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Am I missing the obvious? I just read where Deano said Augeri's voice is back to 100%, so why not re-hire the guy. And before you start with tapegate, lets remember that beyond this circle the people that know about tapegate are few and far between. Yea you'd have to go with a lighter schedule to keep his voice strong, but it's doable.

Remember now, Augeri was singing close to 3 hour shows A NIGHT. If they just stick with the Dirt Dozen and put on an hour and a half show a night, and if his voice is back to 100% then I think he can handle. But it won't happen.

Sandman67 wrote:Am I missing the obvious? I just read where Deano said Augeri's voice is back to 100%, so why not re-hire the guy. And before you start with tapegate, lets remember that beyond this circle the people that know about tapegate are few and far between. Yea you'd have to go with a lighter schedule to keep his voice strong, but it's doable.

Augeri's Journey is over. They're looking for fresh meat. Someone new to stab in the back. They get off on it.

Besides, I dont think Augeri is that dumb to even accept any kind of offer from these guys. Once bitten twice shy!

SA solo tour. If it happens - I will go check it out for sure.

In the early days of this debacle, it was alluded to by Andrew that he WAS asked, but he turned it down.

I believe Andrew's exact quote, after stating Augeri would NOT be back, was: "I never said he wasn't asked."

I would hope he had enough self-respect to distance himself from Friga & Fro. If his voice is 100% he should do the solo thing and work on Tall Stories stuff.

In the early days of this debacle, it was alluded to by Andrew that he WAS asked, but he turned it down.

I believe Andrew's exact quote, after stating Augeri would NOT be back, was: "I never said he wasn't asked."

Wow..I had no clue. Thanks for the info. Too bad...my wife and I thought alot of SA with Journey and we loved his style/voice. Can't say I blame him though.

Augeri has a BRAIN. He would NOT touch this gig with a 10 foot pole....Plus, he'll get more of a crowd with who he tours with than Journey, Kansas and Blue Oyster Cult at the Rib and Wing Contests.....

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Soto All The Way wrote:Augeri has a BRAIN. He would NOT touch this gig with a 10 foot pole....Plus, he'll get more of a crowd with who he tours with than Journey, Kansas and Blue Oyster Cult at the Rib and Wing Contests.....

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Don't screw with Kansas on this board.

I saw them at a rib fest...One of the best shows I've seen yet. Downtown Indianapolis at night, with the high rises all around, people out on their balconies listening to the band. I can still still hear the echoes of "I sang this song a hundred, maybe a thousand years ago. No one ever listens...I just play and then I go...Off into the sunset like the western heroes do". Classic moment. Great performance by a great band. It may not be the big time but they still play and do it with passion.

Awesome, good for Augeri! I didn't know that he was asked back and told them no... I love it!
Burn your bridges and there is no going back...we have seen the end of Journey.

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MSPelata wrote:In the early days of this debacle, it was alluded to by Andrew that he WAS asked, but he turned it down.

I believe Andrew's exact quote, after stating Augeri would NOT be back, was: "I never said he wasn't asked."

I too, was totally unaware of this...where was it he stated this? wow...I don't blame Augeri one bit.

Adikeo wrote:

MSPelata wrote:In the early days of this debacle, it was alluded to by Andrew that he WAS asked, but he turned it down.

I believe Andrew's exact quote, after stating Augeri would NOT be back, was: "I never said he wasn't asked."

I too, was totally unaware of this...where was it he stated this? wow...I don't blame Augeri one bit.

On The Noticeboard...MR's other forum. I forget which thread...there are like 127 threads about Journey on there now.

Soto All The Way wrote:Augeri has a BRAIN. He would NOT touch this gig with a 10 foot pole....Plus, he'll get more of a crowd with who he tours with than Journey, Kansas and Blue Oyster Cult at the Rib and Wing Contests.....

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If this is true, Augieri gains alot of respect in my book. I'm sure he was emotionally exhausted through the entire ordeal that he went through. If this was handled better, Augieri would have been held on the sidelines, instead of officially being let go. Of course, none of us really know how all of this went down. We can speculate, but until we are in the same room with the band, or a part of the conversations, we won't really know.

