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Rate Hugo

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:07 am
by Jeremey fan forever
How do you rate Hugo's vocals?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:57 am
by Aaron
Quit being a dick dude.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:38 am
by Calbear94
Hey Aaron,

What's your take on all this? Do you believe that they approached Chalfant for the May show, but that Chalfant declined because he wasn't ready? How could he not be ready after just recording a cover album of Journey hits?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:44 am
by ArnelRox
PLEASE let's not make this about Hugo or Kevin or anyone else. Those guys are who they are.

I don't believe it was stated as a question of Kevin not being ready, so much as not being available immediately. No doubt he's spent many years being ready. But guys like him have other commitments.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:56 am
by Calbear94
JourneyFuxSingers wrote:I don't believe it was stated as a question of Kevin not being ready, so much as not being available immediately. No doubt he's spent many years being ready. But guys like him have other commitments.


Which is fine, but do you think they would ask him to sing with them again? It's like lightening striking twice. If this indeed went down this way, I admire for Chalfant, in essence, telling Journey that it would have to be on his terms...playing hardball so to speak. Soto stepped in at moment's notice and performed admirably, but what did that get him? Certainly, not loyaltly. If Chalfant had sang for them in May, there'd be no guarantee that he'd be their new singer. He had already done a one-off for them in the past...he probably didn't want that to happen again.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:01 am
by 7 Wishes
Nice poll, asshole. Hugo is a fantastic songwriter and performer. I have known Jeremey for years and he's a fantastic individual; everyone who meets him has nothing but wonderful things to say about him. Do you know Hugo personally? I've met him twice and he's a standup, friendly guy who is playing the music he loves. Dumbasses like you are making this whole process much more difficult.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:03 am
by AR
I like Hugo's own material. Good stuff. He should be more than a Perry dress up. But I can't blame him - it is probably an easier way to make some money. I would go see him.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:11 am
by ArnelRox
Calbear94 wrote: Which is fine, but do you think they would ask him to sing with them again? It's like lightening striking twice. If this indeed went down this way, I admire for Chalfant, in essence, telling Journey that it would have to be on his terms...playing hardball so to speak. Soto stepped in at moment's notice and performed admirably, but what did that get him? Certainly, not loyaltly. If Chalfant had sang for them in May, there'd be no guarantee that he'd be their new singer. He had already done a one-off for them in the past...he probably didn't want that to happen again.


I can't speak for Kevin Chalfant, but I admire him as well. Anyone who sings for Journey needs to watch their back. At any moment on a whim of the FrigFro they could be dismissed w/out cause.

Kevin would be a wise man to wash his hands of Journey at this point.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:10 am
by Jeremey fan forever
7 Wishes wrote:Nice poll, asshole. Hugo is a fantastic songwriter and performer. I have known Jeremey for years and he's a fantastic individual; everyone who meets him has nothing but wonderful things to say about him. Do you know Hugo personally? I've met him twice and he's a standup, friendly guy who is playing the music he loves. Dumbasses like you are making this whole process much more difficult.


I didn't say Hugo isn't a "stand-up friendly guy" I said his vocals suck, which is just an opinion. You can claim that he is a fantastic songwriter and performer, but based solely on the performances and songs I've seen, I'll have to disagree until you or someone show me something good enough to make me think otherwise. His voice is nothing like Perry, and his song writing is no where near Journey caliber.

How my stating an opinion that you disagree with is making the "process more difficult" doesn't make sense at all. To what process are you referring? The delussional process of certain dweebs trying to get Hugo in as frontman for Journey? That's just rediculous pipedreams that are NEVER going to happen. Even if there were a chance of that happening, don't you think Journey is in bad enough shape as it is? Go push your karoake room singers on some other band, this one's already on life support.

PS. If you dont like my poll then quit jerking on it you 'tard. :roll:

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:20 am
by junky
AR wrote:I like Hugo's own material. Good stuff. He should be more than a Perry dress up. But I can't blame him - it is probably an easier way to make some money. I would go see him.


July 7th.

