lead, bass, drums, writes, produces, etc.

TVL wrote:

Matthew wrote:

GirlLikeYou wrote:
awesome stuff so far!! incredible bass lines on Eternal Faith! atta boy, Gary. (did YOU vote today?)

Who is this Gary person you're so obsessed with, GLY?

Gary Schutt. Played bass on Gods, and Queen tribute, did a cd with Jeff, among other things. Recently did NAMM with him. Gary and Jeff have been friends for years and work together alot. Gary also has his own stuff going on. Plays lead, bass, drums, writes, produces, etc.

Ah...okay...thanks TVL. But is he a Bass Legend like - say - Geddy Lee, Chris Squire or Randy Jackson? I mean...other than his friendship with JSS...I'm not sure I quite get why he's mentioned so often on this forum.

TVL wrote:

Matthew wrote:

GirlLikeYou wrote:
awesome stuff so far!! incredible bass lines on Eternal Faith! atta boy, Gary. (did YOU vote today?)

Who is this Gary person you're so obsessed with, GLY?

Gary Schutt. Played bass on Gods, and Queen tribute, did a cd with Jeff, among other things. Recently did NAMM with him. Gary and Jeff have been friends for years and work together alot. Gary also has his own stuff going on. Plays lead, bass, drums, writes, produces, etc.

AND in addition to all of above, he is a maestro at DVD-Authoring. He produced Talismans "Worlds Best Kept Secret" DVD (and of course the Gods and Queen DVD's as well).
If I had to choose my ALL STAR band, He would be playing the Guitar, Marcel Bass, Jeff Vox of course, Neal on lead Guitars and Patrick Johansson on drums and Derik Sherian on Keyboard .

Matthew wrote:

TVL wrote:

Matthew wrote:

GirlLikeYou wrote:
awesome stuff so far!! incredible bass lines on Eternal Faith! atta boy, Gary. (did YOU vote today?)

Who is this Gary person you're so obsessed with, GLY?

Gary Schutt. Played bass on Gods, and Queen tribute, did a cd with Jeff, among other things. Recently did NAMM with him. Gary and Jeff have been friends for years and work together alot. Gary also has his own stuff going on. Plays lead, bass, drums, writes, produces, etc.

Ah...okay...thanks TVL. But is he a Bass Legend like - say - Geddy Lee, Chris Squire or Randy Jackson? I mean...other than his friendship with JSS...I'm not sure I quite get why he's mentioned so often on this forum.

Randy Jackson?? A bass legend?? That's kind of funny

Matthew wrote:

TVL wrote:

Matthew wrote:

GirlLikeYou wrote:
awesome stuff so far!! incredible bass lines on Eternal Faith! atta boy, Gary. (did YOU vote today?)

Who is this Gary person you're so obsessed with, GLY?

Gary Schutt. Played bass on Gods, and Queen tribute, did a cd with Jeff, among other things. Recently did NAMM with him. Gary and Jeff have been friends for years and work together alot. Gary also has his own stuff going on. Plays lead, bass, drums, writes, produces, etc.

Ah...okay...thanks TVL. But is he a Bass Legend like - say - Geddy Lee, Chris Squire or Randy Jackson? I mean...other than his friendship with JSS...I'm not sure I quite get why he's mentioned so often on this forum.

No, he's not a bass legend. He's a friend of mine. Lives near me and has a band that plays in clubs in Florida. He's done alot of solo work too. Been working on a new album. Here's his newest solo release.

Love Me For Me~ Gary Schutt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxUQAaqr3MA

and here is his website if you want to check him out.

www.GarySchutt.com

StevePerryHair wrote:

Matthew wrote:

TVL wrote:

Matthew wrote:

GirlLikeYou wrote:
awesome stuff so far!! incredible bass lines on Eternal Faith! atta boy, Gary. (did YOU vote today?)

Who is this Gary person you're so obsessed with, GLY?

Gary Schutt. Played bass on Gods, and Queen tribute, did a cd with Jeff, among other things. Recently did NAMM with him. Gary and Jeff have been friends for years and work together alot. Gary also has his own stuff going on. Plays lead, bass, drums, writes, produces, etc.

