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Was a Reunion tour offered?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:13 pm
by bionic
Much like Black Sabbath,Van Halen,Kiss and now Led Zeppelin promoters are always offering bands money to reform classic line ups.
Makes you wonder if this offer has been put to Journey as of recent,now i am damn sure that if it was Neal And Jon would jump at the chance to regain some cred.Ross probably does not care as long as he gets paid and can pull stupid faces he is happy!
So i can only assume that Perry has decided for whatever reason that this is not going to happen,we all know how much Perry cares about the name(Dont crack the Stone) so for him to not return and save the bands arses is indeed a sad time for this ONCE great band. :(

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:10 pm
by Andrew
The band would jump on Perry returning in a heartbeat. Steve Perry however, does not want to go down that road.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:35 pm
by Rockindeano
Andrew wrote:The band would jump on Perry returning in a heartbeat. Steve Perry however, does not want to go down that road.


Can you blame him?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:40 pm
by bionic
Andrew wrote:The band would jump on Perry returning in a heartbeat. Steve Perry however, does not want to go down that road.


I know but to save the name of Journey its the only way now and that means its time up for the band :cry:

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:46 pm
by mikemarrs
i wonder one thing.if perry was offered an insane amount of money like about 20 or 30 million would he do it one final time.when kiss reformed on the reunion tour there were reports that stanley and simmons pocketed 30 or 35 apiece just on that tour.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:35 pm
by bionic
mikemarrs wrote:i wonder one thing.if perry was offered an insane amount of money like about 20 or 30 million would he do it one final time.when kiss reformed on the reunion tour there were reports that stanley and simmons pocketed 30 or 35 apiece just on that tour.


Money talks,but he has to be able to pull off some stunning vocals from his past,as much as he would love to bring Journey to a happy end he has to be able do the songs of old justice and that is were the answer lies i belive 8)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:12 am
by strangegrey
mikemarrs wrote:i wonder one thing.if perry was offered an insane amount of money like about 20 or 30 million would he do it one final time.when kiss reformed on the reunion tour there were reports that stanley and simmons pocketed 30 or 35 apiece just on that tour.


In all seriousness, Perry doesn't need a red cent. He's set for life....literally millions in the bank. I don't think money *could* motivate him. There used to be jokes within the journey camp on how there's a handful of checks (you know, the cut he takes from everything Journey does) that Nomota has sent to Perry....that Perry hasn't even bothered cashing. He's just got em piled up on his kitchen pass-through or in a draw in his office....If he doesn't even cash the checks Journey sends him, why would a significant increase in the value of those checks make an ounce of difference.

He doesn't have 5 alimony checks to sign every month and reportedly lives within his means.....he doesn't take the mere 100,000 dollar merch check that they get at the end of a tour and disappear, blowing through the check in 3 months....on various things us average folks don't need or shouldn't buy.

I'm not going to pretend to know what motives Perry these days...and anyone else that posts on this board, hasn't the foggiest either....because no one, including certain people here that have the inside track to Perry's hall of mirrors, has been able to satisfactorily explain Perry's reasons for what he's done in the past.

Put it this way...if I were Perry....and if money weren't a deciding factor (like it isn't with him), I wouldn't bother returning to Journey at this point EITHER. Why would I subject myself to the bullshit that constantly surrounds Friga....or have to deal with the Napoleonic complex that Neal has....or be subject to misguidance at the hands of Irving Assoff??!

And last, but certainly not least, by any stretch....why would I resurface...only to embolden and drudge up the most psycopathic, obsessive/compuslive, intrusive fans in the world. Face it, Journey fans (specifically Loons) are fucked up people. Perry hasn't been seen in public (in a musical context, forget that White Sox bullshit) for over 10 years....and still Loons raise the man up on some angelic pedastal....desperate to see the return of the messiah....embarassing *real* Journey fans for the past decade with their unparalleled obsessiveness. Why on earth would Perry return to bring all of these kooks out of the woodwork.