Dubrow says get your ass to NYC.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:31 am
by Just Mindy
JUNKY wrote:
AR wrote:I like Hugo's own material. Good stuff. He should be more than a Perry dress up. But I can't blame him - it is probably an easier way to make some money. I would go see him.


July 7th.

Dubrow says get your ass to NYC.


You guys definitely going, J?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:39 am
by junky
Just Mindy wrote:
JUNKY wrote:
AR wrote:I like Hugo's own material. Good stuff. He should be more than a Perry dress up. But I can't blame him - it is probably an easier way to make some money. I would go see him.


July 7th.

Dubrow says get your ass to NYC.


You guys definitely going, J?


If you go, we'll go.

We always plan on it, then bail cuz Hugo freaks me out, but if we have someone to hold our hands we might just take the plunge.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:44 am
by Just Mindy
JUNKY wrote:If you go, we'll go.

We always plan on it, then bail cuz Hugo freaks me out, but if we have someone to hold our hands we might just take the plunge.


I have Rush the next day, but being that the Canal Room is somewhat local, I may be able to swing it...I'll let you know for sure within a couple of days. You haven't seen him yet?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:47 am
by junky
Just Mindy wrote:
JUNKY wrote:If you go, we'll go.

We always plan on it, then bail cuz Hugo freaks me out, but if we have someone to hold our hands we might just take the plunge.


I have Rush the next day, but being that the Canal Room is somewhat local, I may be able to swing it...I'll let you know for sure within a couple of days. You haven't seen him yet?


No, still haven't seen him. Something better always seems to pop up.

Where is Rush playing?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:51 am
by Just Mindy
JUNKY wrote:No, still haven't seen him. Something better always seems to pop up.

Where is Rush playing?


Rush is at the PNC.

You need to experience Hugo at least once...I'm sure I could get there. As soon as I get the green light, we'll get the tix. :wink:

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:03 am
by DarwinNebraska
Chalfant is obviously a wise man.... seeing what they did to Soto... and him in the early 90s... he likely wants big guarantees of some sort to make this happen.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:05 am
by junky
Just Mindy wrote:
JUNKY wrote:No, still haven't seen him. Something better always seems to pop up.

Where is Rush playing?


Rush is at the PNC.

You need to experience Hugo at least once...I'm sure I could get there. As soon as I get the green light, we'll get the tix. :wink:


Your right about seeing Hugo just once.

I need to get the green light, too.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:51 am
by Aaron
You know, I really don't know. I have no inside connection with the band, I've just been a fan for too many years. I don't know if Kevin was approached for the may show or not but it wouldn't surprise me. Kevin has worked with the boys in the past before Perry came back to do TBF. Kevin was also in The Storm with Smitty, Gregg and Ross. Kevin has sang some Journey songs for years and I think would be a good asset to the band. He's a known quantity that has demonstrated excellent vocal and writing ability. Kevin, Jeremey or Hugo would all be good for this band in my opinion.

I don't know how much lead time Kevin was given for the May show or if he was even approached. I'd be surprised if he wasn't ready to do a show very quickly. Kevin is very familiar with the Journey catalog so I'm not sure why he'd be scared to go quickly. The only thing that would make sense is if he had not been singing for a while. I would expect a two week warm up period would be needed if he hasn't been singing. I'm not sure if we'll know more or not. Maybe Dean, Laura or one of the other folks would share some inside info if they have it. I guess Dean already did in his blog and he is credible source so I'd go with Dean's info at the moment.

Cheers,

Aaron

Calbear94 wrote:Hey Aaron,

What's your take on all this? Do you believe that they approached Chalfant for the May show, but that Chalfant declined because he wasn't ready? How could he not be ready after just recording a cover album of Journey hits?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:27 pm
by stevew2
Im sorry but Hugo sounds gay to me. He cant push the notes any further, his voice is thin and the vibrato isn't stong, actually nothing about his voice is strong. I hear and mostly just see a good imitation, but theres no soul its just weak and a bit whiney. Not a favorable choice. I know five guys that dont look like him but can sing as good.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:45 pm
by ArnelRox
He sometimes sounds good, but when he gets to a song like Mother Father, I'm lost:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeZxZA5FTmM

I'd still love to go see him. He acts so much like Perry. I'd really enjoy the show for what it is.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:30 am
by Jeremey fan forever
JourneyFuxSingers wrote:He sometimes sounds good, but when he gets to a song like Mother Father, I'm lost:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeZxZA5FTmM

I'd still love to go see him. He acts so much like Perry. I'd really enjoy the show for what it is.


