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Jeff Scott Soto

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:41 am
by AR
Allegedly Neal Schon was either reading or posting here under an alias. Whether that's true or not, if you are........

How does it feel to know that you fucked up royally? How does it feel to have most of your fanbase actually HATE you?

Just curious. Thanks for your time. Tell Frig I said "hi".

The Artist

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:25 am
by JH'sTXfan
You've got Little Red Corvette stuck in my head. :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:32 am
by Rhiannon
JH'sTXfan wrote:You've got Little Red Corvette stuck in my head. :lol:


I started humming "Purple Rain" :lol:


Image

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:35 am
by chf34jmac
Speaking of Prince, maybe the douche twins could hire him as singer. Probably one of the most musically creative fuckers of the last twenty years. The again he's a hell of a guitar player as well, might scare the dwarf.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:38 am
by JH'sTXfan
Didn't Prince just release some new music?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:43 am
by Clasicrockldy
chf34jmac wrote:Speaking of Prince, maybe the douche twins could hire him as singer. Probably one of the most musically creative fuckers of the last twenty years. The again he's a hell of a guitar player as well, might scare the dwarf.


Replace the dwarf with a creative dwarf? Not a bad idea........ :D

Re: Jeff Scott Soto

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:59 am
by Rockindeano
The Artist wrote:How does it feel to know that you fucked up royally? How does it feel to have most of your fanbase actually HATE you?


The thing is, most of the fan base doesn't even know what the Hell happened.

Look, I was in a position last year when I had some pretty good access to Neal and the band, and I have to tell you, it was fucking great. Neal is the coolest guy on the planet, when he is on your side and vice versa, and it would kill me to see people bash him for the sake of bashing him. I was able to things with him and two other band members that few have been able to do, and I will always remember that. However, I must say that it has all been tarnished because of the way Jeff was treated and how it played out.

Honestly, I do not think there would have been a problem at all, had Neal just called Jeff and spoke his mind, whatever the reason, we would still rally around Journey and I know Jeff would be ok with that, had they just told him. Hell, I had told Neal, under the LocknLoad alias, in fact begged him, to make the call dude, for I personally don't think it's too late to repair the ship.

Someone the other day, forgive my forgetfulness, said the reason most of us here are bitter, is the fact that they have met Jeff and have seen what a quality human being he is, and that is the reason for the disdain. I second that fully.

Sorry for the rant, but I felt compelled to chime in. For those of you who blame me for this Board's downfall or even the downfall of Journey, I gotta tell you, it's amusing to think that a guy with some bootlegs and a memorized ear for a certain DVD release, was able to affect a major change in a once great band. Well, I also find it funny that the very same people today who despise me, were sending me "Go Dean" or "Trash em Deano" emails once TG was in category 5 mode. I say fuck you to all those Perry obsessed Loons who are so centre minded that they can't see their own shadows.

PS- I personally think calling Neal dwarf names is a bit childish. That dude can flatout play....He is a musical genius. Do you folks know Schon can't even read music? My point is, like Carol said, question his character, but not his talents. Now Friga, she is a different book. Take a piss all over her if you want.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:07 am
by chf34jmac
Jesus Christ this forum has really lost it's luster when guys like Deano and Saint John are both calmer, more respectful and dare I say backpeddling a tad from what were once some of the best tirades I have ever witnessed. Like so many others, maybe it's time I go back to just lurking.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:11 am
by Rockindeano
chf34jmac wrote:Jesus Christ this forum has really lost it's luster when guys like Deano and Saint John are both calmer, more respectful and dare I say backpeddling a tad from what were once some of the best tirades I have ever witnessed. Like so many others, maybe it's time I go back to just lurking.