Ah...okay...thanks TVL. But is he a Bass Legend like - say - Geddy Lee, Chris Squire or Randy Jackson? I mean...other than his friendship with JSS...I'm not sure I quite get why he's mentioned so often on this forum.

Randy Jackson?? A bass legend?? That's kind of funny

"I'm legendary, DAWG!"

Great bass player, but not a legend.
Stu Hamm, Billy Sheehan and Marcel Jacob are Bass Legends!

StevePerryHair wrote:

Matthew wrote:

TVL wrote:

Matthew wrote:

GirlLikeYou wrote:
awesome stuff so far!! incredible bass lines on Eternal Faith! atta boy, Gary. (did YOU vote today?)

Who is this Gary person you're so obsessed with, GLY?

Gary Schutt. Played bass on Gods, and Queen tribute, did a cd with Jeff, among other things. Recently did NAMM with him. Gary and Jeff have been friends for years and work together alot. Gary also has his own stuff going on. Plays lead, bass, drums, writes, produces, etc.

Ah...okay...thanks TVL. But is he a Bass Legend like - say - Geddy Lee, Chris Squire or Randy Jackson? I mean...other than his friendship with JSS...I'm not sure I quite get why he's mentioned so often on this forum.

Randy Jackson?? A bass legend?? That's kind of funny

I was waiting for someone to pick me up on that!

(even though it's true...in my house anyway).

StevePerryHair wrote: Ah...okay...thanks TVL. But is he a Bass Legend like - say - Geddy Lee, Chris Squire or Randy Jackson? I mean...other than his friendship with JSS...I'm not sure I quite get why he's mentioned so often on this forum.


Randy Jackson?? A bass legend?? That's kind of funny

Agreed. And there IS no bassist for this band but Ross Valory.

Red13JoePa wrote:

StevePerryHair wrote: Ah...okay...thanks TVL. But is he a Bass Legend like - say - Geddy Lee, Chris Squire or Randy Jackson? I mean...other than his friendship with JSS...I'm not sure I quite get why he's mentioned so often on this forum.


Randy Jackson?? A bass legend?? That's kind of funny

Agreed. And there IS no bassist for this band but Ross Valory.

I've got to disagree with you there, Red. Valory was the best player for - say - Escape but Jackson was the best for ROR.

Who gives a rip about "funky?" It's Journey not Frankie Goes To Hollywood.
While I think Jaxon functioned for ROR, I think the bottoms of the songs would've more typically precise, subtle, and solid with Ross Valory.

However, I feel the Londin drums worked swimmingly for the project, I prefer harder-hitting drums ergo Deen C's my all-time favorite Journey drummer.

thanks for all the input, y'all.

actually, Matthew, no one is a legend until a buncha people figure out that the person SHOULD be a legend. gotta start somewhere, eh? that's why he is mentioned so much. take a listen and look at all that Gary has done and you might change your mind. he plays bass ,guitar, keys, drums at a virtuostic level, writes it all himself, sings it, films it, produces it, does the artwork and would buy you a meal if you were with him. (i.e. nice guy) his new instrumental cd is going to be incredible. He's an unbelievable talent and we are just trying to get the word out about him and what he is doing because he is making a push to promote some things he is doing and we are giving him a leg up. K? follow the links in the other thread to view his video and songs and then vote (gotta get that in).

so, who is this other "neal" guy. is this his only project? where is from? discuss......

Red13JoePa wrote:Who gives a rip about "funky?" It's Journey not Frankie Goes To Hollywood.
While I think Jaxon functioned for ROR, I think the bottoms of the songs would've more typically precise, subtle, and solid with Ross Valory.

.

Well, Perry, Schon and Cain obviously cared about the funky aspects of the record otherwise they wouldn't have hired him. And on I'll Be Alright Without You (and indeed on After The Fall on Frontiers) the 'groove' is a key part of the song. Listen to Jackson on - say - the last minute or so on IBAWY and it's obvious Journey made the right choice.

Also - Jackson played in a solid, driving style too - on BGTY.

Having said all this...Valory's playing works brilliantly on Escape and although Jackson could play those parts with his hands tied behind his back I doubt he would have brought the right 'feel' to Escape.

