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I actually posted the following in another thread, but I am honestly curious about the difference between the two. Someone please make this make sense to me.

"since I dont know much about Hugo, maybe you can explain the difference between him and Jeremy. I've seen them both on youtube, they both sound pretty good, but Hugo looks the part and if they are wanting the nostalgia back, then Hugo would be the better choice, right? Like I said all of you know MUCH more about Jeremy and Hugo than me, so I'de like some input as to why Jeremy and not Hugo."

Hugo was a good Journey impressionist a while back. However, over the years he ahas lost some range and has vitually no power left in his voice, as it pertains to the Journey catalog. He voice is now thin when he sings anything Journey. His original stuff is great. The man is a good artist.

Jeremey, having seen him live, is the real deal. He shares a lot of natural range with Perry and the songs come out unforced, the polar opposite of Hugo. On some songs, Jeremey has range to spare. Having heard a few of Jeremey's originals, he too is a great artist. Out of the two, Jeremey is the clear choice for me.

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but to my ears Jeremey's voice is is more full and has more depth than Hugo's. I have a couple of Hugo's original cd's and I really like them, but I just don't care for him singing Journey songs. His voice seems too thin and not powerful enough. When I hear Hugo, I enjoy the sound, but I don't feel the song. When I hear Jeremey sing, I don't just hear the song, his voice and delivery makes me feel the song.

Not very technical but that is the best way I can describe it from my view.

Deb

LucyFurr wrote:I actually posted the following in another thread, but I am honestly curious about the difference between the two. Someone please make this make sense to me.

"since I dont know much about Hugo, maybe you can explain the difference between him and Jeremy. I've seen them both on youtube, they both sound pretty good, but Hugo looks the part and if they are wanting the nostalgia back, then Hugo would be the better choice, right? Like I said all of you know MUCH more about Jeremy and Hugo than me, so I'de like some input as to why Jeremy and not Hugo."

Next time you are comparing them on Youtube, make sure the volume is on. The difference will be clear

Thats what my impression was: Hugo looked good, hit the notes, but it wasn't "full". Jeremy was "full" but I dont like his look. I dont know. I will do a little more research on Jeremy and Hugo both and give each a fair shot.

I know Jeremy is here, and no disrespect to him, but If I'm to be a fan, I have to be moved by the voice.

Thank you for your imput

LucyFurr wrote:Thats what my impression was: Hugo looked good, hit the notes, but it wasn't "full". Jeremy was "full" but I dont like his look. I dont know. I will do a little more research on Jeremy and Hugo both and give each a fair shot.

I know Jeremy is here, and no disrespect to him, but If I'm to be a fan, I have to be moved by the voice.

Thank you for your imput

If you want to feel the "Journey Experience" from the 80's, then your only choice is to go see EVOLUTION and Hugo. You can talk all you want about full voice, thin voice it is all bullshit, you have to experience a live show from both bands, then make your decision. As for me, Evolution is Journey, the musicians in that band plus Hugo, make for an amazing show.
As for the New Journey, they are finished, unless SP goes back and writes new music, they are just another tribute band.

Well, after hearing all that's been said about Jeremey. I have to say that if I were a singer I'd rather make it with songs I penned - rather than make a name for myself singing other people's songs. If Jeremey has original stuff, and is a true singer on songs other than Journey's - than he should go that route.

Honestly, at this point, I don't care who they pick - because I'm done. Been done since 2001. But I think giving up and joining a band where you'll be signing 99% of someone else's songs, is sort of a cop out.

Socratic Methodist wrote:Well, after hearing all that's been said about Jeremey. I have to say that if I were a singer I'd rather make it with songs I penned - rather than make a name for myself singing other people's songs. If Jeremey has original stuff, and is a true singer on songs other than Journey's - than he should go that route.

Honestly, at this point, I don't care who they pick - because I'm done. Been done since 2001. But I think giving up and joining a band where you'll be signing 99% of someone else's songs, is sort of a cop out.

Did you think Sammy copped out going to Van Halen? They did record a record (record a record lol) right away, but he had to sing the back catalog. I don't think it's a cop out at all. If Jeremey enjoys singing Journey songs, and evidently he does, and his dream would be to front Journey, if given the chance and he passed on it, that would be a tragedy.