Don't despair Chiefy...I have a HUGE tirade building, but Andrew has asked for calm this weekend. I am all about appeasing that cool motherfucker.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:17 am
by chf34jmac
I look forward to the tirade you got coming. That alone does not change my recent feelings about the loss of luster or spark that was once here. There isn't anyone or anything from Journey or the fandom remotely fun to beat on. No newbies trying to rehash old wounds needing a verbal beating, no idiots like Manarocks, that Venezuelan guy, Reardon, or any of them left. It's actually kind of boring rehashing the same old I hate the GOP or I hate the Dems shit day in and day out. I need a dust up every now and again to keep me motivated and they just aren't happening anymore.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:18 am
by Moon Beam
chf34jmac wrote:Jesus Christ this forum has really lost it's luster when guys like Deano and Saint John are both calmer, more respectful and dare I say backpeddling a tad from what were once some of the best tirades I have ever witnessed. Like so many others, maybe it's time I go back to just lurking.



I just got politely slapped from another member for calling a "Negative Only" poster
and asshole...............
I say in ten years time it will be an offence to look someone in the eyes and we'll all
be walking around sporting men in black shades. :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:28 am
by Rhiannon
Moon Beam wrote:I say in ten years time it will be an offence to look someone in the eyes and we'll all
be walking around sporting men in black shades. :lol:


Don't go prophesizin'... you'll be real bittersweet if in 10 years that's true.

Hey Gerene, YOU ASSHOLE! :lol: :wink:

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:30 am
by Moon Beam
Blue Radio Girl wrote:
Moon Beam wrote:I say in ten years time it will be an offence to look someone in the eyes and we'll all
be walking around sporting men in black shades. :lol:


Don't go prophesizin'... you'll be real bittersweet if in 10 years that's true.

Hey Gerene, YOU ASSHOLE! :lol: :wink:




:lol: Now see, I just laugh at it. :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:37 am
by Rhiannon
Moon Beam wrote:
Blue Radio Girl wrote:Hey Gerene, YOU ASSHOLE! :lol: :wink:




:lol: Now see, I just laugh at it. :lol:


Cause you're cool. DUH. :twisted:

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:41 am
by CatEyes
Moon Beam wrote:
chf34jmac wrote:Jesus Christ this forum has really lost it's luster when guys like Deano and Saint John are both calmer, more respectful and dare I say backpeddling a tad from what were once some of the best tirades I have ever witnessed. Like so many others, maybe it's time I go back to just lurking.



I just got politely slapped from another member for calling a "Negative Only" poster
and asshole...............


Hey Moon beam ....

I did not politely slap you .... that was not my intent at all ....... I was kidding and trying to keep the thread in the good humour in which it was intended, without it becoming just one more fucking bitch-slap fest........ and most days, that is not easy around here.

Cat

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:52 am
by Moon Beam
CatEyes wrote:
Moon Beam wrote:

I just got politely slapped from another member for calling a "Negative Only" poster
and asshole...............


Hey Moon beam ....

I did not politely slap you .... that was not my intent at all ....... I was kidding and trying to keep the thread in the good humour in which it was intended, without it becoming just one more fucking bitch-slap fest........ and most days, that is not easy around here.

Cat



I know Cat and I'm sorry if you don't argee with my description of your
prior post in previous thread.....I to am funnin, did I tell ya I like to play around with words?. :lol: :wink:
Not often will you find the likes of me or many others slinging some mud
but it does happen on occasion......I almost always take the belly shake, light load route.
I understood immediately and I'm glad that your on Andrew's side , as I am.
Hope your enjoying your day as much as I am.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:59 am
by larryfromnextdoor
catfight !!!!! :twisted: :twisted:

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:59 am
by CatEyes
larryfromnextdoor wrote:catfight !!!!! :twisted: :twisted:


Oh you wish!!!

Why is it men get so excited over the thought of women fighting - especially in various substances such as
mud or jello or beer??? :twisted:

Sorry to disappoint - guess it's back to TIVO!!!

Cat

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:09 am
by AR
If AR were here, he'd fan the flames of a good cat fight. I find that disgusting though and am happy you both found common ground.