GirlLikeYou wrote:thanks for all the input, y'all.

actually, Matthew, no one is a legend until a buncha people figure out that the person SHOULD be a legend. gotta start somewhere, eh? that's why he is mentioned so much. take a listen and look at all that Gary has done and you might change your mind. he plays bass ,guitar, keys, drums at a virtuostic level, writes it all himself, sings it, films it, produces it, does the artwork and would buy you a meal if you were with him. (i.e. nice guy) his new instrumental cd is going to be incredible. He's an unbelievable talent and we are just trying to get the word out about him and what he is doing because he is making a push to promote some things he is doing and we are giving him a leg up. K? follow the links in the other thread to view his video and songs and then vote (gotta get that in).

so, who is this other "neal" guy. is this his only project? where is from? discuss......

Matthew wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:

StevePerryHair wrote: Ah...okay...thanks TVL. But is he a Bass Legend like - say - Geddy Lee, Chris Squire or Randy Jackson? I mean...other than his friendship with JSS...I'm not sure I quite get why he's mentioned so often on this forum.


Randy Jackson?? A bass legend?? That's kind of funny

Agreed. And there IS no bassist for this band but Ross Valory.

I've got to disagree with you there, Red. Valory was the best player for - say - Escape but Jackson was the best for ROR.

GirlLikeYou wrote:thanks for all the input, y'all.

actually, Matthew, no one is a legend until a buncha people figure out that the person SHOULD be a legend. gotta start somewhere, eh? that's why he is mentioned so much. take a listen and look at all that Gary has done and you might change your mind. he plays bass ,guitar, keys, drums at a virtuostic level, writes it all himself, sings it, films it, produces it, does the artwork and would buy you a meal if you were with him. (i.e. nice guy) his new instrumental cd is going to be incredible. He's an unbelievable talent and we are just trying to get the word out about him and what he is doing because he is making a push to promote some things he is doing and we are giving him a leg up. K? follow the links in the other thread to view his video and songs and then vote (gotta get that in).

so, who is this other "neal" guy. is this his only project? where is from? discuss......

You're right GLY...and I was speaking from a position of total ignorance. What's the best song to start off with?

StevePerryHair wrote:

GirlLikeYou wrote:thanks for all the input, y'all.

actually, Matthew, no one is a legend until a buncha people figure out that the person SHOULD be a legend. gotta start somewhere, eh? that's why he is mentioned so much. take a listen and look at all that Gary has done and you might change your mind. he plays bass ,guitar, keys, drums at a virtuostic level, writes it all himself, sings it, films it, produces it, does the artwork and would buy you a meal if you were with him. (i.e. nice guy) his new instrumental cd is going to be incredible. He's an unbelievable talent and we are just trying to get the word out about him and what he is doing because he is making a push to promote some things he is doing and we are giving him a leg up. K? follow the links in the other thread to view his video and songs and then vote (gotta get that in).

so, who is this other "neal" guy. is this his only project? where is from? discuss......

Would anyone even know who Randy Jackson was, as a bass player, if he hadn't played for Journey?? I guess that's the point here, there are many many talented musicians out there, and without word of mouth and being found they will never be legendary. Not all of them need to be legendary anyway. They just love and enjoy playing and getting to do what they love. This forum has many off topic things in it, and I say if we want to discuss Gary Schutt, we should be able to. He's more related to the subject than most of the other stuff people come up with.

GirlLikeYou wrote:

Why the lack of love for Jackson? I wonder...is he just too black for the typical Journey fan out there in the heartlands? Or too...er...stylishly dressed?

What's with all this sentimentality toward Ross? No-one ever puts twisted evil faces next to posts about Steve Smith. But what about poor old Dunbar? Ruthlessly fired by the band...etc...etc...but no-one sheds a tear or gives his replacement a hard time.

I say it's time to open your hearts to Randy...even though it's about twenty years too late..but as you say...you've got to start somewhere.

StevePerryHair wrote:I say if we want to discuss Gary Schutt, we should be able to. He's more related to the subject than most of the other stuff people come up with.

I wasn't saying you couldn't discuss Gary Schutt. I was merely asking why he was being discussed so often.

