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Michael Bolton was rocker once... Neal and Jon were there...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:53 am
by Maro
Once upon a time, Michael Bolton was a rocker... but then he changed style and moved on bedroom background music...

Here are reviews of his first THREE albums... first two he later tried to erase from his official discography... and on third are featured two familiar guys (not so popular lately, though) - Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain...

http://www.glory-daze.com/print.php?type=A&item_id=812

http://www.glory-daze.com/print.php?type=A&item_id=972

http://www.glory-daze.com/print.php?type=A&item_id=600

here are couple of videos from that period:

Fool's Game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L72uh4u5WCw

Everybody's Crazy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqfRGzx3o9c

Sittin' On The Dock Of The Bay - watch carefully for some familiar faces
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90NsO02Qy38

Wait On Love - watch carefully for some familiar faces
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e519dlOWmZE

Re: Michael Bolton was rocker once... Neal and Jon were ther

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:58 am
by Wheels Of Fyre
I'm in the minority - maybe the ONLY person who thinks that JOURNEY should've recruited MB after SP "retired" after ROR. The guy rocks and can sing it all.

Re: Michael Bolton was rocker once... Neal and Jon were ther

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:05 am
by Maro
Wheels Of Fyre wrote:I'm in the minority - maybe the ONLY person who thinks that JOURNEY should've recruited MB after SP "retired" after ROR. The guy rocks and can sing it all.


Actually, it almost happened... Neal, Jonathan and Randy Jackson performed couple of Journey songs with Michael Bolton on some music awards back in 1987. if I'm correct. Steve Perry was sitting in public. Journey got some award for Raised On Radio then...
Don't remember who was on drums, though... wasn't Mike Baird...

Re: Michael Bolton was rocker once... Neal and Jon were ther

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:08 am
by G.I.Jim
Maro wrote:Once upon a time, Michael Bolton was a rocker... but then he changed style and moved on bedroom background music...

Here are reviews of his first THREE albums... first two he later tried to erase from his official discography... and on third are featured two familiar guys (not so popular lately, though) - Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain...

http://www.glory-daze.com/print.php?type=A&item_id=812

http://www.glory-daze.com/print.php?type=A&item_id=972

http://www.glory-daze.com/print.php?type=A&item_id=600

here are couple of videos from that period:

Fool's Game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L72uh4u5WCw

Everybody's Crazy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqfRGzx3o9c

Sittin' On The Dock Of The Bay - watch carefully for some familiar faces
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90NsO02Qy38

Wait On Love - watch carefully for some familiar faces
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e519dlOWmZE


Thanks for sharing! I really liked "Wait on love". I can almost hear it being a Bad English song(with a little tweaking). I forgot that they played with Bolton!

Re: Michael Bolton was rocker once... Neal and Jon were ther

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:13 am
by Maro
G.I.Jim wrote: Thanks for sharing! I really liked "Wait on love". I can almost hear it being a Bad English song(with a little tweaking). I forgot that they played with Bolton!


You're welcome... :)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:36 am
by T-Bone
Yup... MB really had some pipes on him back in the late 70's and early-mid 80's and Rock really suited his vocal talents. Bruce Kulick of Kiss fame played guitar for him on many albums from BlackJack and on his first 2 solo albums.


Sure he became a multimillian seller doing his balladeer type stuff, but you have to wonder... what coulda been? 8) :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:43 am
by Maro
T-Bone wrote:Sure he became a multimillian seller doing his balladeer type stuff, but you have to wonder... what coulda been? 8) :wink:


Exactly. There is also a question what would have been with Journey if they continued with him after ROR.

Re: Michael Bolton was rocker once... Neal and Jon were ther

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:48 am
by Ms_M
Maro wrote:
Wheels Of Fyre wrote:I'm in the minority - maybe the ONLY person who thinks that JOURNEY should've recruited MB after SP "retired" after ROR. The guy rocks and can sing it all.


Actually, it almost happened... Neal, Jonathan and Randy Jackson performed couple of Journey songs with Michael Bolton on some music awards back in 1987. if I'm correct. Steve Perry was sitting in public. Journey got some award for Raised On Radio then...
Don't remember who was on drums, though... wasn't Mike Baird...


Might it have been Jon's brother, Mugs??? He toured with Bolton for years.

Re: Michael Bolton was rocker once... Neal and Jon were ther

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:10 am
by cyndy!
Ms_M wrote:Might it have been Jon's brother, Mugs??? He toured with Bolton for years.


yes, the drummer was mugs cain.

it'll be interesting to see what michael does next. he just switched mgt - working with azoff now.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:43 am
by AR
I saw Bolton open for Heart years ago. Frig and Fro were there.

Re: Michael Bolton was rocker once... Neal and Jon were ther

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:47 am
by Rick
cyndy! wrote:
Ms_M wrote:Might it have been Jon's brother, Mugs??? He toured with Bolton for years.


yes, the drummer was mugs cain.

it'll be interesting to see what michael does next. he just switched mgt - working with azoff now.


