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So..its 1982

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:47 am
by Gordon from Edinburgh
And i switched by pure chance to a TV show on the bbc called late nite in concert - to see what this "up and coming" american band were like - it was four songs taken from the Houston gig......at the time my biggest loves were ac/dc and Rainbow. I nearly fell off my seat when i heard this un fuckin believable singer - and Christ! That bloke is playing some serious guitar!

Life has never been the same since........ - Thank God i saw that damn show - watchin it now just transports me - NOBODY and i mean NOBODY could touch them back then..........

Re: So..its 1982

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:07 am
by Deb
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:- NOBODY and i mean NOBODY could touch them back then..........


I agree, and at that time I don't think we actually realized just how good they were. :shock: The performance I notice it the most in, is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuxleqU0iDg

Not only is Perry's passionate delivery of this song AMAZING, but IMO it showcases all of their talents together. The collective talent put together on that stage, to me looking back on it, is just staggering!

Re: So..its 1982

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:11 am
by Gordon from Edinburgh
Deb wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:- NOBODY and i mean NOBODY could touch them back then..........


I agree, and at that time I don't think we actually realized just how good they were. :shock: The performance I notice it the most in, is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuxleqU0iDg

Not only is Perry's passionate delivery of this song AMAZING, but IMO it showcases all of their talents together. The collective talent put together on that stage, to me looking back on it, is just staggering!



Thats weird - i was gonna mention that song - still sends shivers down my spine - you were right too - we took them for granted while they were at the top - only now have a lot of other people been forced to re-consider - i think thats why the songs keep appearing in movies/tv shows - because they were made to last like all true classics..........

Re: So..its 1982

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:16 am
by Deb
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
Deb wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:- NOBODY and i mean NOBODY could touch them back then..........


I agree, and at that time I don't think we actually realized just how good they were. :shock: The performance I notice it the most in, is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuxleqU0iDg

Not only is Perry's passionate delivery of this song AMAZING, but IMO it showcases all of their talents together. The collective talent put together on that stage, to me looking back on it, is just staggering!



Thats weird - i was gonna mention that song - still sends shivers down my spine - you were right too - we took them for granted while they were at the top - only now have a lot of other people been forced to re-consider - i think thats why the songs keep appearing in movies/tv shows - because they were made to last like all true classics..........


I know, watching that you can see the man gave 150%, ya can't ask for more! :D

Re: So..its 1982

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:05 am
by SF-Dano
Deb wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
Deb wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:- NOBODY and i mean NOBODY could touch them back then..........


I agree, and at that time I don't think we actually realized just how good they were. :shock: The performance I notice it the most in, is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuxleqU0iDg

Not only is Perry's passionate delivery of this song AMAZING, but IMO it showcases all of their talents together. The collective talent put together on that stage, to me looking back on it, is just staggering!



Thats weird - i was gonna mention that song - still sends shivers down my spine - you were right too - we took them for granted while they were at the top - only now have a lot of other people been forced to re-consider - i think thats why the songs keep appearing in movies/tv shows - because they were made to last like all true classics..........


I know, watching that you can see the man gave 150%, ya can't ask for more! :D


The Man??? They all gave 150%. Can't we at least agree that back in the day, they were all very talented and entertaining musicians.

Re: So..its 1982

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:07 am
by Gordon from Edinburgh
The Man??? They all gave 150%. Can't we at least agree that back in the day, they were all very talented and entertaining musicians.[/quote]

No argument here mate - they were a fantastic band - they made it look so easy....

Re: So..its 1982

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:08 am
by Rick
SF-Dano wrote:
Deb wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
Deb wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:- NOBODY and i mean NOBODY could touch them back then..........


I agree, and at that time I don't think we actually realized just how good they were. :shock: The performance I notice it the most in, is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuxleqU0iDg

Not only is Perry's passionate delivery of this song AMAZING, but IMO it showcases all of their talents together. The collective talent put together on that stage, to me looking back on it, is just staggering!



Thats weird - i was gonna mention that song - still sends shivers down my spine - you were right too - we took them for granted while they were at the top - only now have a lot of other people been forced to re-consider - i think thats why the songs keep appearing in movies/tv shows - because they were made to last like all true classics..........


I know, watching that you can see the man gave 150%, ya can't ask for more! :D


The Man??? They all gave 150%. Can't we at least agree that back in the day, they were all very talented and entertaining musicians.


Yes sir, they put on the best concert I have ever been to. All of them made them great. I'm not real sure Valory gave 150% though. J/K, he was excellent as well.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:25 am
by NealIsGod
Yeah, as good as Captured is, the Houston show is as good as rock and roll gets, IMO.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:40 am
by Rick
NealIsGod wrote:Yeah, as good as Captured is, the Houston show is as good as rock and roll gets, IMO.


Absolutely. But I'm putting Captured on right now, it's such a great live show. I love the Rolie era.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:12 am
by knox
Perry was Superman during the Escape tour.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:15 am
by Rick
knox wrote:Perry was Superman during the Escape tour.


He was a monster. I think he felt the same way, and flexed his superman muscles, sometimes to a fault.