I don't think Hugo's voice would hold up to Journey's catalog. Jeremey seems like the logical choice...looks wise? Who cares?

I would rather the singer look like someone other than Perry, themselves maybe??

gatorzone04 wrote:If you want to feel the "Journey Experience" from the 80's, then your only choice is to go see EVOLUTION and Hugo. You can talk all you want about full voice, thin voice it is all bullshit, you have to experience a live show from both bands, then make your decision. As for me, Evolution is Journey, the musicians in that band plus Hugo, make for an amazing show.
As for the New Journey, they are finished, unless SP goes back and writes new music, they are just another tribute band.

Just like boots prove that Augeri's live vocals haven't always been that stellar, they also prove that Hugo's voice is thinner than Jeremey's. Evolution may indeed put on a great live show but you can't usually truly hear just how well the singer is hitting/not hitting the notes in a live setting just because of all the noise at any particular venue, especially if you are closer to the stage. That's where the boots come in and tell the rest of the story.

Perrylover wrote:Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but to my ears Jeremey's voice is is more full and has more depth than Hugo's. I have a couple of Hugo's original cd's and I really like them, but I just don't care for him singing Journey songs. His voice seems too thin and not powerful enough. When I hear Hugo, I enjoy the sound, but I don't feel the song. When I hear Jeremey sing, I don't just hear the song, his voice and delivery makes me feel the song.

Not very technical but that is the best way I can describe it from my view.

Deb

That's the best explanation of the difference that I've read in this thread.

ohsherrie wrote:

Perrylover wrote:Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but to my ears Jeremey's voice is is more full and has more depth than Hugo's. I have a couple of Hugo's original cd's and I really like them, but I just don't care for him singing Journey songs. His voice seems too thin and not powerful enough. When I hear Hugo, I enjoy the sound, but I don't feel the song. When I hear Jeremey sing, I don't just hear the song, his voice and delivery makes me feel the song.

Not very technical but that is the best way I can describe it from my view.

Deb

That's the best explanation of the difference that I've read in this thread.

I'll second that. Very well put.

conversationpc wrote:

ohsherrie wrote:

Perrylover wrote:Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but to my ears Jeremey's voice is is more full and has more depth than Hugo's. I have a couple of Hugo's original cd's and I really like them, but I just don't care for him singing Journey songs. His voice seems too thin and not powerful enough. When I hear Hugo, I enjoy the sound, but I don't feel the song. When I hear Jeremey sing, I don't just hear the song, his voice and delivery makes me feel the song.

Not very technical but that is the best way I can describe it from my view.

Deb

That's the best explanation of the difference that I've read in this thread.

I'll second that. Very well put.

Well if you and I agree we must be right.

The first time I saw a clip of Hugo doing Journey, I thought he sounded good, but just good. I couldn't get past the impersonation part either. Then I heard him singing with Valentine and thought damn, this dude is good. I like Hugo singing Valentine, but not Journey. I like Jeremey singing Journey better than anyone except SP or JSS. He's got that resonance and emotion that are required to perform Journey songs properly.

Rick wrote:The first time I saw a clip of Hugo doing Journey, I thought he sounded good, but just good. I couldn't get past the impersonation part either. Then I heard him singing with Valentine and thought damn, this dude is good. I like Hugo singing Valentine, but not Journey. I like Jeremey singing Journey better than anyone except SP or JSS. He's got that resonance and emotion that are required to perform Journey songs properly.

I couldn't agree more Rick. I own Hugo's 2 solo cd's, as well as the Open Skyz cd, and He sounds great! I don't think his vocals are strong enough for the Journey stuff. I've heard all of the live stuff on Youtube, and like many of you have stated here, his vocals are just too thin. He is an extremely talented singer and songwriter though. To me, his 2nd solo cd was his best. "Time on earth". For those of you who haven't heard it, if you're a Journey fan, go buy it!!!

I know that this is a Jeremey love-fest forum, but Hugo sounds much more like Steve Perry than Jeremey does.

Jeremey's voice IS more powerful, but Hugo's is certainly strong enough to do more than justice to the Journey catalog, and Hugo both looks and sounds the part - live and on studio recordings.