For crying out loud.....Perry's been gone from Journey for 11 years, 10 years before that, also gone.....and only now, the loon factor has dropped to a level that only gives me a headache every other time I read a fucking Journey board. Holy Shit, can some of you ( that aren't loon psychopaths) imagine what would happen if Perry came back and said "We're going on tour!"......This place, my fucking board, The google Joey Reardon express and countless other web forums with explode with an idiocy that would have been unmatched since the french revolution.....anything Journey would be unbearable!

Christ, I'm getting sick to my stomach even thinking about it....

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:33 am
by heardonthestreet
strangegrey wrote:
mikemarrs wrote:i wonder one thing.if perry was offered an insane amount of money like about 20 or 30 million would he do it one final time.when kiss reformed on the reunion tour there were reports that stanley and simmons pocketed 30 or 35 apiece just on that tour.


In all seriousness, Perry doesn't need a red cent. He's set for life....literally millions in the bank. I don't think money *could* motivate him. There used to be jokes within the journey camp on how there's a handful of checks (you know, the cut he takes from everything Journey does) that Nomota has sent to Perry....that Perry hasn't even bothered cashing. He's just got em piled up on his kitchen pass-through or in a draw in his office....If he doesn't even cash the checks Journey sends him, why would a significant increase in the value of those checks make an ounce of difference.

He doesn't have 5 alimony checks to sign every month and reportedly lives within his means.....he doesn't take the mere 100,000 dollar merch check that they get at the end of a tour and disappear, blowing through the check in 3 months....on various things us average folks don't need or shouldn't buy.

I'm not going to pretend to know what motives Perry these days...and anyone else that posts on this board, hasn't the foggiest either....because no one, including certain people here that have the inside track to Perry's hall of mirrors, has been able to satisfactorily explain Perry's reasons for what he's done in the past.

Put it this way...if I were Perry....and if money weren't a deciding factor (like it isn't with him), I wouldn't bother returning to Journey at this point EITHER. Why would I subject myself to the bullshit that constantly surrounds Friga....or have to deal with the Napoleonic complex that Neal has....or be subject to misguidance at the hands of Irving Assoff??!

And last, but certainly not least, by any stretch....why would I resurface...only to embolden and drudge up the most psycopathic, obsessive/compuslive, intrusive fans in the world. Face it, Journey fans (specifically Loons) are fucked up people. Perry hasn't been seen in public (in a musical context, forget that White Sox bullshit) for over 10 years....and still Loons raise the man up on some angelic pedastal....desperate to see the return of the messiah....embarassing *real* Journey fans for the past decade with their unparalleled obsessiveness. Why on earth would Perry return to bring all of these kooks out of the woodwork.

For crying out loud.....Perry's been gone from Journey for 11 years, 10 years before that, also gone.....and only now, the loon factor has dropped to a level that only gives me a headache every other time I read a fucking Journey board. Holy Shit, can some of you ( that aren't loon psychopaths) imagine what would happen if Perry came back and said "We're going on tour!"......This place, my fucking board, The google Joey Reardon express and countless other web forums with explode with an idiocy that would have been unmatched since the french revolution.....anything Journey would be unbearable!

Christ, I'm getting sick to my stomach even thinking about it....




Yeah! Wouldn't it be grand.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:40 am
by ohsherrie
Between the disgrace that Neal and Jon have made of the Journey name and the way the people on the Journey messageboards have tried for the last 10 years to smear Perry's name, why the hell would he want to offer himself up in sacrifice?

It's got to be a bit of a mixed message that he's getting from the "fans" to say the least. It's like "We hate you you sonofabitch. We think your a liar and a manipulative, egotistical bastard. Now why the fuck won't you sing for us?" :roll:

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:58 am
by heardonthestreet
ohsherrie wrote:Between the disgrace that Neal and Jon have made of the Journey name and the way the people on the Journey messageboards have tried for the last 10 years to smear Perry's name, why the hell would he want to offer himself up in sacrifice?

