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First Power Ballad

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:38 am
by styxman
Read an article in Rock Magazine yesterday, the journalist said to the Night Ranger members that Sister Christian was the start of the Power Ballad but to their credit both Keagy and Blades stated Journey were the first to introduce this...discuss

Re: First Power Ballad

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:42 am
by Saint John
styxman wrote:Read an article in Rock Magazine yesterday, the journalist said to the Night Ranger members that Sister Christian was the start of the Power Ballad but to their credit both Keagy and Blades stated Journey were the first to introduce this...discuss



I think Journey's first "power ballad" was Faithfully. Open Arms didn't have "power" it was just a ballad. You need more drums and guitar....hence the "power" part.

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:45 am
by ohsherrie
I think Open Arms was the first ballad to be catagorized as a Power Ballad but the nature of the catagory changed as more bands jumped on the wagon.

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:46 am
by Wally_Hatchet
First rock power ballads:
REO - Take It On The Run

edited - meant to add Keep On Loving You

Re: First Power Ballad

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:47 am
by Rockindeano
saint John wrote:
styxman wrote:Read an article in Rock Magazine yesterday, the journalist said to the Night Ranger members that Sister Christian was the start of the Power Ballad but to their credit both Keagy and Blades stated Journey were the first to introduce this...discuss



I think Journey's first "power ballad" was Faithfully. Open Arms didn't have "power" it was just a ballad. You need more drums and guitar....hence the "power" part.


Wrong.

If you listen to Open Arms, it does have some chops, and a omni guitar chord. OA live sounded really powerful when Perry sang it, and then again with Deen.

Journey pioneered it, then Dennis DeYoung heard it, pulled down his pants and started to feed the geese....and fed em until he wrote Babe....Then Kevin Cronin, also heard and he already had his cock in his femenine hands and he shot a ballads load worth all over the music sheet and you had Can't Fight this Feeling. Then of course BA got into the act and wrote the biggest song ever, Everything I Do, I do it for You.

Journey not only pioneered it, but perfected it. It haunts them to this day.

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:47 am
by Saint John
Wally_Hatchet wrote:First rock power ballads:
REO - Take It On The Run


I'm on the fence on that one. More of a "mid-tempo" to me than a power ballad.

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:48 am
by styxman
Wally_Hatchet wrote:First rock power ballads:
REO - Take It On The Run


I was thinking that myself but what about Meatloaf's contribution?

Re: First Power Ballad

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:49 am
by NealIsGod
RockinDeano wrote:
saint John wrote:
styxman wrote:Read an article in Rock Magazine yesterday, the journalist said to the Night Ranger members that Sister Christian was the start of the Power Ballad but to their credit both Keagy and Blades stated Journey were the first to introduce this...discuss



I think Journey's first "power ballad" was Faithfully. Open Arms didn't have "power" it was just a ballad. You need more drums and guitar....hence the "power" part.


Wrong.

If you listen to Open Arms, it does have some chops, and a omni guitar chord. OA live sounded really powerful when Perry sang it, and then again with Deen.

Journey pioneered it, then Dennis DeYoung heard it, pulled down his pants and started to feed the geese....and fed em until he wrote Babe....Then Kevin Cronin, also heard and he already had his cock in his femenine hands and he shot a ballads load worth all over the music sheet and you had Can't Fight this Feeling. Then of course BA got into the act and wrote the biggest song ever, Everything I Do, I do it for You.

Journey not only pioneered it, but perfected it. It haunts them to this day.


REO came out with Keep On Lovin' You well before Open Arms came out, didn't they?

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:50 am
by AR
Only Women Bleed - Alice Cooper 1975

Back to my silence.

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:51 am
by styxman
saint John wrote:
Wally_Hatchet wrote:First rock power ballads:
REO - Take It On The Run


I'm on the fence on that one. More of a "mid-tempo" to me than a power ballad.


I agree WITH THAT NOW SJ, not power but more mid tempo, what about that Air Supply song, makin' love out of...did that COME AFTER OR BEFORE fAITHFULLY? i THINK IT WAS 85, SO IT'S AFTER

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:53 am
by styxman
WHEN WAS BOSTONS CONTRIBUTION aMANDA, FUCK THIS CAPITALS O THE PC, I'M PISSED AND CAN'T BE ARSED KNOCKED THE Y KEY TO CHANGE IT

Re: First Power Ballad

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:54 am
by donnaplease
RockinDeano wrote:
Wrong.

If you listen to Open Arms, it does have some chops, and a omni guitar chord. OA live sounded really powerful when Perry sang it, and then again with Deen.