Jeremey, on the demos he cut, is remarkably Perry-like. On his youtube videos, when he reaches for high notes, Jeremey does NOT sound like Perry very much at all.

I'd pick Hugo for Journey over Jeremey in a New York minute.

Since Cain evidently doesn't agree, I'll let my money do the talking and skip upcoming Journey tours.

Marc Brunengraber wrote:I know that this is a Jeremey love-fest forum, but Hugo sounds much more like Steve Perry than Jeremey does.

Jeremey's voice IS more powerful, but Hugo's is certainly strong enough to do more than justice to the Journey catalog, and Hugo both looks and sounds the part - live and on studio recordings.

Jeremey, on the demos he cut, is remarkably Perry-like. On his youtube videos, when he reaches for high notes, Jeremey does NOT sound like Perry very much at all.

I'd pick Hugo for Journey over Jeremey in a New York minute.

Since Cain evidently doesn't agree, I'll let my money do the talking and skip upcoming Journey tours.

Dude, you should give it a listen don't you think? Yeah, this is definitely a Jeremey love-fest. Everyone here loves the guy. A lot of folks here have seen him live and I've never, ever heard one bad word about his performances. Ever. The Youtube clips speak for themselves. If you think Hugo sings better, that's your opinion. It's wrong, but it's still a valid opinion.

Cheers bro.

gatorzone04 wrote:

LucyFurr wrote:Thats what my impression was: Hugo looked good, hit the notes, but it wasn't "full". Jeremy was "full" but I dont like his look. I dont know. I will do a little more research on Jeremy and Hugo both and give each a fair shot.

I know Jeremy is here, and no disrespect to him, but If I'm to be a fan, I have to be moved by the voice.

Thank you for your imput

If you want to feel the "Journey Experience" from the 80's, then your only choice is to go see EVOLUTION and Hugo. You can talk all you want about full voice, thin voice it is all bullshit, you have to experience a live show from both bands, then make your decision. As for me, Evolution is Journey, the musicians in that band plus Hugo, make for an amazing show.
As for the New Journey, they are finished, unless SP goes back and writes new music, they are just another tribute band.

Journey will really be finished if they listened to you! Clean out the ear wax! I think his looks hypnotize you and in your mind you hear Perry. I dont know what can explain such rediculous statements about Hugo, but the dude--and he may be a hell of a nice guy i dont know--can not sing Perry worth a fuck, and ranks very close to the bottom of the pack when it comes to Perry imitators or tributers.

I have no reason to be mean to Hugo, and no motivation in saying so, except that he is just awful. I feel offended when someone like that is compared vocally to Perry.

Marc Brunengraber wrote:I know that this is a Jeremey love-fest forum, but Hugo sounds much more like Steve Perry than Jeremey does.

Jeremey's voice IS more powerful, but Hugo's is certainly strong enough to do more than justice to the Journey catalog, and Hugo both looks and sounds the part - live and on studio recordings.

Jeremey, on the demos he cut, is remarkably Perry-like. On his youtube videos, when he reaches for high notes, Jeremey does NOT sound like Perry very much at all.

I'd pick Hugo for Journey over Jeremey in a New York minute.

Since Cain evidently doesn't agree, I'll let my money do the talking and skip upcoming Journey tours.

Keep one thing in my mind dude. Jeremey has been a 9 to 5'er for many years. He's only recently quit smoking and drinking. Think about how much better he can become dedicating ALL of his time to his craft if he gets the gig. With a vocal coach and 8 more hours a day dedicated to being a professional singer, I suspect he'll be even better than now. And that would be fuckin' awesome because he's fantastic now.

I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse. I think both guys are great singers and could easily cover the Journey legacy well. Hugo would have to become his own man and shun the Perry impersonator crap that is part of the Evolution show.

When I look at Hugo's own work, that is where I would give him the nod. Hugo's discography is very strong with 5 CD's of his own. I personally think that Hugo's work flogs anything Journey has done since 83. The Valentine CD is the best record that I own today. If you like Escape, you should have a listen. If you like harder rock music (as Schon always talks but doesn't deliver), you should definitely have a list (Adam Holland rocks!).

In the end, both guys rock. It sounds like Jeremey is the lead guy, I wish him the best. In either event, I won't leave a Journey concert pissed off.

Aaron wrote:I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse.

