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I've seen a few video clips on YouTube and was curious if there is a DVD of this tour?

PMA wrote:I've seen a few video clips on YouTube and was curious if there is a DVD of this tour?

Not an official one, no.

Nothing that I know of other than the ROR Documentary. We were hoping Steve would do one of the Mt Aire concert after he did the Houston '81.

Didn't someone ask him... I believe it was in the q and a, and the way he answered, it was like, never going to happen? At least that's how I read it anyway.

Would be nice though. I know it sounds terrible to say, knowing the pain the man was in, but that era is my favorite Stevie.

ohsherrie wrote:Nothing that I know of other than the ROR Documentary. We were hoping Steve would do one of the Mt Aire concert after he did the Houston '81.

Distant Voice said it might happen though...

scarygirl wrote:Didn't someone ask him... I believe it was in the q and a, and the way he answered, it was like, never going to happen? At least that's how I read it anyway.

Would be nice though. I know it sounds terrible to say, knowing the pain the man was in, but that era is my favorite Stevie.

ohsherrie wrote:Nothing that I know of other than the ROR Documentary. We were hoping Steve would do one of the Mt Aire concert after he did the Houston '81.

I wish there was. I would love to have it.

Sassie wrote:I wish there was. I would love to have it.

ya know,, i love ROR the album,, but we already have the best live versions of those tunes elsewhere,, plus the 2 live videos of Girlcant , and Ill be alright...plus there is that live version of Only the Young on youtube, so we are almost there,,, besides the Randy and Mike solos.....

Randy had a solo? Why God; why?

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

Sassie wrote:I wish there was. I would love to have it.

ya know,, i love ROR the album,, but we already have the best live versions of those tunes elsewhere,, plus the 2 live videos of Girlcant , and Ill be alright...plus there is that live version of Only the Young on youtube, so we are almost there,,, besides the Randy and Mike solos.....

sure , its in the Philadelfia sound board,,, i think it was right before whos crying...

scarygirl wrote:Randy had a solo? Why God; why?

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

Sassie wrote:I wish there was. I would love to have it.

ya know,, i love ROR the album,, but we already have the best live versions of those tunes elsewhere,, plus the 2 live videos of Girlcant , and Ill be alright...plus there is that live version of Only the Young on youtube, so we are almost there,,, besides the Randy and Mike solos.....

How I would love a ROR DVD nicely polished in 5.1 surround,an entire Mountain Aire show or the Fresno one!...I don't think it's going to happen,tho..


Larry...LOL! "Philadelfia"?Are you sure it's not "Filadelfia"?

scarygirl wrote:Randy had a solo? Why God; why?

Because he is that good of a bassist. Blows Valory away.

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

Sassie wrote:I wish there was. I would love to have it.

ya know,, i love ROR the album,, but we already have the best live versions of those tunes elsewhere,, plus the 2 live videos of Girlcant , and Ill be alright...plus there is that live version of Only the Young on youtube, so we are almost there,,, besides the Randy and Mike solos.....

Well, i wish there was a DVD - i liked the band on that tour - the songs, the stage show - everything. ROR may just be my fave Journey album.......

scarygirl wrote:Didn't someone ask him... I believe it was in the q and a, and the way he answered, it was like, never going to happen? At least that's how I read it anyway.

Yeah, I asked that. He didn't say 'never gonna happen'.
All he said was there were no plans that he knew of.

It may happen if sony every decides they it, I guess... they were the ones that set the Houston project in motion, not him. If they ever decide to haul it out, great. Thus far there are no plans, which is kind of surprising. The last one went gold within 8 months of release. Probably platinum by now but RIAA isn't updated. And the GH dvd did really well too.

RockinDeano wrote:

scarygirl wrote:Randy had a solo? Why God; why?

Because he is that good of a bassist. Blows Valory away.

Agreed. Despite his choice in attire back then, Randy was the shit.
I just wish he would stop trying to talk like a thug and go back to sounding the way he did in that documentary - like a normal human being who spoke correctly and could string 3 sentences together without calling someone "dawg". Other than that, HELL of a musician.