Journey pioneered it, then Dennis DeYoung heard it, pulled down his pants and started to feed the geese....and fed em until he wrote Babe....Then Kevin Cronin, also heard and he already had his cock in his femenine hands and he shot a ballads load worth all over the music sheet and you had Can't Fight this Feeling. Then of course BA got into the act and wrote the biggest song ever, Everything I Do, I do it for You.

Journey not only pioneered it, but perfected it. It haunts them to this day.


I LOVE 'Babe', and 'Can't Fight This Feeling' was my junior prom theme song. Weren't the 80's great!!!?? :D

Re: First Power Ballad

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:55 am
by Rockindeano
NealIsGod wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:
saint John wrote:
styxman wrote:Read an article in Rock Magazine yesterday, the journalist said to the Night Ranger members that Sister Christian was the start of the Power Ballad but to their credit both Keagy and Blades stated Journey were the first to introduce this...discuss



I think Journey's first "power ballad" was Faithfully. Open Arms didn't have "power" it was just a ballad. You need more drums and guitar....hence the "power" part.


Wrong.

If you listen to Open Arms, it does have some chops, and a omni guitar chord. OA live sounded really powerful when Perry sang it, and then again with Deen.

Journey pioneered it, then Dennis DeYoung heard it, pulled down his pants and started to feed the geese....and fed em until he wrote Babe....Then Kevin Cronin, also heard and he already had his cock in his femenine hands and he shot a ballads load worth all over the music sheet and you had Can't Fight this Feeling. Then of course BA got into the act and wrote the biggest song ever, Everything I Do, I do it for You.

Journey not only pioneered it, but perfected it. It haunts them to this day.


REO came out with Keep On Lovin' You well before Open Arms came out, didn't they?


Keep on Lovin You was in 1980, and OA in 81, but perhaps KOLY was seen as a mid tempo ballad?

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:55 am
by Rick
styxman wrote:WHEN WAS BOSTONS CONTRIBUTION aMANDA, FUCK THIS CAPITALS O THE PC, I'M PISSED AND CAN'T BE ARSED KNOCKED THE Y KEY TO CHANGE IT


You been hangin' with Moon Beam?

Re: First Power Ballad

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:55 am
by Saint John
RockinDeano wrote:
saint John wrote:
styxman wrote:Read an article in Rock Magazine yesterday, the journalist said to the Night Ranger members that Sister Christian was the start of the Power Ballad but to their credit both Keagy and Blades stated Journey were the first to introduce this...discuss



I think Journey's first "power ballad" was Faithfully. Open Arms didn't have "power" it was just a ballad. You need more drums and guitar....hence the "power" part.


Wrong.

If you listen to Open Arms, it does have some chops, and a omni guitar chord. OA live sounded really powerful when Perry sang it, and then again with Deen.

Journey pioneered it, then Dennis DeYoung heard it, pulled down his pants and started to feed the geese....and fed em until he wrote Babe....Then Kevin Cronin, also heard and he already had his cock in his femenine hands and he shot a ballads load worth all over the music sheet and you had Can't Fight this Feeling. Then of course BA got into the act and wrote the biggest song ever, Everything I Do, I do it for You.

Journey not only pioneered it, but perfected it. It haunts them to this day.



Several things.

1) "Everything I Do...." is more rancid than 2 year old cum in dog's ass. (Though it was successful)

2) What about "Unchained Melody" as the first power ballad? And that song was Top 5 over 30 years apart. BTW, it blows away BOTH Open Arms and Everything I Do.

Re: First Power Ballad

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:55 am
by ****
donnaplease wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:
Wrong.

If you listen to Open Arms, it does have some chops, and a omni guitar chord. OA live sounded really powerful when Perry sang it, and then again with Deen.

Journey pioneered it, then Dennis DeYoung heard it, pulled down his pants and started to feed the geese....and fed em until he wrote Babe....Then Kevin Cronin, also heard and he already had his cock in his femenine hands and he shot a ballads load worth all over the music sheet and you had Can't Fight this Feeling. Then of course BA got into the act and wrote the biggest song ever, Everything I Do, I do it for You.

Journey not only pioneered it, but perfected it. It haunts them to this day.


I LOVE 'Babe', and 'Can't Fight This Feeling' was my junior prom theme song. Weren't the 80's great!!!?? :D


1989 girl here - My Senior prom song was "why can't this night go on forever!"

Re: First Power Ballad

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:57 am
by Rick
Kimterp wrote:
donnaplease wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:
Wrong.

If you listen to Open Arms, it does have some chops, and a omni guitar chord. OA live sounded really powerful when Perry sang it, and then again with Deen.