I'd like to see an example where he does sound of good. He reminds me of Steve Perry trying to imitate the singer of Triumph. Nothing about Hugo is even remotely Perryish other than how he looks. I am baffled by fans of Perry who think Hugo is similar vocally.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:31 am
by Chrismo
AR wrote:I like Hugo's own material. Good stuff. He should be more than a Perry dress up. But I can't blame him - it is probably an easier way to make some money. I would go see him.


i'd almost rather go see evolution than journey right now...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:42 am
by brywool
AR wrote:I like Hugo's own material. Good stuff. He should be more than a Perry dress up. But I can't blame him - it is probably an easier way to make some money. I would go see him.


Ditto. His first 2 albums are really good. His third, I think he tried to be a bit too much like you know who in the writing department, but there's no doubt about who he sounds like and there are actually some great songs on the last one. His albums are the best Steve Perry solo albums never released ;)
I STILL wouldn't want to see him in Journey. I've seen him on video do the Steve Perry walk, movements, and gestures. To me, Perry looks good doing it. Hugo, I can't stand to watch him do that stuff and I think he should let his voice speak for itself. I think the imitation part of him is kind of embarrassing. Having said that, I like his own stuff and the Open Skyz record is also groovy.
The person that made the good immitation but no soul comment... yeah, I think I agree with that. I still like his voice, but that element is pretty far down and you'll have to listen real close to hear it.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:15 am
by lespaul7256
you know i can't help but sit back and see how people bash these tribute singers ,, it is not about them .... you don't see any of them bashing each other here ..... i understand that you will get a pissing comtest between two fansdsaying that my favorite singer is better then your , that is really just your own personal view ,,,, i am the bass player that plays with hugo in his tribute act, he is a great singer and great guy,any of our video's doesn't really show the full felling of our shows..... we are a live band and have fun doing it , there are other tribute singers doing this band and i think it is great that they support the journey they way we like to see them ,,, hugo does not come on here because of the singer bashing .and yes this board is pro jeremey ,still there is nothing wrong with that i wish him all of the best of luck as for any of the othe journey singers... journey is the #1 soap opera now lets see what happens and please back off all of these tribute singers they don't deserve it .. ... all i can say is good luck to journey in adding another chapter in there book ,,,,,,,

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:47 am
by Tyra-J
lespaul7256 wrote:... all i can say is good luck to journey in adding another chapter in there book ,,,,,,,

Unfortunately they want us to reread an old one, JSS was the new interesting chapter!
No good luck to Journey anymore... fuck them!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:09 am
by STORY_TELLER
Hate sucks and this poll is biased on its face.

I like Jeremy's vocals. I like Hugo's vocals. To me, Hugo creates the Journey/Perry solo material neither of the originating band/artist have done in years. Waiting to see what Jeremy can originate before I draw a conclusion on him as an artist. I, unlike others, am willing to give him a fair shot at being more than just a (talented) karaoke singer.

I can't wait for Hugo's next solo album. If you can't hear Perry influence in these vocals, melodies and song writing (link below), well, I don't know what to tell you. Art is subjective, but it's less so when you haven't already made up your mind before the fact (hint hint Jeremy fan). For me, Hugo is able to achieve the feathered subtleties in his original ballads similarly enough to Perry to give me chills. He hits that emotion in the melody and that's what was always unique about Journey's music to me.

What people fail to pay attention to is when Hugo performs in the tribute band, he's putting on a show for the audience with imitation in mind. It's no different than going to vegas to see an impersonator. That's the whole point of the show. I've seen plenty of clips of Jeremy performing wearing tails and doing perry like movements. He might have dropped doing that, but it's really a splitting hair difference. Hugo has gone out of his way to do facial expressions and wear his hair in a similar style which seems to creep people out, lol... But seriously, that can be dropped on a moments notice. A simple haircut and you'd stop seeing Perry and start seeing Hugo.