*Laura wrote:Larry...LOL! "Philadelfia"?Are you sure it's not "Filadelfia"?

oh no! im not much of a speller or space bar guy, but that was bad! ..note to self, google the big words..

bluejeangirl76 wrote:I just wish he would stop trying to talk like a thug and go back to sounding the way he did in that documentary - like a normal human being who spoke correctly and could string 3 sentences together without calling someone "dawg". Other than that, HELL of a musician.

I noticed that too. Funny how yo-bonics can reduce a person's IQ.

Please god not an ROR dvd ! I want one with Greg Fucking Rollie ! He was a much better player than cain. More soulful and a better choice of sounds for the tunes. People and places anyone ? I fucking hate cain ! IF it wasnt for Steve Perry that fucker would have wound up a manager at a music store by now. Listen to any thing he has done on his own. Dogshit !

The ROR tour sucked balls. Every song too fast. The feel, mechanical with smitty missing. Fuck that. A dvd from Departure would make my pelvis thrust involentarily for days. IMHO there is plenty of material out there from the cain days and very little from 77-80 on video. See, I dislike cain so much I didnt even capitalize his fucking name. He is a nerdy fucking newt.

Liquid_Drummer wrote: I fucking hate cain ! IF it wasnt for Steve Perry that fucker would have wound up a manager at a music store by now. Listen to any thing he has done on his own. Dogshit !

Hahaha, post of the day.

I fuckin hate Cain...classic.

RockinDeano wrote:

Liquid_Drummer wrote: I fucking hate cain ! IF it wasnt for Steve Perry that fucker would have wound up a manager at a music store by now. Listen to any thing he has done on his own. Dogshit !

Hahaha, post of the day.

I fuckin hate Cain...classic.

There are hundreds of posts like this at the moment, Deano. And they're all bullshit.

Matthew wrote:

RockinDeano wrote:

Liquid_Drummer wrote: I fucking hate cain ! IF it wasnt for Steve Perry that fucker would have wound up a manager at a music store by now. Listen to any thing he has done on his own. Dogshit !

Hahaha, post of the day.

I fuckin hate Cain...classic.

There are hundreds of posts like this at the moment, Deano. And they're all bullshit.

You're the only sappy dickhole who would vote a thumbs up for that major prick Jon Cain. He can go drown in the Pacific for all I care..a waste of oxygen. Boy did Herbie get it right when he said Cain "was a motherfucker and would stab you in the back as soon as he could."

Some really swell guy, actually a sweethart by reputation, promised me a copy from a ROR concert if it is not released by 4-1-08. I can hardly wait.

Liquid_Drummer wrote:! I want one with Greg Fucking Rollie ! He was a much better player than cain. More soulful and a better choice of sounds for the tunes.

What do you mean by this, LD? I can't think of a single Journey track where the keyboard sounds are misjudged with the exception of those synthetic pan pipes on Colors of the Spirit.

Rolie's keyboard sounds from the 70s were great for the time - but they wouldn't have served the band well in the 80s. He would have had to go for a more synthetic or slick sound in much the same way Cain did. In fact, I bet Rolie's solo albums in the 80s feature exactly the same sounds you are criticising for lacking soul, etc.

In your view which songs did Cain get it wrong?

And where's the evidence for Rolie being a better player? This isn't remotely obvious from the Journey studio albums.

Are you talking about live shows? I haven't heard Rolie's solo on the Departure tour so maybe I need to give that a listen. But surely no self-respecting Journey fan can deny Cain's awesome solo on the ROR tour?

Whatever you think of the guy's personality Jonathan Cain always delivered for Journery in a big way until he lost the plot in 1998.

RockinDeano wrote:

Matthew wrote:

RockinDeano wrote:

Liquid_Drummer wrote: I fucking hate cain ! IF it wasnt for Steve Perry that fucker would have wound up a manager at a music store by now. Listen to any thing he has done on his own. Dogshit !

Hahaha, post of the day.

I fuckin hate Cain...classic.