Journey pioneered it, then Dennis DeYoung heard it, pulled down his pants and started to feed the geese....and fed em until he wrote Babe....Then Kevin Cronin, also heard and he already had his cock in his femenine hands and he shot a ballads load worth all over the music sheet and you had Can't Fight this Feeling. Then of course BA got into the act and wrote the biggest song ever, Everything I Do, I do it for You.

Journey not only pioneered it, but perfected it. It haunts them to this day.


I LOVE 'Babe', and 'Can't Fight This Feeling' was my junior prom theme song. Weren't the 80's great!!!?? :D


1989 girl here - My Senior prom song was "why can't this night go on forever!"


Damn, you're young! Great tune though.

Re: First Power Ballad

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:57 am
by Rockindeano
saint John wrote:
2) What about "Unchained Melody" as the first power ballad? And that song was Top 5 over 30 years apart.


Fuck, what an amazin song.

Re: First Power Ballad

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:57 am
by NealIsGod
RockinDeano wrote:
saint John wrote:
2) What about "Unchained Melody" as the first power ballad? And that song was Top 5 over 30 years apart.


Fuck, what an amazin song.


True dat.

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:58 am
by styxman
AR wrote:Only Women Bleed - Alice Cooper

Back to my silence.


wHY THE SILENCE DUDE..FUCK IT WAIT A MINUTE. That's better the capital key has been knocked. I read what you posted yesterday and don't worry we all post some silly shit for time to time.....shout a little more, Wombat's probably cutting the grass anyway :lol:

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:01 am
by NealIsGod
I guess it's not a "power ballad", but Beth by KISS was the first time a hard rock band came out with a ballad, wasn't it?

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:06 am
by Saint John
AR wrote:Only Women Bleed - Alice Cooper 1975

Back to my silence.


Fuck that....get ur ass back on here.

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:07 am
by styxman
I love Styx but Babe wasn't a song just a waste of space...period. When did the word Power Ballad first come in to circulation?

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:08 am
by 7 Wishes
NealIsGod wrote:I guess it's not a "power ballad", but Beth by KISS was the first time a hard rock band came out with a ballad, wasn't it?


"Beth" is a shit stain of a song. Criss couldn't write, play, or sing. I love Kiss live, but they're a bunch of no-talents. The stage show is second to none, though.

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:09 am
by NealIsGod

Re: First Power Ballad

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:09 am
by styxman
Kimterp wrote:
donnaplease wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:
Wrong.

If you listen to Open Arms, it does have some chops, and a omni guitar chord. OA live sounded really powerful when Perry sang it, and then again with Deen.

Journey pioneered it, then Dennis DeYoung heard it, pulled down his pants and started to feed the geese....and fed em until he wrote Babe....Then Kevin Cronin, also heard and he already had his cock in his femenine hands and he shot a ballads load worth all over the music sheet and you had Can't Fight this Feeling. Then of course BA got into the act and wrote the biggest song ever, Everything I Do, I do it for You.

Journey not only pioneered it, but perfected it. It haunts them to this day.


I LOVE 'Babe', and 'Can't Fight This Feeling' was my junior prom theme song. Weren't the 80's great!!!?? :D


1989 girl here - My Senior prom song was "why can't this night go on forever!"


I can't think straight but that's that great Starship tune..correct?

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:10 am
by ohsherrie
NealIsGod wrote:I guess it's not a "power ballad", but Beth by KISS was the first time a hard rock band came out with a ballad, wasn't it?


I kept thinking about that when I was posting before. I guess it comes down to that ever-changing definition of ballad. To me Open Arms was the first song slow enough to be a ballad but powerful enough to be a "rock" song.

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:11 am
by 7 Wishes
What about Nazareth's "Love Hurts"? 1976. Is "More Than a Feeling" considered a power ballad? I think it's one of the 10 greatest, most enduring rock songs ever, but I don't know how to classify it.

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:11 am
by styxman
NealIsGod wrote:OK, I'll do it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_ballad


Scorpions NIG..winds of..? Yep that's the first one :wink:

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:13 am
by Rockindeano
7 Wishes wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:I guess it's not a "power ballad", but Beth by KISS was the first time a hard rock band came out with a ballad, wasn't it?


"Beth" is a shit stain of a song. Criss couldn't write, play, or sing. I love Kiss live, but they're a bunch of no-talents. The stage show is second to none, though.


They are a bunch of escapees from Jerry's short bus. "Hey, let's all put on white make-up, and platform shoes, get some lights and fake it!" Um, you guys suck.