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O.T. HA, HA, Vick Nabbed By The Feds!!!!!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:23 am
by Soto All The Way
What a fucking peice of trash...I'll take TO anyday over the "Fine outstanding GA. citizen..." as once described......

e- :shock:


Vick indictment


The indictment alleges that Vick and his co-defendants began sponsoring dogfighting in early 2001, the former Virginia Tech star's rookie year with the Falcons.

The Falcons quarterback was indicted for conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District in Richmond, Va. Three others -- Purnell Peace, Quanis Phillips and Tony Taylor -- also were indicted by the grand jury on the same charges.

The indictment states: "If convicted on the Travel Act portion of the conspiracy charge, each defendant faces a statutory maximum of five years in prison, a $250,000 fine, and full restitution. If convicted on the animal fighting venture portion of the conspiracy charge, each defendant faces one year in prison, a $100,000 fine, or both. The indictment also includes a forfeiture allegation seeking recovery of any property constituting, or derived from, proceeds obtained directly or indirectly as a result of these offenses. "

According to court documents filed by federal authorities earlier this month, dog fights have been sponsored by "Bad Newz Kennels" at the property since at least 2002. For the events, participants and dogs traveled from South Carolina, North Carolina, Maryland, New York, Texas and other states.

Members of the venture also knowingly transported, delivered and received dogs for animal fighting, the documents state.



Fifty-four pit bulls were recovered from the property during searches in April, along with a "rape stand," used to hold dogs in place for mating; an electric treadmill modified for dogs; and a bloodied piece of carpeting, the documents said.





The property was used as the "main staging area for housing and training the pit bulls involved in the dog fighting venture," according to the filings.


AP Photo/Steve Helber

State and federal officials load coolers of evidence into a truck as they search the grounds behind a home owned by Michael Vick in Smithfield, Va., on July 6.



The documents said the fights usually occurred late at night or in the early morning and would last several hours. The winning dog would win from "hundreds up to thousands of dollars," and participants and spectators also would place bets on the fight.


Before fights, the participating dogs of the same sex would be weighed and bathed, according to the filings. Opposing dogs would be washed to remove any poison or narcotic placed on the dog's coat that could affect the other dog's performance. Sometimes participants would not feed a dog before the fight to "make it more hungry for the other dog," the documents said.



Fights would end when one dog died or with the surrender of the losing dog, which was sometimes put to death by drowning, strangulation, hanging, gun shot, electrocution or some other method, according to the documents. The property has an above-ground swimming pool, and investigators were seen looking into the pool Friday.




During a June search of the property, investigators uncovered the graves of seven pit bulls that were killed by members of "Bad Newz Kennels" following sessions to test whether dogs would be good fighters, the documents said.




Members of "Bad Newz Kennels" also sponsored and exhibited fights in other parts of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Maryland, New Jersey and other states, the filings said.

On June 7, federal law enforcement officials descended on the property with a search warrant. More than a dozen vehicles went to the home early that day and investigators searched inside before turning their attention to the area where officials found dozens of dogs in late April and evidence that suggested the home was involved in a dogfighting operation.


Surry County officials had secured a search warrant in late May based on an informant's information to look for as many as 30 dog carcasses buried on the property. The warrant never was executed because Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald G. Poindexter said he had issues with the way it was worded.

The results of that search have remained sealed.

At the time, Poindexter expressed surprise at why the federal government was involved.

"What is foreign to me is the federal government getting into a dogfighting case," Poindexter said. "I know it's been done, but what's driving this? Is it this boy's celebrity? Would they have done this if it wasn't Michael Vick?"

A day later, "They launched a separate, independent federal investigation," Poindexter said of the government, which has had a representative involved in the local probe all along.

A search warrant affidavit said some of the dogs were in individual kennels and about 30 were tethered with "heavy logging-type chains" buried in the ground. The chains allowed the dogs to get close to each other, but not to have contact, one of myriad findings on the property that suggested a dogfighting operation.