Matthew wrote:

GirlLikeYou wrote:thanks for all the input, y'all.

actually, Matthew, no one is a legend until a buncha people figure out that the person SHOULD be a legend. gotta start somewhere, eh? that's why he is mentioned so much. take a listen and look at all that Gary has done and you might change your mind. he plays bass ,guitar, keys, drums at a virtuostic level, writes it all himself, sings it, films it, produces it, does the artwork and would buy you a meal if you were with him. (i.e. nice guy) his new instrumental cd is going to be incredible. He's an unbelievable talent and we are just trying to get the word out about him and what he is doing because he is making a push to promote some things he is doing and we are giving him a leg up. K? follow the links in the other thread to view his video and songs and then vote (gotta get that in).

so, who is this other "neal" guy. is this his only project? where is from? discuss......

You're right GLY...and I was speaking from a position of total ignorance. What's the best song to start off with?

Love Me For Me--his video and song. wrote it, sang it, bass, guitar, drums and vocals, (hired musicians for the video-those guys will tour with him) made the video.

Stranded-from Sentimental.

The entire Palisade album is excellent.( getitgetitgetitgetit)

his solo stuff is quite a bit harder than the Takara, which is ok by me.

the Queens' dvd --he's a monster on the Queen's bass stuff plus he produced that video, and sang

Live at the Gods 2002. the acoustic set is amazing. he produced this video also. bass guitar and vocals.

you can listen to samples at garyschutt.com, and there are videos clips

I'll check back later.........

Matthew wrote:

GirlLikeYou wrote:

Why the lack of love for Jackson? I wonder...is he just too black for the typical Journey fan out there in the heartlands? Or too...er...stylishly dressed?

What's with all this sentimentality toward Ross? No-one ever puts twisted evil faces next to posts about Steve Smith. But what about poor old Dunbar? Ruthlessly fired by the band...etc...etc...but no-one sheds a tear or gives his replacement a hard time.

I say it's time to open your hearts to Randy...even though it's about twenty years too late..but as you say...you've got to start somewhere.

Randy was part of Journey for what, 1 year. Maybe if he had played with them for more years we would give him more credit than we do. There are black musicians whose music I love so don't even try to use that. Yeah, maybe his stylish spandex and pink polka dotted guitar in the 80's was just too much for me to handle

Matthew wrote:




Why the lack of love for Jackson?

It's not a lack of love, as he was ok, but rather an abscence of "Jackson Loonery."



How do you keep it straight, being both a loon and Jacksonloon?

Red13JoePa wrote:

Matthew wrote:




Why the lack of love for Jackson?

It's not a lack of love, as he was ok, but rather an abscence of "Jackson Loonery."



How do you keep it straight, being both a loon and Jacksonloon?

Red - I'm not a JacksonLoon because I'm a fan of Valory too. You however cannot tolerate anyone other than Valory playing bass in Journey...so I'm afraid...the Loon is you.

GirlLikeYou wrote:Takara cds arrived today.

I don't know much about this effort. any insights would be appreciated. Jeff? Eric? Bob? I see that Lonely Shade of Blue is here. I thought that was Jeff's song. (I love that song!!)

awesome stuff so far!! incredible bass lines on Eternal Faith! atta boy, Gary. (did YOU vote today?)

thanks for your thoughts.

Takara is a lot of fun, it has been guitarist Neal Grusky's baby since the inception and Jeff brought some incredible magic to the songs during his tenure. I learned a lot from watching Jeff work on these tracks. The Eternity album features the best of the Jeff years, and there are soundclips on the band's My Space page at http://www.myspace.com/takararocks.

I am also a huge Marcel fan (great writer too!), but to Gary Schutt's credit he is a versatile utility man who can do it all - sing lead, high harmonies, play bass, guitar, keyboards, mix, produce videos, etc. He is also funny as hell and extremely humble - just the kind of guy you would want in a band. Check out his video and vote, it is phenomenal!

Matthew wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:

Matthew wrote:




Why the lack of love for Jackson?

It's not a lack of love, as he was ok, but rather an abscence of "Jackson Loonery."



How do you keep it straight, being both a loon and Jacksonloon?

Red - I'm not a JacksonLoon because I'm a fan of Valory too. You however cannot tolerate anyone other than Valory playing bass in Journey...so I'm afraid...the Loon is you.

I'm a Valoryhead, I guess, not a loon.
that, however, has FAR more backup justification than chartering the Loyal Order Of Randy Jackson And His 1 Album Body Of Work Fanclub.