No thank you.

No thank you. Jeff is the olny one I would pay to see except Perry.

Soto All The Way wrote:Augeri has a BRAIN. He would NOT touch this gig with a 10 foot pole....Plus, he'll get more of a crowd with who he tours with than Journey, Kansas and Blue Oyster Cult at the Rib and Wing Contests.....

This is a joke, right? A Tall Stories/ Augieri solo tour will not draw more fans than Journey with a new singer who sounds EXACTLY like Perry? And Journey, with 95 million records sold worldwide, will be forced to tour with Kansas and BOC, with combined worldwide sales of 15 million units? Please enlighten the rest of us as to what you're smoking and where we can get some.

Seriously, as offended as WE are by the JSS incident, this thing is NOT going to affect Journey's marketability in the long-term because 95% of the people out there will have NO IDEA this has happened and wouldn't give a crap anyway.

YoungJRNYfan wrote:Remember now, Augeri was singing close to 3 hour shows A NIGHT.

According to who's watch?
The 'Generations' tour may have featured 3 hour sets, but the first hour was dedicated to Pre-Perry songs.
Unless, of course, you're including Augeri's choral humming (along with the rest of the band) on the 'Peoples and Places' intro.
On some nights the first hour included AWYWIT or FTW, but they were tape, so that's a moot point
As for the remaining two hours, Augeri's worload was interspliced by 2 lead songs by Deen and turns at the mic by Neal, Jon, and Ross.
In short, your theory is bullshit.

Adikeo wrote:

MSPelata wrote:In the early days of this debacle, it was alluded to by Andrew that he WAS asked, but he turned it down.

I believe Andrew's exact quote, after stating Augeri would NOT be back, was: "I never said he wasn't asked."

I too, was totally unaware of this...where was it he stated this? wow...I don't blame Augeri one bit.

I believe Andrew's comment was in response to SP being asked back.
In regards to Augeri's possible return, I think Andrew had a hard "no" answer.

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ohsherrie wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It was bigger but it stretched the page width and I had to cut it back.

7 Wishes wrote:

Seriously, as offended as WE are by the JSS incident, this thing is NOT going to affect Journey's marketability in the long-term because 95% of the people out there will have NO IDEA this has happened and wouldn't give a crap anyway.

That's it in a nutshell, but I think there's never been a better time for Schon, Cain and Perry to reflect on this Journey vehicle. Regardless of it will or will not happen...there's only one solution...they must reform and throw all their egos out of the window......the door is wide open for the grand entrance of Perry....a defining moment in the final chapter of Journey. Okay! I know there's those that say he doesn't want the gig but how do we really know this....the recent Soprano thing might just have sparked a renewed enthusiasm that might just get the three of them talkin' business again, on Perry's terms. Schon and Cain are reportedly looking for a Perry clone so why the fuck don't they try a bit harder and get the real deal to sort this fuckin' mess out
If you think about it, this is the perfect solution to such a fucked up event.

Doesn't make up for what they did to Jeff but he'll come back stronger after this experience

7 Wishes wrote:

Soto All The Way wrote:Augeri has a BRAIN. He would NOT touch this gig with a 10 foot pole....Plus, he'll get more of a crowd with who he tours with than Journey, Kansas and Blue Oyster Cult at the Rib and Wing Contests.....

This is a joke, right? A Tall Stories/ Augieri solo tour will not draw more fans than Journey with a new singer who sounds EXACTLY like Perry? And Journey, with 95 million records sold worldwide, will be forced to tour with Kansas and BOC, with combined worldwide sales of 15 million units? Please enlighten the rest of us as to what you're smoking and where we can get some.

Seriously, as offended as WE are by the JSS incident, this thing is NOT going to affect Journey's marketability in the long-term because 95% of the people out there will have NO IDEA this has happened and wouldn't give a crap anyway.

No, not really, but sorta.....Do you think that JOURNEY NOW will be able to go out on the road and MARKET another tour with their 3rd singer in 3 years???? Not a chance.....They'll have to ride the Wing and Rib Contest venues for awhile and the numbers will NEVER be able to be figured out.....