Actually its called falsetto, not finesse. Hugo sucks

Compare this (Hugo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE6oY8k-zNo with this (Jeremey) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlVA1Ke18Lo and decide for yourself. I think it's a coin toss myself, and the visual goes to Hugo. Jeremey obviously has a fuller voice and better range, but it doesn't have a Perry tone to it.

That said, I don't think either one of them hold a candle to Steve Perry. It's like trying to find a replacement for Mick Jagger or Steven Tyler - it can't be done.

Saint John wrote:

Marc Brunengraber wrote:I know that this is a Jeremey love-fest forum, but Hugo sounds much more like Steve Perry than Jeremey does.

Jeremey's voice IS more powerful, but Hugo's is certainly strong enough to do more than justice to the Journey catalog, and Hugo both looks and sounds the part - live and on studio recordings.

Jeremey, on the demos he cut, is remarkably Perry-like. On his youtube videos, when he reaches for high notes, Jeremey does NOT sound like Perry very much at all.

I'd pick Hugo for Journey over Jeremey in a New York minute.

Since Cain evidently doesn't agree, I'll let my money do the talking and skip upcoming Journey tours.

Keep one thing in my mind dude. Jeremey has been a 9 to 5'er for many years. He's only recently quit smoking and drinking. Think about how much better he can become dedicating ALL of his time to his craft if he gets the gig. With a vocal coach and 8 more hours a day dedicated to being a professional singer, I suspect he'll be even better than now. And that would be fuckin' awesome because he's fantastic now.

I agree,he could sing for Journey next week,he has the pipes and the power in his voice

stevew2 wrote:

Saint John wrote:

Marc Brunengraber wrote:I know that this is a Jeremey love-fest forum, but Hugo sounds much more like Steve Perry than Jeremey does.

Jeremey's voice IS more powerful, but Hugo's is certainly strong enough to do more than justice to the Journey catalog, and Hugo both looks and sounds the part - live and on studio recordings.

Jeremey, on the demos he cut, is remarkably Perry-like. On his youtube videos, when he reaches for high notes, Jeremey does NOT sound like Perry very much at all.

I'd pick Hugo for Journey over Jeremey in a New York minute.

Since Cain evidently doesn't agree, I'll let my money do the talking and skip upcoming Journey tours.

Keep one thing in my mind dude. Jeremey has been a 9 to 5'er for many years. He's only recently quit smoking and drinking. Think about how much better he can become dedicating ALL of his time to his craft if he gets the gig. With a vocal coach and 8 more hours a day dedicated to being a professional singer, I suspect he'll be even better than now. And that would be fuckin' awesome because he's fantastic now.

I agree,he could sing for Journey next week,he has the pipes and the power in his voice

And, he knows the whole catalog inside and out. He's the correct choice.

I guess we will see.If they dont choose him, they will be even more stupid.

stevew2 wrote:I guess we will see.If they dont choose him, they will be even more stupid.

Well, they punted Jeff out, can't get much stupider than that in my opinion. Maybe Jeremey can talk some sense into them. Do you think they're getting senile? Alzheimers? If it was Azoff, then the band just needs to grow a pair. Just stand the hell up and say no. Baffling.

Jeremey fan forever wrote:

Aaron wrote:I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse.

Actually its called falsetto, not finesse. Hugo sucks

You are the biggest ass I have seen on this board!!!!!!

gatorzone04 wrote:

Jeremey fan forever wrote:

Aaron wrote:I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse.

Actually its called falsetto, not finesse. Hugo sucks

You are the biggest ass I have seen on this board!!!!!!

While your admiring other people's asses, yours hasn't exactly been keeping that low of a profile.

gatorzone04 wrote:

Jeremey fan forever wrote:

Aaron wrote:I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse.

Actually its called falsetto, not finesse. Hugo sucks

You are the biggest ass I have seen on this board!!!!!!

Obviously we have not met.

conversationpc wrote:

gatorzone04 wrote:

Jeremey fan forever wrote:

Aaron wrote:I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse.

Actually its called falsetto, not finesse. Hugo sucks

You are the biggest ass I have seen on this board!!!!!!

While your admiring other people's asses, yours hasn't exactly been keeping that low of a profile.

Why should I be!!!!