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Arnel singing faithfully 1/2 step higher ?!?!?!?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:30 am
by Liquid_Drummer
Why the hell did they do this ? Hard enough as it is.... Hmm Someone please shoot the fucking guitar player !!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_XvWeZF ... ed&search=

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:34 am
by Liquid_Drummer
Just finished watching.. Damn, he did it.... Hope those cords are teflon coated !!

On you tube

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:40 am
by journeywoman
Go to this same site and scroll and look he even sings Van Halen.Why he just sings all the golden oldies .What will he come up with next???

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:04 am
by Granny
He'll certainly do the catalog justice, but so can Jeremey..

Jason Kelty on the other hand, is perfect! He gives me goose-bumps!!!!!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:16 am
by RSParker
Great vocalist.

Re: Arnel singing faithfully 1/2 step higher ?!?!?!?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:26 am
by Lady Luck
Liquid_Drummer wrote:Hmm Someone please shoot the fucking guitar player !!!


LOL...I've learned to tune out the others in the band. :lol:

LOVE this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiGITj1p ... ed&search=

Awesome cover of Heart's "Alone" too.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:34 am
by Saint John
From 5:10 to 5:17 he is VERY Perryish. Great cover...this dude fuckin' rocks.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ahgjM_y ... ed&search=

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:48 am
by Lady Luck

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:01 am
by larryfromnextdoor
all songs sound better in ....."F".... :?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:44 am
by Greg
Sorry, he hasn't sold me on being a Journey frontman. The man does have some pipes though. He's an excellent singer! I think he would be great for a band like Survivor.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:58 am
by Aaron
Dude,

I've listened to most of the Arnel stuff on here and I still don't get it. The accent aside, this guy still does absolutely zero for me. Do you guys really think this guy could pull it off? I don't think he's even in the ball park of a viable option.

L8r,

Aaron

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:08 am
by Journey/Survivor
Aaron wrote:Dude,

I've listened to most of the Arnel stuff on here and I still don't get it. The accent aside, this guy still does absolutely zero for me. Do you guys really think this guy could pull it off? I don't think he's even in the ball park of a viable option.

L8r,

Aaron


I've listened to him sing several of Perry's Journey songs, Survivor with Jimi Jamison, Survivor with Dave Bickler, Boston with Brad Delp, and a couple of other songs, and the can flat out sing!

Seriously, this guy has a great voice and seems to be able to sing almost anything.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:11 pm
by Aaron
Dude,

I'm with you. The guy has range out the ass for sure and power. I've listened to the Boston, Survivor and Journey stuff too. I just don't get it. It's probably just me but I didn't like any of it. The Boston stuff especially rubbed me wrong. He can hit the notes but doesn't have the soul in my opinion. I'll take Hugo, Kevin or Jeremey any day over this guy

L8r bro,

Aaron

Journey/Survivor wrote:
Aaron wrote:Dude,

I've listened to most of the Arnel stuff on here and I still don't get it. The accent aside, this guy still does absolutely zero for me. Do you guys really think this guy could pull it off? I don't think he's even in the ball park of a viable option.

L8r,

Aaron


I've listened to him sing several of Perry's Journey songs, Survivor with Jimi Jamison, Survivor with Dave Bickler, Boston with Brad Delp, and a couple of other songs, and the can flat out sing!

Seriously, this guy has a great voice and seems to be able to sing almost anything.

Re: Arnel singing faithfully 1/2 step higher ?!?!?!?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:15 pm
by Aaron
I can only speculate on explanation if it's a half step up. IF Arnel has trouble with the transition from his normal voice to falsetto, he may be stepping it up a half step to ensure he doesn't have transition issues from normal to falsetto voice. That's the only reason I can think of. Dude, you're a musician and vocalist if I remember right. What do you think? You probably know more than I do!