Man (or woman, sorry) that dude Azoff has a monopoly on touring bands.

Re: Michael Bolton was rocker once... Neal and Jon were ther

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:59 pm
by rtz
G.I.Jim wrote:
Maro wrote:Once upon a time, Michael Bolton was a rocker... but then he changed style and moved on bedroom background music...

Fool's Game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L72uh4u5WCw



I remember being dragged to a concert of his by my girlfriend after Bolton had turned into a complete pussy. Between every song, when it was quiet, I kept yelling "FOOLS GAME". I knew there was no chance in hell he would dare play that song, but I wanted to irritate his sorry ass while he was picking up the roses the women were throwing on stage to him. I even yelled "I was buying your albums when nobody else had heard of you". Pissed the hell out of my girlfriend.

There were some decent tunes on that "Michael Bolton" album. I've always thought Fools Game was great, and liked the song he did with Schon and Cain "You're All That I Need" off of "The Hunger".

Speaking of Bolton, I heard a great quote about Bryan Adams a few years ago related to Bolton. Dean, you might not want to read this one.... It said something like:

"Bryan Adams used to be a poor man's Bruce Springsteen - now he's a poor man's Michael Bolton". Ouch!

You're half right....

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:25 pm
by AlienC
AR wrote:I saw Bolton open for Heart years ago. Frig and Fro were there.

Well, actually , the guitar player for the tour was Stef Burns (Alice Cooper , Huey Lewis, Y&T, et al).

Stef

Re: Michael Bolton was rocker once... Neal and Jon were ther

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:49 pm
by Ms_M
cyndy! wrote:
Ms_M wrote:Might it have been Jon's brother, Mugs??? He toured with Bolton for years.


yes, the drummer was mugs cain.

it'll be interesting to see what michael does next. he just switched mgt - working with azoff now.


Thanks for the info, Cyndy. I thought it was him. In fact, I remember seeing him in the video for Sittin' on the Dock of the Bay.

Not sure how thrilled I am about Bolton working with Azoff.... :x

Re: Michael Bolton was rocker once... Neal and Jon were ther

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:43 pm
by Maro
rtz wrote:I remember being dragged to a concert of his by my girlfriend after Bolton had turned into a complete pussy. Between every song, when it was quiet, I kept yelling "FOOLS GAME". I knew there was no chance in hell he would dare play that song, but I wanted to irritate his sorry ass while he was picking up the roses the women were throwing on stage to him. I even yelled "I was buying your albums when nobody else had heard of you". Pissed the hell out of my girlfriend.



Hahahah, great story, man... I'd love if I was too at this concert... :lol:
I have nothing against Bolton for doing what he does, but he's kinda funny for denying his rocking past... When you check his official site, there isn't a word about his two albums from BLACK JACK, and first two MICHAEL BOLTON albums which rocked the house...

Re: Michael Bolton was rocker once... Neal and Jon were ther

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:16 pm
by Matthew


That's such a great AOR track, Maro. First time I've heard it....

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:41 pm
by T-Bone
I have the first Bolton solo cd from 83 for sale in the trade section. Fools Game is the first track

http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... hp?t=27508

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:05 am
by Socratic Methodist
And you also have to imagine what might have been if Richard Page(Mr. Mister) actually said yes to Chicago when they offered him the vacated vocalist position after Cetera left. Would've never got to here Jason Scheff.....Personally, I think Scheff has the better voice.

Furthermore, he was asked to replace Bobby Kimball, in Toto.....he declined.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:57 am
by Maro
Socratic Methodist wrote:And you also have to imagine what might have been if Richard Page(Mr. Mister) actually said yes to Chicago when they offered him the vacated vocalist position after Cetera left. Would've never got to here Jason Scheff.....Personally, I think Scheff has the better voice.

Furthermore, he was asked to replace Bobby Kimball, in Toto.....he declined.


Indeed, but from all bands I am listening, Journey definetely has the most of "what might have been?" questions thru their history... :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:17 am
by Matthew
Maro wrote:
Socratic Methodist wrote:And you also have to imagine what might have been if Richard Page(Mr. Mister) actually said yes to Chicago when they offered him the vacated vocalist position after Cetera left. Would've never got to here Jason Scheff.....Personally, I think Scheff has the better voice.

Furthermore, he was asked to replace Bobby Kimball, in Toto.....he declined.


Indeed, but from all bands I am listening, Journey definetely has the most of "what might have been?" questions thru their history... :lol:



Oh...I don't know....at least seven classic albums...75 million units shifted worldwide...I wouldn't say this band has suffered from unfulfilled potential would you?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:20 am
by Maro
Matthew wrote:Oh...I don't know....at least seven classic albums...75 million units shifted worldwide...I wouldn't say this band has suffered from unfulfilled potential would you?


I agree they have strong numbers behind them, but there was a large space for even more...
many crossing points thru time... different possibilities... some could have been positive, some negative...