As for SA, if he tours with maybe a decent band, maybe Jon Waite, Styx, Talisman? Someone like that? Who knows the numbers that would draw. I'm not going for the SA vs. Journey thing. But you do have to admit, the Journey name if not in the past has definately been FRACTURED, SHIT ON, FLUSHED and NOW DAY TO DAY MADE FUN OFF!!!!!
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Soto All The Way wrote:No, not really, but sorta.....Do you think that JOURNEY NOW will be able to go out on the road and MARKET another tour with their 3rd singer in 3 years????

Yep.
As I told Monker when Jeff was brought in, it won't matter one iota to the casual masses at large.
People come to hear the greatest hits.

As for SA, if he tours with maybe a decent band, maybe Jon Waite, Styx, Talisman? Someone like that? Who knows the numbers that would draw.
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Yeah, and Larry Gown could sell out Carnegie Hall.
What parallel earth do you live on?

The_Noble_Cause wrote:

Soto All The Way wrote:No, not really, but sorta.....Do you think that JOURNEY NOW will be able to go out on the road and MARKET another tour with their 3rd singer in 3 years????

Yep.
As I told Monker when Jeff was brought in, it won't matter one iota to the casual masses at large.
People come to hear the greatest hits.

As for SA, if he tours with maybe a decent band, maybe Jon Waite, Styx, Talisman? Someone like that? Who knows the numbers that would draw.
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Yeah, and Larry Gown could sell out Carnegie Hall.
What parallel earth do you live on?

Well, much of what you say here ends up being bullshit, false and ridiculous.....so I guess we'll see......Have a great day.

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YoungJRNYfan wrote:Remember now, Augeri was singing close to 3 hour shows A NIGHT.

According to who's watch?
The 'Generations' tour may have featured 3 hour sets, but the first hour was dedicated to Pre-Perry songs.
Unless, of course, you're including Augeri's choral humming (along with the rest of the band) on the 'Peoples and Places' intro.
On some nights the first hour included AWYWIT or FTW, but they were tape, so that's a moot point
As for the remaining two hours, Augeri's worload was interspliced by 2 lead songs by Deen and turns at the mic by Neal, Jon, and Ross.
In short, your theory is bullshit.

I'm just going by the setlists back in 2002 where most of my fam saw them. They saw Journey with Augeri a good 5 times, and all were 3 hour setlists, with Augeri singing the whole night, with an exception of a few songs. Atleast my theory isn't bullshit for those 5 nights I guess.

MSPelata wrote:In the early days of this debacle, it was alluded to by Andrew that he WAS asked, but he turned it down.

I believe Andrew's exact quote, after stating Augeri would NOT be back, was: "I never said he wasn't asked."

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I said that in regards to Steve PERRY.

I have made no comment about Steve Augeri, but I do know that he won't return.

Adikeo wrote:

MSPelata wrote:In the early days of this debacle, it was alluded to by Andrew that he WAS asked, but he turned it down.

I believe Andrew's exact quote, after stating Augeri would NOT be back, was: "I never said he wasn't asked."

I too, was totally unaware of this...where was it he stated this? wow...I don't blame Augeri one bit.

I was wrongly quoted here....PERRY folks....PERRY. The band are not returning to any old singer.

Soto All The Way wrote:Well, much of what you say here ends up being bullshit, false and ridiculous.....so I guess we'll see......Have a great day.

Since we’ve never bandied posts until now, you snake-tongued old harpy, I find that a little hard to believe.

What I am about to say will probably come as a shock, so u may first wish to remove any blunted, obtuse-angled objects before proceeding.
These include: dildos, vibrators, and any other forms of double-A-fueled, wiz-bang sexual gadgetry that rove around your floor like a contingent of vintage hand-cranked toy soldiers.
And bearing in mind you haven’t had a man since Martin Van Buren won in a landslide, I wouldn’t wager against your room looking like some sexually tricked-out variation of Mammoth Cave’s Stalagmite Hall.
Wouldn't want you to slip and fall now would we?

Listen- Jeff Scott Soto is in no ways responsible for any of Journey’s considerable successes.
If Perry’s exit didn’t destroy this band, no singer’s will.
No matter how disgracefully it may have been bungled.