:D

Re: Jeff Scott Soto

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:11 am
by Andrew
The Artist wrote:Allegedly Neal Schon was either reading or posting here under an alias. Whether that's true or not, if you are........

How does it feel to know that you fucked up royally? How does it feel to have most of your fanbase actually HATE you?

Just curious. Thanks for your time. Tell Frig I said "hi".

The Artist


Not helpful. Please re-consider what you are posting here.

Re: Jeff Scott Soto

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:14 am
by AR
Andrew wrote:
The Artist wrote:Allegedly Neal Schon was either reading or posting here under an alias. Whether that's true or not, if you are........

How does it feel to know that you fucked up royally? How does it feel to have most of your fanbase actually HATE you?

Just curious. Thanks for your time. Tell Frig I said "hi".

The Artist


Not helpful. Please re-consider what you are posting here.


DAMNIT, even The Artist can't catch a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I see why AR left. Pretty honest and innocent post. Many feel this way. How the hell is this a prob bro?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:15 am
by Moon Beam
CatEyes wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:catfight !!!!! :twisted: :twisted:


Oh you wish!!!

Why is it men get so excited over the thought of women fighting



It's the thought of two females coming in contact with, in any way shape or form
on each others skin that ignights em...at least that is how I understand it.
Drives em madly, ahhhhh yet another tool to toil em with. :lol: :twisted:

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:18 am
by AR
Ok, back into my coffin. Not trying to give anyone any grief. Guess I just don't mesh here anymore. No biggie.

Delete me guys.

AR

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:18 am
by CatEyes
Moon Beam wrote:Drives em madly, ahhhhh yet another tool to toil em with. :lol: :twisted:


ahhh, yes....... the ever hopeful possibility of a nipple shot!!!

This explains a lot.

Thanks Moonie :wink:

Cat

Re: Jeff Scott Soto

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:54 am
by strangegrey
Rockindeano wrote:PS- I personally think calling Neal dwarf names is a bit childish. That dude can flatout play....He is a musical genius. Do you folks know Schon can't even read music? My point is, like Carol said, question his character, but not his talents. Now Friga, she is a different book. Take a piss all over her if you want.


Deano, respectfully, I think Neal's character is really what everything is born out of. Fuck man...as a guitarist, I worship the man...he's gifted beyond anything I could ever dream of becoming as a guitarist. However, it's hard for me seperate that these days, when he literally fucks up everything he gets involved in. I've seen him be an utter douchebag and I've seen him be utterly cool to fans. I'm sure you have as well, more so than most (including myself) over the past 4 years.

Re: Jeff Scott Soto

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:09 am
by zino
Rockindeano wrote:
The Artist wrote:How does it feel to know that you fucked up royally? How does it feel to have most of your fanbase actually HATE you?


The thing is, most of the fan base doesn't even know what the Hell happened.

Look, I was in a position last year when I had some pretty good access to Neal and the band, and I have to tell you, it was fucking great. Neal is the coolest guy on the planet, when he is on your side and vice versa, and it would kill me to see people bash him for the sake of bashing him. I was able to things with him and two other band members that few have been able to do, and I will always remember that. However, I must say that it has all been tarnished because of the way Jeff was treated and how it played out.

Honestly, I do not think there would have been a problem at all, had Neal just called Jeff and spoke his mind, whatever the reason, we would still rally around Journey and I know Jeff would be ok with that, had they just told him. Hell, I had told Neal, under the LocknLoad alias, in fact begged him, to make the call dude, for I personally don't think it's too late to repair the ship.

Someone the other day, forgive my forgetfulness, said the reason most of us here are bitter, is the fact that they have met Jeff and have seen what a quality human being he is, and that is the reason for the disdain. I second that fully.

Sorry for the rant, but I felt compelled to chime in. For those of you who blame me for this Board's downfall or even the downfall of Journey, I gotta tell you, it's amusing to think that a guy with some bootlegs and a memorized ear for a certain DVD release, was able to affect a major change in a once great band. Well, I also find it funny that the very same people today who despise me, were sending me "Go Dean" or "Trash em Deano" emails once TG was in category 5 mode. I say fuck you to all those Perry obsessed Loons who are so centre minded that they can't see their own shadows.