Re: So..its 1982

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:20 am
by donnaplease
Rick wrote:
SF-Dano wrote:
Deb wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
Deb wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:- NOBODY and i mean NOBODY could touch them back then..........


I agree, and at that time I don't think we actually realized just how good they were. :shock: The performance I notice it the most in, is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuxleqU0iDg

Not only is Perry's passionate delivery of this song AMAZING, but IMO it showcases all of their talents together. The collective talent put together on that stage, to me looking back on it, is just staggering!



Thats weird - i was gonna mention that song - still sends shivers down my spine - you were right too - we took them for granted while they were at the top - only now have a lot of other people been forced to re-consider - i think thats why the songs keep appearing in movies/tv shows - because they were made to last like all true classics..........


I know, watching that you can see the man gave 150%, ya can't ask for more! :D


The Man??? They all gave 150%. Can't we at least agree that back in the day, they were all very talented and entertaining musicians.


Yes sir, they put on the best concert I have ever been to. All of them made them great. I'm not real sure Valory gave 150% though. J/K, he was excellent as well.


My favorite song on that DVD was "Faithfully". They really knocked it outta the park!!! 8)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:21 am
by donnaplease
Just kidding... :twisted:

Re: So..its 1982

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:21 am
by Deb
SF-Dano wrote:
Deb wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
Deb wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:- NOBODY and i mean NOBODY could touch them back then..........


I agree, and at that time I don't think we actually realized just how good they were. :shock: The performance I notice it the most in, is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuxleqU0iDg

Not only is Perry's passionate delivery of this song AMAZING, but IMO it showcases all of their talents together. The collective talent put together on that stage, to me looking back on it, is just staggering!



Thats weird - i was gonna mention that song - still sends shivers down my spine - you were right too - we took them for granted while they were at the top - only now have a lot of other people been forced to re-consider - i think thats why the songs keep appearing in movies/tv shows - because they were made to last like all true classics..........


I know, watching that you can see the man gave 150%, ya can't ask for more! :D


The Man??? They all gave 150%. Can't we at least agree that back in the day, they were all very talented and entertaining musicians.


Agreed, and if you look at my post before this one above, I pretty much say the same thing. I was talking about the emotionally draining effort it takes on a frontman sometimes (especially in his case).

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:01 pm
by Saint John
From 81-83 this was the greatest band of any era, both technically and vocally.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:05 pm
by Gordon from Edinburgh
Saint John wrote:From 81-83 this was the greatest band of any era, both technically and vocally.


You nailed it in one sentence mate....

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:05 pm
by Gordon from Edinburgh
Saint John wrote:From 81-83 this was the greatest band of any era, both technically and vocally.


You nailed it in one sentence mate....

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:07 pm
by Matthew
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
Saint John wrote:From 81-83 this was the greatest band of any era, both technically and vocally.


You nailed it in one sentence mate....



Except he got the dates wrong. It should of course read: 81-86.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:46 pm
by conversationpc
Matthew wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
Saint John wrote:From 81-83 this was the greatest band of any era, both technically and vocally.


You nailed it in one sentence mate....



Except he got the dates wrong. It should of course read: 81-86.


More like 78-86, even though ROR was a downhill slide comparably.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:52 pm
by Matthew
conversationpc wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
Saint John wrote:From 81-83 this was the greatest band of any era, both technically and vocally.


You nailed it in one sentence mate....



Except he got the dates wrong. It should of course read: 81-86.


More like 78-86, even though ROR was a downhill slide comparably.


And even though 78-81 was an uphill approach.....

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:11 am
by Gordon from Edinburgh
Matthew wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
Saint John wrote:From 81-83 this was the greatest band of any era, both technically and vocally.


You nailed it in one sentence mate....



Except he got the dates wrong. It should of course read: 81-86.


More like 78-86, even though ROR was a downhill slide comparably.


And even though 78-81 was an uphill approach.....


Matthew, to go off topic - i like your AV - 90125 is one of my permanent top ten albums - i think YES with Rabin were a much better band - he made them rock but they still wrote complex creative pieces - he is a genius. And Rick Wakeman rates him very highly.....i often wonder how ASIA woulda sounded with Rabin in there - better probably....

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:22 am
by Matthew
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
Matthew wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
Saint John wrote:From 81-83 this was the greatest band of any era, both technically and vocally.


You nailed it in one sentence mate....



Except he got the dates wrong. It should of course read: 81-86.


More like 78-86, even though ROR was a downhill slide comparably.


And even though 78-81 was an uphill approach.....


Matthew, to go off topic - i like your AV - 90125 is one of my permanent top ten albums - i think YES with Rabin were a much better band - he made them rock but they still wrote complex creative pieces - he is a genius. And Rick Wakeman rates him very highly.....i often wonder how ASIA woulda sounded with Rabin in there - better probably....



Cheers Gordon. I totally agree that he's a genius - and together with Trevor Horn he oversaw the most dazzling and successful comebacks any band has ever pulled off, I reckon. For me Big Generator and Talk are very nearly as good as 90125 and are even up there with the classics from the early 1970s.