Vick initially said he had no idea the property might have been used in a criminal enterprise and blamed family members for taking advantage of his generosity. He also put the house up for sale and reportedly sold it quickly, although there is no record that the sale has closed. Vick has since declined to talk about the investigation.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:33 am
by Rockindeano
Piece of garbage.

He will NOT do time, we all know that.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:37 am
by RedWingFan
RockinDeano wrote:Piece of garbage.

He will NOT do time, we all know that.

Yeah if OJ can get off with all that evidence against him. Vick will walk!!!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:42 am
by SteveForever
Hope he goes to a very hot spot for eternity. :evil:

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:51 am
by nikki
Read about this a few weeks ago in SI. Even if he wasn't involved, which I highly doubt, he should still be punished for allowing this to take place on property he owns. He's been playing dumb about the whole thing, but we'll see what happens in the coming weeks. He shouldn't be allowed to play football this season, or any other for that matter. It makes me sick to think of what athletes in this country get away with!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:51 am
by Rick
He might Deano, they may make an example of him on this one.

Ed, you can have TO, where do you want him shipped to?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:15 am
by conversationpc
Let's see if the NFL follows through and suspends him like it did Pacman Jones and the other dude.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:18 am
by Rhiannon
Further proof that the highlight of any Hokie's career is their few years in Blacksburg.

Such a joke now. :(

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:18 am
by RedWingFan
conversationpc wrote:Let's see if the NFL follows through and suspends him like it did Pacman Jones and the other dude.

Tank Johnson!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:21 am
by Soto All The Way
Rick wrote:He might Deano, they may make an example of him on this one.

Ed, you can have TO, where do you want him shipped to?


TO's my boy!!!!

e- :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:41 am
by Rockindeano
Well Johnny Cochrane is dead, so the key next move is to find a black lawyer, someone with some skillz, to play the race card, intertwine it somehow, to prove the Feds are racist, thus this entire thing is predicated on barbaric racial lines. Mr. Vick is a fine young man, who is being stereotyped wrongfully as an animal fighter enthusiast. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:45 am
by dcvader
Calling Roger Goodell... Where you Commish? Getting your 1 year suspension paperwork ready.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:56 am
by Red13JoePa
That Newport News Beach...what a HOTbed of refined young gangs I mean gentlemen there. It's like the Silicone Valley of thuggery. Allen/Gates.....The Vicks/Iverson....the mind boggles.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:26 am
by Rockindeano
Red13JoePa wrote:That Newport News Beach...what a HOTbed of refined young gangs I mean gentlemen there. It's like the Silicone Valley of thuggery. Allen/Gates.....The Vicks/Iverson....the mind boggles.


True, but Penn State has lost some of it's shine lately too bro.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:31 am
by Rhiannon
Red13JoePa wrote:That Newport News Beach...what a HOTbed of refined young gangs I mean gentlemen there. It's like the Silicone Valley of thuggery. Allen/Gates.....The Vicks/Iverson....the mind boggles.


Yes, but w/o that area where in the world would Beamer send scouts to recruit?
My hometown, where Beamer's from? Yeah, right. :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:37 am
by 7 Wishes
I think they should put Vick, wearing nothing more than a steak-scented thong, in the ring with a particularly rabid pit bull with an affinity for Polish Sausage. Winner takes all - if Vick wins, he doesn't have to do time and just pays a fine.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:04 pm
by Red13JoePa
RockinDeano wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:That Newport News Beach...what a HOTbed of refined young gangs I mean gentlemen there. It's like the Silicone Valley of thuggery. Allen/Gates.....The Vicks/Iverson....the mind boggles.


True, but Penn State has lost some of it's shine lately too bro.


Yea, but those players aren't native to University Park. Newport News/VA Beach is a unique area for this stuff.