PS- I personally think calling Neal dwarf names is a bit childish. That dude can flatout play....He is a musical genius. Do you folks know Schon can't even read music? My point is, like Carol said, question his character, but not his talents. Now Friga, she is a different book. Take a piss all over her if you want.


This is very well said. If I made add fans from this board invested thier time and $$ into this band last year once JSS jumped in. The people on this board were excited over the band as the reviews kept pouring in, we all waited for Andrews big Journey feature,and we invested more of our time..or should I say Precious Time. When you mess with peoples invested time I think that really cuts deep. We as fans were lead in one direction and next think you now we were all blindsided ( JSS included). We all thought the bans was going in one direction and next thing you know its going the other way. Which way its going know we don't know !!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:13 pm
by larocque6689
Rockindeano wrote:Don't despair Chiefy...I have a HUGE tirade building, but Andrew has asked for calm this weekend. I am all about appeasing that cool motherfucker.


I can't wait!

Re: Jeff Scott Soto

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:54 pm
by (Crazy)Dulce Lady
Rockindeano wrote:
The Artist wrote:How does it feel to know that you fucked up royally? How does it feel to have most of your fanbase actually HATE you?


The thing is, most of the fan base doesn't even know what the Hell happened.

Look, I was in a position last year when I had some pretty good access to Neal and the band, and I have to tell you, it was fucking great. Neal is the coolest guy on the planet, when he is on your side and vice versa, and it would kill me to see people bash him for the sake of bashing him. I was able to things with him and two other band members that few have been able to do, and I will always remember that. However, I must say that it has all been tarnished because of the way Jeff was treated and how it played out.

Honestly, I do not think there would have been a problem at all, had Neal just called Jeff and spoke his mind, whatever the reason, we would still rally around Journey and I know Jeff would be ok with that, had they just told him. Hell, I had told Neal, under the LocknLoad alias, in fact begged him, to make the call dude, for I personally don't think it's too late to repair the ship.

Someone the other day, forgive my forgetfulness, said the reason most of us here are bitter, is the fact that they have met Jeff and have seen what a quality human being he is, and that is the reason for the disdain. I second that fully.

Sorry for the rant, but I felt compelled to chime in. For those of you who blame me for this Board's downfall or even the downfall of Journey, I gotta tell you, it's amusing to think that a guy with some bootlegs and a memorized ear for a certain DVD release, was able to affect a major change in a once great band. Well, I also find it funny that the very same people today who despise me, were sending me "Go Dean" or "Trash em Deano" emails once TG was in category 5 mode. I say fuck you to all those Perry obsessed Loons who are so centre minded that they can't see their own shadows.

PS- I personally think calling Neal dwarf names is a bit childish. That dude can flatout play....He is a musical genius. Do you folks know Schon can't even read music? My point is, like Carol said, question his character, but not his talents. Now Friga, she is a different book. Take a piss all over her if you want.


actually, Jonathan is a very gifted performer and song writer, being degreed as such from a music conservatory. Chicago I think? not my style, however, but that doesn't diminish his level of talent. He brought Journey into the pop forum and I have never quite come on board with that. OPEN ARMS---uh, no. miles and miles away from Kohutek. I was hoping beyond hope that Jeff could take Journey back to where it belongs--rockin hard. That is no secret, I'm sure you all know that about me. :)

again, JMHO.

Re: Jeff Scott Soto

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:57 pm
by Rhiannon
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:Jonathan is a very gifted performer and song writer


His songs are all predictable and safe.

Re: Jeff Scott Soto

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:01 pm
by (Crazy)Dulce Lady
Blue Radio Girl wrote:
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:Jonathan is a very gifted performer and song writer


His songs are all predictable and safe.


exactly. and straight out of the 60's pop vein.
:?