There are hundreds of posts like this at the moment, Deano. And they're all bullshit.

You're the only sappy dickhole who would vote a thumbs up for that major prick Jon Cain. He can go drown in the Pacific for all I care..a waste of oxygen. Boy did Herbie get it right when he said Cain "was a motherfucker and would stab you in the back as soon as he could."

So he didn't get on with JSS? Does that negate his incredible contribution to this band over a quarter of a century?

If anyone needs to feel the heat about JSS at the moment it's Neal Schon....and you know it.

Matthew,


You right about cain delivering for Journey in the 80's. I can not dispute that. I think I would have liked the direction they might have went in with Rollie a little better because I feel Rollie was more soulful. Abraxas anyone? IMHO that album has Rollie playing shit that cain could only dream of playing. Cain could play the notes but not the feel. That is my opinion based on what I hear in Cain's style. And I think he is a homo.

Liquid_Drummer wrote:Matthew,


You right about cain delivering for Journey in the 80's. I can not dispute that. I think I would have liked the direction they might have went in with Rollie a little better because I feel Rollie was more soulful. Abraxas anyone? IMHO that album has Rollie playing shit that cain could only dream of playing. Cain could play the notes but not the feel. That is my opinion based on what I hear in Cain's style. And I think he is a homo.

LD,

Surely the opening piano chords of Don't Stop Believin' are more memorable, more classic than than any of Rolie's jazzy, Latino noodlings?

Cain deserves a place in the Hall of Fame for that song alone...

Matthew wrote:Surely the opening piano chords of Don't Stop Believin' are more memorable, more classic than than any of Rolie's jazzy, Latino noodlings?

I prefer Rolie's opening on "Feeling That Way" any day

RaiderFan wrote:

Matthew wrote:Surely the opening piano chords of Don't Stop Believin' are more memorable, more classic than than any of Rolie's jazzy, Latino noodlings?

I prefer Rolie's opening on "Feeling That Way" any day

You know...the opening to that song is so unmemorable I'm actually going to have to dig it out and remind myself how it goes....

Liquid_Drummer wrote:Please god not an ROR dvd ! I want one with Greg Fucking Rollie ! He was a much better player than cain. More soulful and a better choice of sounds for the tunes. People and places anyone ? I fucking hate cain ! IF it wasnt for Steve Perry that fucker would have wound up a manager at a music store by now. Listen to any thing he has done on his own. Dogshit !

The ROR tour sucked balls. Every song too fast. The feel, mechanical with smitty missing. Fuck that. A dvd from Departure would make my pelvis thrust involentarily for days. IMHO there is plenty of material out there from the cain days and very little from 77-80 on video. See, I dislike cain so much I didnt even capitalize his fucking name. He is a nerdy fucking newt.

Love it! People & Places YESSSS. U are so ON about Friga.

Liquid_Drummer wrote: Cain could play the notes but not the feel. That is my opinion based on what I hear in Cain's style. And I think he is a homo.

LD ur on fire! Keep it coming. LMAO

RockinDeano wrote:

scarygirl wrote:Randy had a solo? Why God; why?

Because he is that good of a bassist. Blows Valory away.

YUP. Randy's a great bassist. Ross is adequate. Too bad he had to do his solo with Baird. THAT guy was a mistake from the word go.
I heard someone say that they passed up Sting's drummer for Baird. Perry's a drummer for God's sake, how could he do that!!??

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

RockinDeano wrote:

scarygirl wrote:Randy had a solo? Why God; why?

Because he is that good of a bassist. Blows Valory away.

Agreed. Despite his choice in attire back then, Randy was the shit.
I just wish he would stop trying to talk like a thug and go back to sounding the way he did in that documentary - like a normal human being who spoke correctly and could string 3 sentences together without calling someone "dawg". Other than that, HELL of a musician.

YUP!

Liquid_Drummer wrote:Matthew,


Cain could play the notes but not the feel. That is my opinion based on what I hear in Cain's style. And I think he is a homo.

LD- this is like the funniest thing you've ever said here. I don't know why but I totally laughed out loud when I read this.