Liquid_Drummer wrote:Why the hell did they do this ? Hard enough as it is.... Hmm Someone please shoot the fucking guitar player !!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_XvWeZF ... ed&search=

Re: Arnel singing faithfully 1/2 step higher ?!?!?!?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:27 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
Aaron wrote:I can only speculate on explanation if it's a half step up. IF Arnel has trouble with the transition from his normal voice to falsetto, he may be stepping it up a half step to ensure he doesn't have transition issues from normal to falsetto voice. That's the only reason I can think of. Dude, you're a musician and vocalist if I remember right. What do you think? You probably know more than I do!

Liquid_Drummer wrote:Why the hell did they do this ? Hard enough as it is.... Hmm Someone please shoot the fucking guitar player !!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_XvWeZF ... ed&search=


the song is in F here.. which the notes could be played in the realitive Dm..im just guessing that it would be easier for the piano player to KEY it in on his keyboard.. OR the guitar player could play the solo in Dm instead of C#m,, realitive speaking ,, of course.. :shock: 8)

OR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that little waltz intro they did was in Fmaj,, AND the dang keyboard player started the song in the WRONG KEY... after the first .."faithfully....." the guitar player very timidly strikes that first note,, and then BLOWS the solo.... because hes got the solo memorized in Emaj,, and , on the fly, is trying to transpose it into Fmaj.. its just a half step difference, but a pain in the neck in front of people ect......notice Arns face trying to sing that ending ,, . stinking keyboard players...... :wink:

Re: Arnel singing faithfully 1/2 step higher ?!?!?!?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:38 pm
by Aaron
Lar,

You're the man. I defer to you bro. Hopefully we can hook up in SB and you can educate me some more. How's TX treating you bro?

L8r bro,

Aaron

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Aaron wrote:I can only speculate on explanation if it's a half step up. IF Arnel has trouble with the transition from his normal voice to falsetto, he may be stepping it up a half step to ensure he doesn't have transition issues from normal to falsetto voice. That's the only reason I can think of. Dude, you're a musician and vocalist if I remember right. What do you think? You probably know more than I do!

Liquid_Drummer wrote:Why the hell did they do this ? Hard enough as it is.... Hmm Someone please shoot the fucking guitar player !!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_XvWeZF ... ed&search=


the song is in F here.. which the notes could be played in the realitive Dm..im just guessing that it would be easier for the piano player to KEY it in on his keyboard.. OR the guitar player could play the solo in Dm instead of C#m,, realitive speaking ,, of course.. :shock: 8)

OR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that little waltz intro they did was in Fmaj,, AND the dang keyboard player started the song in the WRONG KEY... after the first .."faithfully....." the guitar player very timidly stricks that first note,, and then BLOWS the solo.... because hes got the solo memorized in Emaj,, and , on the fly, is trying to transpose it into Fmaj.. its just a half step difference, but a pain in the neck in front of people ect......notice Arns face trying to sing that ending ,, . stinking keyboard players...... :wink:

Re: Arnel singing faithfully 1/2 step higher ?!?!?!?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:43 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
Aaron wrote:Lar,

You're the man. I defer to you bro. Hopefully we can hook up in SB and you can educate me some more. How's TX treating you bro?

L8r bro,

Aaron


hot and sweaty 8) texas summers are cruel... but the chicks dress for it.. :wink: yep,, 45 year old chicks,, my bag..

Re: Arnel singing faithfully 1/2 step higher ?!?!?!?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:49 pm
by Aaron
I'm with ya bro. It's been hotter than fuck up here too. We had a high of 96 in Indiana if you can believe it. I'll have to check out the dress of the chicks though.:) Actually, I'll let you know Saturday.

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Aaron wrote:Lar,

You're the man. I defer to you bro. Hopefully we can hook up in SB and you can educate me some more. How's TX treating you bro?

L8r bro,

Aaron


hot and sweaty 8) texas summers are cruel... but the chicks dress for it.. :wink: yep,, 45 year old chicks,, my bag..