By the way...the avatar is actually the cover for a compilation of Trevor Rabin's demos for that album and it's called 90124. Have you heard it?

Shame Wakeman and Rabin never got a chance to work together. And that Rabin no longer records rock music too. Just found out the other day that he wrote the soundtrack for Snakes On a Plane...not perhaps his finest hour....

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:27 am
by Gordon from Edinburgh
Cheers Gordon. I totally agree that he's a genius - and together with Trevor Horn he oversaw the most dazzling and successful comebacks any band has ever pulled off, I reckon. For me Big Generator and Talk are very nearly as good as 90125 and even the classics from the early 1970s.

By the way...the avatar is actually the cover for a compilation of Trevor Rabin's demos for that album and it's called 90124. Have you heard it?

Shame Wakeman and Rabin never got a chance to work together. And that Rabin no longer records rock music too. Just found out the other day that he wrote the soundtrack for Snakes On a Plane...not perhaps his finest hour....[/quote]

I've got it mate - and all the YES albums with Rabin - and most of the others - yeah these days he is contracted to Bruckheimer - may have that name slightly wrong - and all he does are movies - must be very lucrative but i wish he would put a band together and tour. His early solo albums are good too. Wakeman and Rabin were on UNION but i am not sure if they were ever in the studio at the same time - but Wakeman said he was blown away by the guy live in concert and had wanted to record with him but it never happened. Do you ever listen to Wakeman on Planet Rock? He is a good laugh and plays some good stuff - he was saying the other nite how much he loves Speed King by Deep Purple - very cool.....

Re: So..its 1982

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:49 am
by heardonthestreet
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:And i switched by pure chance to a TV show on the bbc called late nite in concert - to see what this "up and coming" american band were like - it was four songs taken from the Houston gig......at the time my biggest loves were ac/dc and Rainbow. I nearly fell off my seat when i heard this un fuckin believable singer - and Christ! That bloke is playing some serious guitar!

Life has never been the same since........ - Thank God i saw that damn show - watchin it now just transports me - NOBODY and i mean NOBODY could touch them back then..........





Is it any wonder that so many of us are still stuck back there? I have attended everything that Journey has had to offer since, just to keep up with them, but they are stuck in a time capsule, imo.

Re: So..its 1982

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:09 am
by NealIsGod
heardonthestreet wrote:they are stuck in a time capsule, imo.


The one you keep in your crawlspace, next to your clown suit?

Re: So..its 1982

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:32 am
by heardonthestreet
NealIsGod wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote:they are stuck in a time capsule, imo.


The one you keep in your crawlspace, next to your clown suit?



You're the one who is an authority on clowns, NEALisgod! :lol: :lol:

Re: So..its 1982

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:34 am
by conversationpc
heardonthestreet wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote:they are stuck in a time capsule, imo.


The one you keep in your crawlspace, next to your clown suit?



You're the one who is an authority on clowns, NEALisgod! :lol: :lol:


I love Neal as a player but I've got to hand it to you...That was funny. :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:19 am
by Matthew
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:I've got it mate - and all the YES albums with Rabin - and most of the others - yeah these days he is contracted to Bruckheimer - may have that name slightly wrong - and all he does are movies - must be very lucrative but i wish he would put a band together and tour. His early solo albums are good too. Wakeman and Rabin were on UNION but i am not sure if they were ever in the studio at the same time - but Wakeman said he was blown away by the guy live in concert and had wanted to record with him but it never happened. Do you ever listen to Wakeman on Planet Rock? He is a good laugh and plays some good stuff - he was saying the other nite how much he loves Speed King by Deep Purple - very cool.....


It's great to meet someone who understands the brilliance of the Rabin era. I usually have to talk to stick in the mud Yes fans like Dave who still want songs about trolls and pixies.

I didn't know that Rabin was actually under contract to Bruckheimer. That explains a lot actually why I keep seeing his name associated with all these dodgy popcorn movies - and why his soundtracks sound a bit formulaic and disappointing given the brilliance of his work in Yes. Must be frustrating for the guy in a way - despite the lorry loads of cash he must be making.

No, I don't think Rabin and Wakeman were in the same studio for Union- which kind of sums up the backward looking nature of that album. Also, there was some clash of management companies or something like that.

I've never heard of Planet Rock. Is it an internet radio station?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:40 am
by conversationpc
Matthew wrote:It's great to meet someone who understands the brilliance of the Rabin era. I usually have to talk to stick in the mud Yes fans like Dave who still want songs about trolls and pixies.


I'm not a big fan of Jon Anderson's lyrics. Musically, though, Yes from 1969 through 1981 was far more interesting for me than the Rabin era. "90125" is a great album and I love "Talk" also. I can't stand "Big Generator", though.

Re: So..its 1982

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:48 am
by Deb
heardonthestreet wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote:they are stuck in a time capsule, imo.


The one you keep in your crawlspace, next to your clown suit?



You're the one who is an authority on clowns, NEALisgod! :lol: :lol:


Image LOL, she got ya on that one Niggy. :lol: