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Can Technology Solve Perry's Voice Issues - If there are any

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:32 am
by tj
With everything available through technology today, it seems that there would be something that would allow Perry (or anyone else) to sing and modulate their voice to replicate the original sound of 20/30 years ago. Not tapes, but some sort of synthesizer or something which would enhance the live singing.
If he wanted to sing live, couldn't he come up with something to make the voice sound like it used too? That would solve the issue of having to take every thing down in key, etc.
I know, some will argue that it isn't the true sound, but is anything anymore? Much of Journey's sound has been electronically enhanced at least as far back as Infinity with the drum synthesizers, etc.
(BTW, I am not convinced that Perry can't still sing like he used to, though I can understand how it might be possible).
Re: Can Technology Solve Perry's Voice Issues - If there are

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:49 am
by ArnelRox
tj wrote:With everything available through technology today, it seems that there would be something that would allow Perry (or anyone else) to sing and modulate their voice to replicate the original sound of 20/30 years ago. Not tapes, but some sort of synthesizer or something which would enhance the live singing.
If he wanted to sing live, couldn't he come up with something to make the voice sound like it used too? That would solve the issue of having to take every thing down in key, etc.
I know, some will argue that it isn't the true sound, but is anything anymore? Much of Journey's sound has been electronically enhanced at least as far back as Infinity with the drum synthesizers, etc.
(BTW, I am not convinced that Perry can't still sing like he used to, though I can understand how it might be possible).
I just don't think Perry would be willing to compromise like that. His reputation for being awesome live is his legacy.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:57 am
by Rick
He can't sing the back catalog any longer. He was barely able to squeak by in '94, and that was tuned down. And like JR said, he would never use such a device. If you hear him sing again, it'll be new material that he can handle. He bit off more than he could chew recording songs at such a high pitch and then touring himself to death. His voice started showing signs of wear in the Escape tour as far as I can tell, and it proceeded to deteriorate the longer he toured. After he's stopped touring, it hasn't changed that much. He did everything he could in '86 to get through that tour, but didn't finish it. Nor did he finish his '94 tour. I can imagine mentally that chews him up to think about, which is probably why he's been silent for so long.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:04 pm
by sindee67
If he has vocal issues, I can't see him as one of those singers using technology to make him sound better..

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:08 pm
by tj
sindee67 wrote: If he has vocal issues, I can't see him as one of those singers using technology to make him sound better..
I cant see him doing it either, just wondered what others thought.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:24 pm
by sindee67
tj wrote:sindee67 wrote: If he has vocal issues, I can't see him as one of those singers using technology to make him sound better..
I cant see him doing it either, just wondered what others thought.
Yeah, I don't know him personally, but, he puts me in the mind of those type of guys that if he couldn't, he would
just jump on the HAWG and ride into the sunset...

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:08 pm
by slucero
I'm pretty sure there is no electronic device that can replace lost vocal range... there are "harmonizers" and "pitch correction" devices... but there still need to be a source for this... so no singing in the high range means no sound source to "fix"...

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:35 pm
by squirt1
Although ,all cases are not the same, maybe the surgery Tyler had would help.
Re: Can Technology Solve Perry's Voice Issues - If there are

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:19 pm
by froy
tj wrote:With everything available through technology today, it seems that there would be something that would allow Perry (or anyone else) to sing and modulate their voice to replicate the original sound of 20/30 years ago. Not tapes, but some sort of synthesizer or something which would enhance the live singing.
If he wanted to sing live, couldn't he come up with something to make the voice sound like it used too? That would solve the issue of having to take every thing down in key, etc.
I know, some will argue that it isn't the true sound, but is anything anymore? Much of Journey's sound has been electronically enhanced at least as far back as Infinity with the drum synthesizers, etc.
(BTW, I am not convinced that Perry can't still sing like he used to, though I can understand how it might be possible).
There is no machine for confidence
Re: Can Technology Solve Perry's Voice Issues - If there are

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:28 pm
by ArnelRox
froy wrote:There is no machine for confidence
Boy that would be a shame. Just thinking that a guy as incredibly talented as Perry might have lost his confidence is mind boggling.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:29 pm
by ArnelRox
slucero wrote:I'm pretty sure there is no electronic device that can replace lost vocal range... there are "harmonizers" and "pitch correction" devices... but there still need to be a source for this... so no singing in the high range means no sound source to "fix"...
Live, u mean, right? B/c it CAN be done in the studio.
I still believe Perry can sing the high notes. Perhaps not nite after nite after nite like he did in the early 80s.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:37 pm
by Don
I think Steve could sing in a small club enviroment even now. I think the outside stadium tours are the ones that wore his voice out. When I saw him open for the stones at JFK it seemed he was almost yelling to compensate for the larger crowd ( which unfortunately were not really Journey fans. To be fair the singer for Foreigner seemed to be doing the same thing. Mick was the only one that seemed to be right at home). When i saw Journey inside the Philly spectrum in a smaller venue it sounded like straight off the Escape record. Maybe if he performs a few inside gigs the magic will be there but a one off farewell tour that takes him to outside arenas would probably be disasterous for his chords. The karaoke mike would be a slap in his face for him to use in a live setting to enhance his voice.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:18 pm
by slucero
JR (Susie) wrote:slucero wrote:I'm pretty sure there is no electronic device that can replace lost vocal range... there are "harmonizers" and "pitch correction" devices... but there still need to be a source for this... so no singing in the high range means no sound source to "fix"...
Live, u mean, right? B/c it CAN be done in the studio.
I still believe Perry can sing the high notes. Perhaps not nite after nite after nite like he did in the early 80s.
Actually my statement holds true in the studio to some degree.... studio/live sound engineers can only work with whatever the performer delivers.... they have to have "source" material to work with.....so if Perry were to sing but not be able to hit the higher range stuff.... there really is no way to create something from nothing....
In todays modern, computer based recording studios... its very easy to "fix" parts of a performance that. It's essentially just "cut and paste". There are also software tools that allow the texturing of vocals and fixing of off-pitch notes.... but these have to be used frugally or they become very noticeable.

Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:49 pm
by ddregs
Let him sing Cher's Believe top-hit then.


Posted:
Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:10 pm
by lakeman
There's not a chance Steve will alter his voice to try to make a comeback. Absolutely no way. He he can't do it by himself he won't do it. Now any studio recording is filtered, mixed and whatnot but not so much to alter the sound....

Posted:
Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:14 am
by slucero
ddregs wrote:Let him sing Cher's Believe top-hit then.

LOL ddregs!!

Posted:
Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:33 am
by garysings
Gunbot wrote:I think Steve could sing in a small club enviroment even now. I think the outside stadium tours are the ones that wore his voice out. When I saw him open for the stones at JFK it seemed he was almost yelling to compensate for the larger crowd ( which unfortunately were not really Journey fans. To be fair the singer for Foreigner seemed to be doing the same thing. Mick was the only one that seemed to be right at home). When i saw Journey inside the Philly spectrum in a smaller venue it sounded like straight off the Escape record. Maybe if he performs a few inside gigs the magic will be there but a one off farewell tour that takes him to outside arenas would probably be disasterous for his chords. The karaoke mike would be a slap in his face for him to use in a live setting to enhance his voice.
What difference does it make if he is inside or outside? He is voice is amplified either way. He doesnt sing louder outside than inside just uses bigger speakers/amps. What is a karaoke mic, Im not familiar with that?
There are voice processors that you sing into and out comes your voice a full octave higher or lower if you wish. Hey that could be fun, where did I put that Sam Ash catalog. heh