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:50 pm
by Journey/Survivor
Aaron wrote:Dude,

I'm with you. The guy has range out the ass for sure and power. I've listened to the Boston, Survivor and Journey stuff too. I just don't get it. It's probably just me but I didn't like any of it. The Boston stuff especially rubbed me wrong. He can hit the notes but doesn't have the soul in my opinion. I'll take Hugo, Kevin or Jeremey any day over this guy

L8r bro,

Aaron

Journey/Survivor wrote:
Aaron wrote:Dude,

I've listened to most of the Arnel stuff on here and I still don't get it. The accent aside, this guy still does absolutely zero for me. Do you guys really think this guy could pull it off? I don't think he's even in the ball park of a viable option.

L8r,

Aaron


I've listened to him sing several of Perry's Journey songs, Survivor with Jimi Jamison, Survivor with Dave Bickler, Boston with Brad Delp, and a couple of other songs, and the can flat out sing!

Seriously, this guy has a great voice and seems to be able to sing almost anything.




I'd still prefer that they get Kevin Chalfant. But I can definitely live with this Pineda guy.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:51 pm
by Rick
Ok, listen up gatorzone, I'll only say this once. I would rather see Hugo front Journey than this guy. With that said, I think he has an excellent voice, but his accent kills it. In "Amazing", he sings "I lost my greep". He does Steven Tyler very well, but again, the accent destroys it. I will remain with my aforementioned preferences and say that I would prefer to see Journey with 1) Steve Perry, 2) JSS, 3) Jeremey Hunsicker. Now, 4) Hugo. Arnel is a great singer, but... well you know the rest.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:52 pm
by Aaron
I'm with you on Chalfant, Jeremey or Hugo. I'm not good with Arnel, the dude just doesn't have the vibe in my opinion. The weird thing is I can't explain it. He can hit the notes but I just don't get it. Maybe it's his delivery?

Journey/Survivor wrote:
Aaron wrote:Dude,

I'm with you. The guy has range out the ass for sure and power. I've listened to the Boston, Survivor and Journey stuff too. I just don't get it. It's probably just me but I didn't like any of it. The Boston stuff especially rubbed me wrong. He can hit the notes but doesn't have the soul in my opinion. I'll take Hugo, Kevin or Jeremey any day over this guy

L8r bro,

Aaron

Journey/Survivor wrote:
Aaron wrote:Dude,

I've listened to most of the Arnel stuff on here and I still don't get it. The accent aside, this guy still does absolutely zero for me. Do you guys really think this guy could pull it off? I don't think he's even in the ball park of a viable option.

L8r,

Aaron


I've listened to him sing several of Perry's Journey songs, Survivor with Jimi Jamison, Survivor with Dave Bickler, Boston with Brad Delp, and a couple of other songs, and the can flat out sing!

Seriously, this guy has a great voice and seems to be able to sing almost anything.




I'd still prefer that they get Kevin Chalfant. But I can definitely live with this Pineda guy.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:59 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
could robert fleishman be a contender???

Re: Arnel singing faithfully 1/2 step higher ?!?!?!?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:03 pm
by Moon Beam
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Aaron wrote:Lar,

You're the man. I defer to you bro. Hopefully we can hook up in SB and you can educate me some more. How's TX treating you bro?

L8r bro,

Aaron


hot and sweaty 8) texas summers are cruel... but the chicks dress for it.. :wink: yep,, 45 year old chicks,, my bag..




No one does it like you Sir :lol: , thanks for the shakes Lar.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:04 pm
by Aaron
Rick,

Don't be bagging on my boy Hugo bro. :)

L8r,

Aaron

Rick wrote:Ok, listen up gatorzone, I'll only say this once. I would rather see Hugo front Journey than this guy. With that said, I think he has an excellent voice, but his accent kills it. In "Amazing", he sings "I lost my greep". He does Steven Tyler very well, but again, the accent destroys it. I will remain with my aforementioned preferences and say that I would prefer to see Journey with 1) Steve Perry, 2) JSS, 3) Jeremey Hunsicker. Now, 4) Hugo. Arnel is a great singer, but... well you know the rest.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:05 pm
by Aaron
hmm, his earlier clips were a lot better than I expected. I wouldn't rule out paying to see Bob fronting Journey.

larryfromnextdoor wrote:could robert fleishman be a contender???