LesPaul, if you're still reading this thread, you guys should perform Hugo's original material in place of Journey's. He has some great original music and it deserves to be heard. Tell Hugo he has at least one fan here who's looking forward to his collaboration with Josh Ramos. (while you're at it, have him get Josh to coax Smitty into playing drums on a track or twelve. :D )

NOTE: all of the above was written with a smile on my face and without malice.

http://media.putfile.com/Hugo-Sampler

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:14 am
by ArnelRox
lespaul7256 wrote: hugo does not come on here because of the singer bashing


Now that's very sad.

journey is the #1 soap opera now lets see what happens and please back off all of these tribute singers they don't deserve it


So so so true. It's ok to talk about them, but do it w/respect. They have nothing to do w/this fiasco. Thanks for popping in w/that reminder.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:26 am
by larryfromnextdoor
lespaul7256 wrote:i am the bass player that plays with hugo in his tribute act, he is a great singer and great guy,,,,,,,,


wow man,, its great to finally meet you , you and your band have some amazing chops!! hugo and the band has some fans here!, some are less spoken and a bit underground like myself,, WELCOME to you .. pass it on to HUGO as well ,, i hope you come in once in a while and give us the heads up on whats happening with the band!! keep them youtube clips coming.. :wink:
larry-texas

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:13 am
by brandonx76
lespaul7256 wrote:you know i can't help but sit back and see how people bash these tribute singers ,, it is not about them .... you don't see any of them bashing each other here ..... i understand that you will get a pissing comtest between two fansdsaying that my favorite singer is better then your , that is really just your own personal view ,,,, i am the bass player that plays with hugo in his tribute act, he is a great singer and great guy,any of our video's doesn't really show the full felling of our shows..... we are a live band and have fun doing it , there are other tribute singers doing this band and i think it is great that they support the journey they way we like to see them ,,, hugo does not come on here because of the singer bashing .and yes this board is pro jeremey ,still there is nothing wrong with that i wish him all of the best of luck as for any of the othe journey singers... journey is the #1 soap opera now lets see what happens and please back off all of these tribute singers they don't deserve it .. ... all i can say is good luck to journey in adding another chapter in there book ,,,,,,,


Not only does Hugo sound excellent, the band is great! Very surprised. If Jeremey's on the plate for joining Journey, so too should Hugo. Just needs to lose the 'leapord' shirt...haha, that's too much!!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:18 am
by Jeremey fan forever
lespaul7256 wrote:you know i can't help but sit back and see how people bash these tribute singers ,, it is not about them .... you don't see any of them bashing each other here ..... i understand that you will get a pissing comtest between two fansdsaying that my favorite singer is better then your , that is really just your own personal view ,,,, i am the bass player that plays with hugo in his tribute act, he is a great singer and great guy,any of our video's doesn't really show the full felling of our shows..... we are a live band and have fun doing it , there are other tribute singers doing this band and i think it is great that they support the journey they way we like to see them ,,, hugo does not come on here because of the singer bashing .and yes this board is pro jeremey ,still there is nothing wrong with that i wish him all of the best of luck as for any of the othe journey singers... journey is the #1 soap opera now lets see what happens and please back off all of these tribute singers they don't deserve it .. ... all i can say is good luck to journey in adding another chapter in there book ,,,,,,,


Dude, I don't think its bashing for someone to say "I don't like so and so singer and here's why" its all understood as opinion and comentary. Also, while I think YOU kick ass on the bass, and that your tribute bands sounds pretty damn good, I absolutely agree with you about your bands singer, because he can't bring it vocally and does not sound even remotely close to the guy he is trying to imitate. Its like an Elvis impersonator who does everything right but sounds like...Michael Jackson.

Then you get people saying he ought to be in Journey, and that gets scary because Journey has been known form time to time to be stupid enough to listen them. Hugo would be a disaster for Journey, but if he's working out well out your gigs, then great!