It's got to be a bit of a mixed message that he's getting from the "fans" say the least. It's like "We hate you you sonofabitch. We think your a liar and a manipulative, egotistical bastard. Now why the fuck won't you sing for us?" :roll:





I really think that he knows that it's just a very few forums on the net that put him down, Sherrie. He still gets so much recognition and regard from his peers and the public, even without performing, that he must know he is held in high regard and maybe more so since his efforts have withstood the test of time.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:04 am
by ohsherrie
heardonthestreet wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:Between the disgrace that Neal and Jon have made of the Journey name and the way the people on the Journey messageboards have tried for the last 10 years to smear Perry's name, why the hell would he want to offer himself up in sacrifice?

It's got to be a bit of a mixed message that he's getting from the "fans" say the least. It's like "We hate you you sonofabitch. We think your a liar and a manipulative, egotistical bastard. Now why the fuck won't you sing for us?" :roll:





I really think that he knows that it's just a very few forums on the net that put him down, Sherrie. He still gets so much recognition and regard from his peers and the public, even without performing, that he must know he is held in high regard and maybe more so since his efforts have withstood the test of time.



I sincerely hope you're right HOTS.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:56 am
by slucero
bionic wrote:
Andrew wrote:The band would jump on Perry returning in a heartbeat. Steve Perry however, does not want to go down that road.


I know but to save the name of Journey its the only way now and that means its time up for the band :cry:



Perry doesn't need to "save" the name of Journey.... because there are TWO versions of Journey now... the one we all bitch about, and the one everyone remembers as the Perry-fronted version...

In fact... by saying what he said in June of this year ( http://www.fanasylum.com/steveperry/ ) he pretty much is separating himself and the Perry-era legacy from the current circus. Rejoining would only bury the "in-between" years and dilute his legend.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:05 am
by ohsherrie
slucero wrote:
Perry doesn't need to "save" the name of Journey.... because there are TWO versions of Journey now... the one we all bitch about, and the one everyone remembers as the Perry-fronted version...

In fact... by saying what he said in June of this year ( http://www.fanasylum.com/steveperry/ ) he pretty much is separating himself and the Perry-era legacy from the current circus. Rejoining would only bury the "in-between" years and dilute his legend.


Great point. :D

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:53 am
by Andrew
Rockindeano wrote:
Andrew wrote:The band would jump on Perry returning in a heartbeat. Steve Perry however, does not want to go down that road.


Can you blame him?


Not at all.

Re: Was a Reunion tour offered?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:57 am
by tj
bionic wrote:Much like Black Sabbath,Van Halen,Kiss and now Led Zeppelin promoters are always offering bands money to reform classic line ups.
Makes you wonder if this offer has been put to Journey as of recent,now i am damn sure that if it was Neal And Jon would jump at the chance to regain some cred.Ross probably does not care as long as he gets paid and can pull stupid faces he is happy!
So i can only assume that Perry has decided for whatever reason that this is not going to happen,we all know how much Perry cares about the name(Dont crack the Stone) so for him to not return and save the bands arses is indeed a sad time for this ONCE great band. :(


Here we go again... :?

Re: Was a Reunion tour offered?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:48 pm
by yak
What's the most unsexy thing on the planet? For me, it's women who swear like there's no tomorrow.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:53 pm
by Rick
He probably didn't cash those checks because someone called and said.."Steve, please don't cash that check, it may bounce."

Re: Was a Reunion tour offered?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:54 pm
by Maui Tom
yak wrote:What's the most unsexy thing on the planet? For me, it's women who swear like there's no tomorrow.


Huge turn on for me.....:)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:59 pm
by SteveForever
strangegrey wrote:In all seriousness, Perry doesn't need a red cent. He's set for life....literally millions in the bank. I don't think money *could* motivate him. There used to be jokes within the journey camp on how there's a handful of checks (you know, the cut he takes from everything Journey does) that Nomota has sent to Perry....that Perry hasn't even bothered cashing. He's just got em piled up on his kitchen pass-through or in a draw in his office....If he doesn't even cash the checks Journey sends him, why would a significant increase in the value of those checks make an ounce of difference.

He doesn't have 5 alimony checks to sign every month and reportedly lives within his means.....he doesn't take the mere 100,000 dollar merch check that they get at the end of a tour and disappear, blowing through the check in 3 months....on various things us average folks don't need or shouldn't buy.

I'm not going to pretend to know what motives Perry these days...and anyone else that posts on this board, hasn't the foggiest either....because no one, including certain people here that have the inside track to Perry's hall of mirrors, has been able to satisfactorily explain Perry's reasons for what he's done in the past.

Put it this way...if I were Perry....and if money weren't a deciding factor (like it isn't with him), I wouldn't bother returning to Journey at this point EITHER. Why would I subject myself to the bullshit that constantly surrounds Friga....or have to deal with the Napoleonic complex that Neal has....or be subject to misguidance at the hands of Irving Assoff??!

And last, but certainly not least, by any stretch....why would I resurface...only to embolden and drudge up the most psycopathic, obsessive/compuslive, intrusive fans in the world. Face it, Journey fans (specifically Loons) are fucked up people. Perry hasn't been seen in public (in a musical context, forget that White Sox bullshit) for over 10 years....and still Loons raise the man up on some angelic pedastal....desperate to see the return of the messiah....embarassing *real* Journey fans for the past decade with their unparalleled obsessiveness. Why on earth would Perry return to bring all of these kooks out of the woodwork.

For crying out loud.....Perry's been gone from Journey for 11 years, 10 years before that, also gone.....and only now, the loon factor has dropped to a level that only gives me a headache every other time I read a fucking Journey board. Holy Shit, can some of you ( that aren't loon psychopaths) imagine what would happen if Perry came back and said "We're going on tour!"......This place, my fucking board, The google Joey Reardon express and countless other web forums with explode with an idiocy that would have been unmatched since the french revolution.....anything Journey would be unbearable!

Christ, I'm getting sick to my stomach even thinking about it....


Look who's talking. :roll:

Re: Was a Reunion tour offered?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:11 pm
by NealIsGod
yak wrote:What's the most unsexy thing on the planet? For me, it's women who swear like there's no tomorrow.


What if they're just talking dirty to you during?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:22 pm
by sindee67
ohsherrie wrote:Between the disgrace that Neal and Jon have made of the Journey name and the way the people on the Journey messageboards have tried for the last 10 years to smear Perry's name, why the hell would he want to offer himself up in sacrifice?

It's got to be a bit of a mixed message that he's getting from the "fans" to say the least. It's like "We hate you you sonofabitch. We think your a liar and a manipulative, egotistical bastard. Now why the fuck won't you sing for us?" :roll:


AMEN!!!!
As a ''LOON''? Is that what you call it?
I have never felt that Mr. Perry should do anything he didn't want to do, that goes for anyone!!
He is a very intelligent person, and knows what and how to do things successfully. I personally, think
he enjoys the attention. What red-blooded American man wouldn't?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:36 pm
by sindee67
Let me add one more thing..
There is sooooo much he can offer the new and upcoming artists, the ones that really
have a passion for music, and I think, personally, that is where he should focus his attentions now..JMO!

Re: Was a Reunion tour offered?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:48 pm
by yak
NealIsGod wrote:
yak wrote:What's the most unsexy thing on the planet? For me, it's women who swear like there's no tomorrow.


What if they're just talking dirty to you during?


Eh...No, not talking about THAT. Talking about when people go off because something is not going their way here.

Re: Was a Reunion tour offered?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:58 pm
by NealIsGod
yak wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
yak wrote:What's the most unsexy thing on the planet? For me, it's women who swear like there's no tomorrow.


What if they're just talking dirty to you during?