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:11 pm
by Aaron
And here is why ....


http://www.hugotunes.com/about_us.html

Rick wrote:Ok, listen up gatorzone, I'll only say this once. I would rather see Hugo front Journey than this guy. With that said, I think he has an excellent voice, but his accent kills it. In "Amazing", he sings "I lost my greep". He does Steven Tyler very well, but again, the accent destroys it. I will remain with my aforementioned preferences and say that I would prefer to see Journey with 1) Steve Perry, 2) JSS, 3) Jeremey Hunsicker. Now, 4) Hugo. Arnel is a great singer, but... well you know the rest.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:12 pm
by stevew2
Aaron wrote:Dude,

I'm with you. The guy has range out the ass for sure and power. I've listened to the Boston, Survivor and Journey stuff too. I just don't get it. It's probably just me but I didn't like any of it. The Boston stuff especially rubbed me wrong. He can hit the notes but doesn't have the soul in my opinion. I'll take Hugo, Kevin or Jeremey any day over this guy

L8r bro,

Aaron

Journey/Survivor wrote:
Aaron wrote:Dude,

I've listened to most of the Arnel stuff on here and I still don't get it. The accent aside, this guy still does absolutely zero for me. Do you guys really think this guy could pull it off? I don't think he's even in the ball park of a viable option.

L8r,

Aaron


I've listened to him sing several of Perry's Journey songs, Survivor with Jimi Jamison, Survivor with Dave Bickler, Boston with Brad Delp, and a couple of other songs, and the can flat out sing!

Seriously, this guy has a great voice and seems to be able to sing almost anything.

maybe has the range for 3 concerts.No soul,just a good cover, thats all

A Hugo link. Cool

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:25 pm
by StoneCold
[quote="Aaron"]And here is why ....


http://www.hugotunes.com/about_us.html

[/quote]

Thanks for the link. I've got that cd (I've got all his cds).

"Tell It To My Heart" from Time On Earth.

A great non-Journey Journey song.

Re: A Hugo link. Cool

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:26 pm
by Aaron
Dit-fuckin-to SC, Dit-fuckin-to ...


StoneCold wrote:
Aaron wrote:And here is why ....


http://www.hugotunes.com/about_us.html



Thanks for the link. I've got that cd (I've got all his cds).

"Tell It To My Heart" from Time On Earth.

A great non-Journey Journey song.

Re: Arnel singing faithfully 1/2 step higher ?!?!?!?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:12 am
by Wheels Of Fyre
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Aaron wrote:I can only speculate on explanation if it's a half step up. IF Arnel has trouble with the transition from his normal voice to falsetto, he may be stepping it up a half step to ensure he doesn't have transition issues from normal to falsetto voice. That's the only reason I can think of. Dude, you're a musician and vocalist if I remember right. What do you think? You probably know more than I do!

Liquid_Drummer wrote:Why the hell did they do this ? Hard enough as it is.... Hmm Someone please shoot the fucking guitar player !!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_XvWeZF ... ed&search=


the song is in F here.. which the notes could be played in the realitive Dm..im just guessing that it would be easier for the piano player to KEY it in on his keyboard.. OR the guitar player could play the solo in Dm instead of C#m,, realitive speaking ,, of course.. :shock: 8)

OR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that little waltz intro they did was in Fmaj,, AND the dang keyboard player started the song in the WRONG KEY... after the first .."faithfully....." the guitar player very timidly strikes that first note,, and then BLOWS the solo.... because hes got the solo memorized in Emaj,, and , on the fly, is trying to transpose it into Fmaj.. its just a half step difference, but a pain in the neck in front of people ect......notice Arns face trying to sing that ending ,, . stinking keyboard players...... :wink:


Wowzers!