Blue Radio, you're 22 you don't praps know young Marcus Vick, do you? :)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:33 pm
by Rhiannon
Red13JoePa wrote:Blue Radio, you're 22 you don't praps know young Marcus Vick, do you? :)


Sat at the same table with him and Kevin Jones one night at Kabuki's in Christiansburg with my ex. They had our favorite chef, and were cool to let us sit with them. Only ones in the restaurant, had drinks after dinner with them and then Marcus took off in his brand new tricked out Escalade. Knew something was wrong then. He was a jackass, KJ was a real gentleman.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:37 pm
by Soto All The Way
Yeah, Marcus is a real stand up guy too.....How many gun charges does he have pending against him?? (2), (3)??? The fruits obviously dont't fall far from the tree and are simular in tatse....In other words, they are both thugs with money!!!!

e- :wink: :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:19 pm
by NealIsGod
"The most graphic misconduct allegedly occurred not long before the first search of the property. According to paragraph 83 of the indictment, Vick, Peace, and Phillips executed in April 2007 approximately eight dogs that did not perform well in "testing" sessions, by "hanging, drowning, and slamming at least one dog's body to the ground."

In other words, in the same month in which Vick declared that he never goes to his Surry County property, and the same month in which he sat face-to-face with the Commissioner, Vick had (according to the indictment) participated in the killing of as many as eight dogs deemed unfit for fighting.

Both Vicks are trash. It's amazing that the Falcons ever thought he could lead a team. Vince Young will be everything that Vick was hoped to be. Freak of nature. Not the brightest candle on the birthday cake (scored a 6 on the Wonderlic test!), but seems to have it going on in the leadership department.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:51 pm
by CatEyes
Naughtius Maximus wrote:I think they should put Vick, wearing nothing more than a steak-scented thong, in the ring with a particularly rabid pit bull with an affinity for Polish Sausage. Winner takes all - if Vick wins, he doesn't have to do time and just pays a fine.


this I like.

If, by some quirk of fate, this sorry piece of trash does do some time, I understand that there are those people in the prison population who have no more patience for animal abusers than they do for child abusers - so the abusers are often treated in kind.

:D

I really am trying to be a more compassionate human - however, people like this make it really tough.

Cat

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:00 am
by conversationpc
If Vick is convicted, he should never be allowed back in the NFL, in my opinion.

I like ESPN's headline on this..."Dog Days Ahead". http://www.espn.go.com/

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:05 am
by NealIsGod
conversationpc wrote:If Vick is convicted, he should never be allowed back in the NFL, in my opinion.

I like ESPN's headline on this..."Dog Days Ahead". http://www.espn.go.com/


Convicted or not, IF he ever plays another game in the NFL (which I doubt), the crowds will NEVER let him live it down. I don't think any NFL teams will think he is worth the headache.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:15 am
by Sassie
Unbelievable!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:28 am
by Red13JoePa
And what is this about Cap Man Jones being allowed to practice with an NFL team again come July?!?!?!?!?!?!

You gotta be kidding me!! Come on, Goddell lower the boom on these thugs.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:26 am
by 7 Wishes
NIG, it's good to see you posting again.

The likelihood that Vick will never play in the NFL again is zero...just like there is a zero chance that Journey will "retire" after this JSS debacle. The world doesn't work that way.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:23 am
by T-Bone

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:29 am
by NealIsGod
Naughtius Maximus wrote:NIG, it's good to see you posting again.

The likelihood that Vick will never play in the NFL again is zero...just like there is a zero chance that Journey will "retire" after this JSS debacle. The world doesn't work that way.


Thanks, but you are still 7 Wishes to me. :lol:

I think Vick is done. Even his hometown fans will boo the shit out of him.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:39 am
by Red13JoePa
Can't he just say Ron Mexico did it? :D

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:41 am
by Rhiannon
NealIsGod wrote:Thanks, but you are still 7 Wishes to me. :lol:

I think Vick is done. Even his hometown fans will boo the shit out of him.


Die-hard Hokie since '88. You know, when they were 2-9 or something like that.
Vick was our fuckin' Messiah!!

And I hate him more and more every day. :evil: