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Voices of Rock

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:47 pm
by *Laura
This is a hard one,but I gotta know.I am having this debate at least 10 times a year with people and it ends up in flames. :lol:
Polls like this have been done quite often,I know...I guess one more can't hurt.

This is not about the whole package (best entertainer,frontman,number of years in the biz),it's just about the quality of the voice,skills,technique,range,uniqueness...you get it.

These are the singers that I came up with from the top of my head,the ones that usually make it to the list,but if there are others I forgot,please use the option and post the name(s).

I was tempted to add Ann Wilson,but while she has no rival among the female rock singers and even beats some of the males,an all-male Poll is better in this case.

Re: Voices of Rock

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:54 pm
by FinnFreak
Shania wrote:I was tempted to add Ann Wilson,but while she has no rival among the female rock singers and even beats some of the males,an all-male Poll is better in this case.


IMO the Reigning Queen in Rock at the moment is Sharon den Adel of Within Temptation - but that's just me. ;)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Within_temptation

Re: Voices of Rock

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:19 pm
by Wheels Of Fyre
Shania wrote:This is a hard one,but I gotta know.I am having this debate at least 10 times a year with people and it ends up in flames. :lol:
Polls like this have been done quite often,I know...I guess one more can't hurt.

This is not about the whole package (best entertainer,frontman,number of years in the biz),it's just about the quality of the voice,skills,technique,range,uniqueness...you get it.

These are the singers that I came up with from the top of my head,the ones that usually make it to the list,but if there are others I forgot,please use the option and post the name(s).

I was tempted to add Ann Wilson,but while she has no rival among the female rock singers and even beats some of the males,an all-male Poll is better in this case.


I went with "Other". I think you have to be more specific and categorize. For example, "Best Melodic Rock Voice" & "Best Heavy Metal Voice". Trying to choose between SP and Dio is impossible for me because they sing such different types of material. Not having clear categories could also be the source of your debates, too :wink:

You've categorized this as all-male and I think that's smart. There's a good list of female vocalists. Pat Benatar, Patty Smyth (who Van Halen originally asked to replace DLR!), Janis Joplin (who I think is the greatest), Lita Ford, Stevie Nicks, Chrissie Hynde, Joan Jett, etc.

I'd have to say Elvis is the greatest male rock vocalist. He kicked off the genre and then transcended it. That's something JOURNEY has yet to do since SP. With SP they transcended their early progressive style. Then with JC they transcended the Gregg Rolie influences. With ROR they transcended their own rock influences. They just haven't transcended anything since. Transcending is what made Elvis, The Beatles - many of "the greats" - great.

Re: Voices of Rock

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:20 pm
by *Laura
FinnFreak wrote:
IMO the Reigning Queen in Rock at the moment is Sharon den Adel of Within Temptation - but that's just me. ;)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Within_temptation

Interesting...Can't say I'm a fan of the genre,but I'm going to check her out. :)


Btw,anyone knows how to edit the Poll?I just noticed that Brad Delp ended up being the title of it. :oops:

Re: Voices of Rock

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:33 pm
by *Laura
FyreWyngz wrote:I went with "Other". I think you have to be more specific and categorize. For example, "Best Melodic Rock Voice" & "Best Heavy Metal Voice". Trying to choose between SP and Dio is impossible for me because they sing such different types of material. Not having clear categories could also be the source of your debates, too :wink:

Ah,I guess I just wanted a simple Poll and that's why I listed some classic voices that have been/are representative in Rock in general.
Of course that categorizing the genres would ease up the debates,but hey,why go soft when you can go rock? :lol: A good debate keeps the mind in shape...

I guess a vote for the voice that impressed *you* the most is what I was looking for.

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:47 pm
by Perry86fan
I went with Mr P is there any other? :D :D :D :D :D He should have been at the top of the poll. :D :D

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:55 pm
by NealIsGod
Yeah, Perry rules those guys. I am comparing everyone in their prime, of course.

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:59 pm
by FinnFreak
NealIsGod wrote:Yeah, Perry rules those guys. I am comparing everyone in their prime, of course.


Same here - that's what I'm here for. :D

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:10 pm
by Perry86fan
NealIsGod wrote:Yeah, Perry rules those guys. I am comparing everyone in their prime, of course.



Well you have to remember there was 5 guys in the band right?Well i feel very sure they could ALL be assholes not just MrP but ALL of them.

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:11 pm
by Perry86fan
FinnFreak wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Yeah, Perry rules those guys. I am comparing everyone in their prime, of course.


Same here - that's what I'm here for. :D


Lov ya sig! :D

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:22 pm
by NealIsGod
Perry86fan wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Yeah, Perry rules those guys. I am comparing everyone in their prime, of course.



Well you have to remember there was 5 guys in the band right?Well i feel very sure they could ALL be assholes not just MrP but ALL of them.


And the reason for that post was...?

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:23 pm
by Matthew
Perry for AOR - of course - but Dio is the best metal singer.

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:24 pm
by NealIsGod
Matthew wrote:Perry for AOR - of course - but Dio is the best metal singer.


I would pick Geoff Tate for that title.

Re: Voices of Rock

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:24 pm
by FinnFreak
Shania wrote:
FinnFreak wrote:
IMO the Reigning Queen in Rock at the moment is Sharon den Adel of Within Temptation - but that's just me. ;)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Within_temptation

Interesting...Can't say I'm a fan of the genre,but I'm going to check her out. :)


...here's one of my favorites from the latest album - The Heart Of Everything - unfortunately, this isn't as good a performance as I saw last week, but it gives you the idea:


Within Temptation - All I Need: http://youtube.com/watch?v=tymdNW9P7X4


http://www.myspace.com/withintemptation


Shania wrote:Btw,anyone knows how to edit the Poll?I just noticed that Brad Delp ended up being the title of it. :oops:


...and perhaps later on a poll for The Ladies in Rock as well..? :D

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:30 pm
by FinnFreak
NealIsGod wrote:
Matthew wrote:Perry for AOR - of course - but Dio is the best metal singer.


I would pick Geoff Tate for that title.


I have to agree again - besides the albums - his performance on MTV's Queensrÿche Unplugged is simply breathtaking..! 8)

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:32 pm
by FinnFreak
Perry86fan wrote:Lov ya sig! :D


Thanks..! ;)

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:42 pm
by Moon Beam
I would like to think that Perry would top this list
and wear the crooning crown but since he hasn't put
forth anything in over 10 yrs, I had to go with someone
who's still in the game......Paul Rogers for me.

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:25 pm
by Matthew
NealIsGod wrote:
Matthew wrote:Perry for AOR - of course - but Dio is the best metal singer.


I would pick Geoff Tate for that title.



Tate is a ridiculous singer. I can't believe you think he's anywhere near Dio's league, NIG.

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:45 pm
by heardonthestreet
I don't know.

I have a hard time choosing. :wink:

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:46 pm
by FinnFreak
Matthew wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Matthew wrote:Perry for AOR - of course - but Dio is the best metal singer.


I would pick Geoff Tate for that title.



Tate is a ridiculous singer. I can't believe you think he's anywhere near Dio's league, NIG.


:D - ...and that's probably the reason why Ronnie James Dio agreed to sing the Dr. X vocals on Queensrÿche's Operation: Mindcrime II..? :wink:

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:47 pm
by Greg
With some of those names, I think we're picking apples to oranges. I mean, some are pure metal singers, others are AOR.

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:51 pm
by *Laura
Matthew wrote:

Tate is a ridiculous singer.

:shock: Matthew!..."Geoff Tate" and "ridiculous" in the same sentence is...well,ridiculous!

Why do you say that about him? :?

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:51 pm
by FinnFreak
Greggie wrote:With some of those names, I think we're picking apples to oranges. I mean, some are pure metal singers, others are AOR.


...and why isn't Tony Martin (Black Sabbath, M3, The Alliance, Misha Calvin, The Cage, Giuntini Project II) up there..? :?


;)

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:53 pm
by Matthew
FinnFreak wrote:
Matthew wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Matthew wrote:Perry for AOR - of course - but Dio is the best metal singer.


I would pick Geoff Tate for that title.



Tate is a ridiculous singer. I can't believe you think he's anywhere near Dio's league, NIG.


:D - ...and that's probably the reason why Ronnie James Dio agreed to sing the Dr. X vocals on Queensrÿche's Operation: Mindcrime II..? :wink:


Exactly. He took pity on the band and gave their half-assed project some credibility. :)

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:55 pm
by Matthew
Shania wrote:
Matthew wrote:

Tate is a ridiculous singer.

:shock: Matthew!..."Geoff Tate" and "ridiculous" in the same sentence is...well,ridiculous!

Why do you say that about him? :?



Shania - I love "Queen of the Reich" - and it's definitely a metal classic. But Tate's pompous falsetto never fails to raise a smile. I mean...I like it but only in an ironic kind of a way. I can't take him seriously. I just can't.

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:06 pm
by knox
Perry will always be my favorite singer. I just can't find anyone better than Steve when he sang from 78-82.

Others that get my respect are Paul Rogers (Rodgers?), Rick Florian, John Elefante', Delp, of course, and Mercury.

Throw Soto in there, since I just recently discovered him. The fact that he can sing many styles of music is impressive. I like the emotion he sings with - it is true love of the music.

Oh, and I'm not just saying this because it's a Journey forum. I was blown away by his Edge Of The Blade and I'll Be Alright Without You.

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:10 pm
by *Laura
Matthew wrote:Shania - I love "Queen of the Reich" - and it's definitely a metal classic. But Tate's pompous falsetto never fails to raise a smile. I mean...I like it but only in an ironic kind of a way. I can't take him seriously. I just can't.

Never heard this before :o! I mean the whole industry and the metal fans take him as seriously as a heart attack...!
Sure,he has maybe a more theatrical ring to his voice than other rock singers,but that's what makes him unique.
I can't even imagine another vocal aproach to Op. Mindcrime!

I don't know...I guess it's a matter of what we each hear,after all...

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:11 pm
by heardonthestreet
knox wrote:Perry will always be my favorite singer. I just can't find anyone better than Steve when he sang from 78-82.

Others that get my respect are Paul Rogers (Rodgers?), Rick Florian, John Elefante', Delp, of course, and Mercury.

Throw Soto in there, since I just recently discovered him. The fact that he can sing many styles of music is impressive. I like the emotion he sings with - it is true love of the music.

Oh, and I'm not just saying this because it's a Journey forum. I was blown away by his Edge Of The Blade and I'll Be Alright Without You.






You talked me into it, Knox.

My vote is on Steve Perry. 8)

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:17 pm
by Matthew
knox wrote: I just can't find anyone better than Steve when he sang from 78-82.

.


Why stop there, Knox?

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:26 pm
by knox
Matthew wrote:
knox wrote: I just can't find anyone better than Steve when he sang from 78-82.

.


Why stop there, Knox?


Because I didn't care for his voice after 82, except for songs like Strung Out, Foolish Heart, It's Just The Rain, and Can't Tame The Lion. I don't care for the album Frontiers at all, nor do I like Strange Medicine.

I thought he sounded awful on the Memphis clips on YouTube as well.


I don't understand the question, unless you are trying to corner me as a "Perry can do no wrong" person - which I am not.

Care to elaborate?