MR

its 1996 and your the manager of journey.the album is just about to be completed.you have the benefit of knowing what is about to happen but you cannot say anything.what would you do to change the course that things are about to take?

do you somehow convince the band they are fixing to be waiting again for a while and be patient?


it would've been cool to see them get back together and tour for trial and then record another album.by now they would've still had steve and been able to do a final tour.


if they all somehow agree and things went good i wonder how much different things might've been.....

I really didn't have a problem with them moving on...they waited 2 years and that was long enough. HOWEVER, replacing Steve Perry with a guy that was forced out of the business due to lack of interest is still mind boggling to this day. They needed a "name" or someone young like Jason Kelty.

mikemarrs wrote:its 1996 and your the manager of journey.the album is just about to be completed.you have the benefit of knowing what is about to happen but you cannot say anything.what would you do to change the course that things are about to take?

do you somehow convince the band they are fixing to be waiting again for a while and be patient?


it would've been cool to see them get back together and tour for trial and then record another album.by now they would've still had steve and been able to do a final tour.


if they all somehow agree and things went good i wonder how much different things might've been.....

Well if you can't say anything, there's not much you can do besides go with Perry to Hawaii and get him too drunk to go hiking.

"do you somehow convince the band they are fixing to be waiting again for a while and be patient?"

Other bands have waited longer. I don't feel that Perry would have asked them to "Do whatever you have to do, but leave Journey alone."....If he didn't feel that they would get back to it, all in good time. After what happened to Augeri's vocals, it's easier to understand why a vocalist needs time off to heal from whatever. His voice is his irreplacable instrument. He also told Jon, "There's no going back," when Jon said that they were going on without him. To me this would mean that he planned on going back if they would wait.

I would liquidate what I had tied up in the band and proceed to live out my days fat and sassy.

...oh wait -- that sounds familiar.

Any manager KNOWS his band. As manager of Journey, I would have known Steven couldn't go on any longer and thus called up Schon and Princess and said look, Steve is done...we either get a name singer and continue, or we dissolve this.

Did Herbie not do this?

Case closed. There was nothing really a manager could do if Steve was done, and yes, he was, obviously. oh yeah, I would have fired that fuckin keyboardist yesterday, flown Greg Fuckin Rolie up from his Goddamned Asparagus festivals in bumfuck desert town, wherever, and put the octane back into this band.

I kill them all violently except for Perry. Then I focus on remastering the back catalog. Same result in the end.

mikemarrs wrote:its 1996 and your the manager of journey.the album is just about to be completed.you have the benefit of knowing what is about to happen but you cannot say anything.what would you do to change the course that things are about to take?

Fire Steve Perry, quit my job and tell them to hire Herbie back.

heardonthestreet wrote:"do you somehow convince the band they are fixing to be waiting again for a while and be patient?"

Other bands have waited longer. I don't feel that Perry would have asked them to "Do whatever you have to do, but leave Journey alone."....If he didn't feel that they would get back to it, all in good time.

"all in good time" seems to have COMPLETELY different meaning to Steve Perry, his fans, and Journey and their fans. The time between ROR and TBF was far more then should be tolerated. To ask the band to do that again - wait indefinitely, until moving on without Perry suddenly makes in a "good time" - is saying you are no longer a part of the band and need to be fired.

Monker wrote:

heardonthestreet wrote:"do you somehow convince the band they are fixing to be waiting again for a while and be patient?"

Other bands have waited longer. I don't feel that Perry would have asked them to "Do whatever you have to do, but leave Journey alone."....If he didn't feel that they would get back to it, all in good time.

"all in good time" seems to have COMPLETELY different meaning to Steve Perry, his fans, and Journey and their fans. The time between ROR and TBF was far more then should be tolerated. To ask the band to do that again - wait indefinitely, until moving on without Perry suddenly makes in a "good time" - is saying you are no longer a part of the band and need to be fired.

Oh and that worked so well for them didn't it? I think(though this could be one of those rare occasions when I'm wrong) the point of this thread was to ask what we would have done that might have been a little more successful than the decision that they made.

I'll assume that would mean that I would managing them in 1986 as well. If so, I'd have given Perry two years to get unburned, deal with his issues, and get on with it. 1988 would have came along, Perry would have been fired, Chalfant would be fronting Journey and they would not be a nostalgia act today. They would be relavent.

If it was 1996, I would have given Perry the time the band did, then fired him and hired Hugo or Chalftant to replace him. The end result would have been the same as above.

I would have told them to do whatever they wanted, with whomever they wanted but leave Journey alone.