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Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:55 am**

JR (Susie) wrote:U know for years I thought Neal was really a God w/his guitar. I now think I was blinded by the way Perry sang alongside it. I've been listening a bit closer to other guitar players. I got turned onto Yngwie by my friend Behshad here. I checked out a few tunes & man, he's amazing. Way superior to Neal.

I love Yngwie's playing but the only thing you can say about him is that his technique is superior to Neals...perhaps. However, who's better than who is subjective.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:58 am**

conversationpc wrote:
JR (Susie) wrote:U know for years I thought Neal was really a God w/his guitar. I now think I was blinded by the way Perry sang alongside it. I've been listening a bit closer to other guitar players. I got turned onto Yngwie by my friend Behshad here. I checked out a few tunes & man, he's amazing. Way superior to Neal.

I love Yngwie's playing but the only thing you can say about him is that his technique is superior to Neals...perhaps. However, who's better than who is subjective.

Yngwie has remained consistently AWESOME for what like 25 years? Don't u think Neal just shreds now? It's not the same passionate way it sounded when Perry was there.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:58 am**

Neal shreds now and plays with absolutely no feeling whatsoever. His tone sucks and his playing is robotic.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:00 am**

JR (Susie) wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
JR (Susie) wrote:U know for years I thought Neal was really a God w/his guitar. I now think I was blinded by the way Perry sang alongside it. I've been listening a bit closer to other guitar players. I got turned onto Yngwie by my friend Behshad here. I checked out a few tunes & man, he's amazing. Way superior to Neal.

I love Yngwie's playing but the only thing you can say about him is that his technique is superior to Neals...perhaps. However, who's better than who is subjective.

Yngwie has remained consistently AWESOME for what like 25 years? Don't u think Neal just shreds now? It's not the same passionate way it sounded when Perry was there.

Yngwie still plays the same notes, scales, arpeggios, etc., as he has for the last 20-something years. Neal has grown as a player, spicing up his playing with jazzier chords and licks, more blues influences, new age influences, etc. So in that respect Neal has grown more as a player than Yngwie has. Don't get me wrong, Yngwie is at the top of the game as far as jaw-dropping technique but he hasn't really grown anywhere near as much as a player than Neal has.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:02 am**

conversationpc wrote: Yngwie still plays the same notes, scales, arpeggios, etc., as he has for the last 20-something years. Neal has grown as a player, spicing up his playing with jazzier chords and licks, more blues influences, new age influences, etc. So in that respect Neal has grown more as a player than Yngwie has. Don't get me wrong, Yngwie is at the top of the game as far as jaw-dropping technique but he hasn't really grown anywhere near as much as a player than Neal has.

NOW? But he's just playing & replaying the dirty dozen. What's new? Oh that song in VA. But um that was lame.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:02 am**

As a side note, if you haven't heard Yngwie's "Concerto Suite for Electric Guitar", you should purchase it immediately.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:03 am**

JR (Susie) wrote:
conversationpc wrote: Yngwie still plays the same notes, scales, arpeggios, etc., as he has for the last 20-something years. Neal has grown as a player, spicing up his playing with jazzier chords and licks, more blues influences, new age influences, etc. So in that respect Neal has grown more as a player than Yngwie has. Don't get me wrong, Yngwie is at the top of the game as far as jaw-dropping technique but he hasn't really grown anywhere near as much as a player than Neal has.

NOW? But he's just playing & replaying the dirty dozen. What's new? Oh that song in VA. But um that was lame.

I'm not talking about his playing when he's doing just the Journey stuff, though even some of the things he did with the live version of "La Raza Del Sol", for instance, was very good.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:04 am**

Recent events aside, you can't falt Neal's playing. he's up there with the very best ever and doesn't get some of the accolades that Van Halen and Lukather get.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:06 am**

Andrew wrote:Recent events aside, you can't falt Neal's playing. he's up there with the very best ever and doesn't get some of the accolades that Van Halen and Lukather get.

EVH used to be my god but I think Neal is a better overall player.

Anyway, as far as EVH goes, the dude gets lots of props for his soloing but I've always been more impressed with the guy's rhythm playing. THAT's what keeps a song together, in my opinion.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:06 am**

JR (Susie) wrote:
conversationpc wrote: Yngwie still plays the same notes, scales, arpeggios, etc., as he has for the last 20-something years. Neal has grown as a player, spicing up his playing with jazzier chords and licks, more blues influences, new age influences, etc. So in that respect Neal has grown more as a player than Yngwie has. Don't get me wrong, Yngwie is at the top of the game as far as jaw-dropping technique but he hasn't really grown anywhere near as much as a player than Neal has.

NOW? But he's just playing & replaying the dirty dozen. What's new? Oh that song in VA. But um that was lame.

That VA song was a fucking shit ball!

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:08 am**

dcvader wrote:
JR (Susie) wrote:
conversationpc wrote: Yngwie still plays the same notes, scales, arpeggios, etc., as he has for the last 20-something years. Neal has grown as a player, spicing up his playing with jazzier chords and licks, more blues influences, new age influences, etc. So in that respect Neal has grown more as a player than Yngwie has. Don't get me wrong, Yngwie is at the top of the game as far as jaw-dropping technique but he hasn't really grown anywhere near as much as a player than Neal has.

NOW? But he's just playing & replaying the dirty dozen. What's new? Oh that song in VA. But um that was lame.

That VA song was a fucking shit ball!

Thats cuz Cain wrote it!!!!

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:11 am**

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Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:14 am**

JR (Susie) wrote:U know for years I thought Neal was really a God w/his guitar. I now think I was blinded by the way Perry sang alongside it. I've been listening a bit closer to other guitar players. I got turned onto Yngwie by my friend Behshad here. I checked out a few tunes & man, he's amazing. Way superior to Neal.

Then I listened to the track our own Larry From Next Door did w/Jeremey singing. U know what Larry is a better guitarist than Neal these days. Seriously. Neal no longer plays w/feeling. He just shreds now. He's gone downhill all the way.

I was also checking out the FTLOSM boots. Lincoln Brewster is amazing on those Journey songs. He played them respectfully & really well. Comparing those boots w/more recent Journey boots, I just get the feeling that Neal just rushes thru them to get a paycheck these days.

Your right, Larry is an awesome guitar player. I've listened to alot of his stuff and he's incredible.
For those that haven't heard it, here's the one with him and Jeremey...

http://download.yousendit.com/4D40BE491D86F198

and here is Larry's own blues piece...

http://download.yousendit.com/344F44886C6A4FAA

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:17 am**

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Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:22 am**

JR (Susie) wrote:
Andrew wrote:Recent events aside, you can't falt Neal's playing. he's up there with the very best ever and doesn't get some of the accolades that Van Halen and Lukather get.

He used to be. But I don't think he is anymore. Sorry. He's past it now. Long past it. No emotion anymore. Just mindless shredding.

You need to take a few days off. Neal, despite his passion for cock, has improved over the years, NOT declined.

Get off the meds you kook. :wink:

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:22 am**

JR (Susie) wrote:
TVL wrote:Your right, Larry is an awesome guitar player. I've listened to alot of his stuff and he's incredible.
For those that haven't heard it, here's the one with him and Jeremey...

http://download.yousendit.com/4D40BE491D86F198

and here is Larry's own blues piece...

http://download.yousendit.com/344F44886C6A4FAA

Thanks I'm getting the blues one. Tell me that Larry isn't better on You Better Wait than Neal is today? Yeah I know Neal didnt play that song but u get my drift.

Yep, he's better.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:25 am**

JR (Susie) wrote:U know for years I thought Neal was really a God w/his guitar. I now think I was blinded by the way Perry sang alongside it. I've been listening a bit closer to other guitar players. I got turned onto Yngwie by my friend Behshad here. I checked out a few tunes & man, he's amazing. Way superior to Neal.

Um, no. Not hardly.

Then I listened to the track our own Larry From Next Door did w/Jeremey singing. U know what Larry is a better guitarist than Neal these days. Seriously. Neal no longer plays w/feeling. He just shreds now. He's gone downhill all the way.

You are definitely fucking insane. I am sure my good pal Larry is embarrassed to all Hell now. Neal is better than Larry, I am pretty sure of that.

I was also checking out the FTLOSM boots. Lincoln Brewster is amazing on those Journey songs. He played them respectfully & really well. Comparing those boots w/more recent Journey boots, I just get the feeling that Neal just rushes thru them to get a paycheck these days.

Lincoln Brewster is ok...He is but a pimple on Schon's ass.

Put aside your hate for Neal when talking about his craft.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:25 am**

JR (Susie) wrote:Then I listened to the track our own Larry From Next Door did w/Jeremey singing. U know what Larry is a better guitarist than Neal these days.

thanks a bunch suz,, but Neal Schon not only blows aways the fans, but his peers.. everyone of them ..he is looked up to in the Guitar community ,, even though there are huge hot spots of Journey haters,,(older blues community),, lots of guys can play faster and more technicle than neal , but they cant write songs... then put the perfect solo in it,, im a guitar midget compared to neal .. :wink:

ps. im really still upset with him , and STILL dont want to listen to old stuff ..

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:28 am**

RockinDeano wrote:[
You are definitely fucking insane. I am sure my good pal Larry is embarrassed to all Hell now. Neal is better than Larry, I am pretty sure of that.

.. shes just ticked off BIG TIME at neal tonite!

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:28 am**

Susie has fucking lost it.

This thread puts you into the Coockoo house and only Matthew can save you, after he gets done shaving his legs and putting on his dress.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:28 am**

Andrew wrote:Recent events aside, you can't fault Neal's playing. he's up there with the very best ever and doesn't get some of the accolades that Van Halen and Lukather get.

I so agree, Andrew. Neal will always be my favorite guitarist regardless of who he might be as a person. He has a true gift.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:35 am**

Andrew wrote:Recent events aside, you can't falt Neal's playing. he's up there with the very best ever and doesn't get some of the accolades that Van Halen and Lukather get.

Saw TOTO live the other night and sat very close to the stage. I can say that Luke deserves every bit of praise he receives and more. The guy is awesome and is also much more engaging of the crowd than Neal Schon.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:36 am**

Andrew wrote:Recent events aside, you can't falt Neal's playing. he's up there with the very best ever and doesn't get some of the accolades that Van Halen and Lukather get.

I couldn't agree more. I love Neal's playing. I also think Richie Sambora is a good player.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:48 am**

Arrival09 wrote:
Andrew wrote:Recent events aside, you can't falt Neal's playing. he's up there with the very best ever and doesn't get some of the accolades that Van Halen and Lukather get.

Saw TOTO live the other night and sat very close to the stage. I can say that Luke deserves every bit of praise he receives and more. The guy is awesome and is also much more engaging of the crowd than Neal Schon.

Luke is unreal. Puts Neal to shame IMHO.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:48 am**

Neal WAS good. Now he shreds too much. Very sad shell of himself.

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:25 pm**

JR (Susie) wrote:
Arrival09 wrote:
Andrew wrote:Recent events aside, you can't falt Neal's playing. he's up there with the very best ever and doesn't get some of the accolades that Van Halen and Lukather get.

Saw TOTO live the other night and sat very close to the stage. I can say that Luke deserves every bit of praise he receives and more. The guy is awesome and is also much more engaging of the crowd than Neal Schon.

Luke is unreal. Puts Neal to shame IMHO.

Luke and Neal are both excellent players...I think Luke focused more on jazz and improvisation...more recently he's been sounding like Jeff Beck....Neal I think has been sounding the same for along time...I dunno...Be great to have those two make an album

Posted: **Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:53 pm**

Lula wrote:
Andrew wrote:Recent events aside, you can't falt Neal's playing. he's up there with the very best ever and doesn't get some of the accolades that Van Halen and Lukather get.

I couldn't agree more. I love Neal's playing. I also think Richie Sambora is a good player.

So do I Lu. LOL but while playing, damned if Richie doesn't have worse guitar face then Neal.

And as much as Neal's character leaves a lot to be desired, I can't knock his talent when it comes to the guitar. I still have great memories of the magic that came out of Perry's vocals and Schon's guitar.......and what could have been, with Jeff. Even though I've lost any respect I had for the guy, that classic Journey music isn't leaving my player anytime soon.

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