Eh...No, not talking about THAT. Talking about when people go off because something is not going their way here.


Oh. My bad. :oops: :lol:

Re: Was a Reunion tour offered?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:31 pm
by yak
NealIsGod wrote:
yak wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
yak wrote:What's the most unsexy thing on the planet? For me, it's women who swear like there's no tomorrow.


What if they're just talking dirty to you during?


Eh...No, not talking about THAT. Talking about when people go off because something is not going their way here.


Oh. My bad. :oops: :lol:




I dunno. Maybe someone should ask your wife? :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:36 pm
by Saint John
Rockindeano wrote:
Andrew wrote:The band would jump on Perry returning in a heartbeat. Steve Perry however, does not want to go down that road.


Can you blame him?



Yes. Suck it up and do it for the fans. Kind of like we do when we buy the same repackaged shit time after time (GH, GH remastered, and The Essential Journey are basically the same thing). Can't wait for The Essential Journey to be remastered. :roll:

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:50 pm
by Rockindeano
Sherrie wrote:It's got to be a bit of a mixed message that he's getting from the "fans" say the least. It's like "We hate you you sonofabitch. We think your a liar and a manipulative, egotistical bastard. Now why the fuck won't you sing for us?" :roll:


It's the truth. He is manipulative and egotistical. He is a sonofabitch for turning on the very people he "wrote songs about."

Bastard. By the way, he ain't Elvis you know.

Re: Was a Reunion tour offered?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:47 pm
by NealIsGod
yak wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
yak wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
yak wrote:What's the most unsexy thing on the planet? For me, it's women who swear like there's no tomorrow.


What if they're just talking dirty to you during?


Eh...No, not talking about THAT. Talking about when people go off because something is not going their way here.


Oh. My bad. :oops: :lol:


I dunno. Maybe someone should ask your wife? :lol:


Oh, she could make a sailor blush.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:00 am
by brywool
strangegrey wrote:
mikemarrs wrote:i wonder one thing.if perry was offered an insane amount of money like about 20 or 30 million would he do it one final time.when kiss reformed on the reunion tour there were reports that stanley and simmons pocketed 30 or 35 apiece just on that tour.


In all seriousness, Perry doesn't need a red cent. He's set for life....literally millions in the bank. I don't think money *could* motivate him. There used to be jokes within the journey camp on how there's a handful of checks (you know, the cut he takes from everything Journey does) that Nomota has sent to Perry....that Perry hasn't even bothered cashing. He's just got em piled up on his kitchen pass-through or in a draw in his office....If he doesn't even cash the checks Journey sends him, why would a significant increase in the value of those checks make an ounce of difference.

He doesn't have 5 alimony checks to sign every month and reportedly lives within his means.....he doesn't take the mere 100,000 dollar merch check that they get at the end of a tour and disappear, blowing through the check in 3 months....on various things us average folks don't need or shouldn't buy.

I'm not going to pretend to know what motives Perry these days...and anyone else that posts on this board, hasn't the foggiest either....because no one, including certain people here that have the inside track to Perry's hall of mirrors, has been able to satisfactorily explain Perry's reasons for what he's done in the past.

Put it this way...if I were Perry....and if money weren't a deciding factor (like it isn't with him), I wouldn't bother returning to Journey at this point EITHER. Why would I subject myself to the bullshit that constantly surrounds Friga....or have to deal with the Napoleonic complex that Neal has....or be subject to misguidance at the hands of Irving Assoff??!

And last, but certainly not least, by any stretch....why would I resurface...only to embolden and drudge up the most psycopathic, obsessive/compuslive, intrusive fans in the world. Face it, Journey fans (specifically Loons) are fucked up people. Perry hasn't been seen in public (in a musical context, forget that White Sox bullshit) for over 10 years....and still Loons raise the man up on some angelic pedastal....desperate to see the return of the messiah....embarassing *real* Journey fans for the past decade with their unparalleled obsessiveness. Why on earth would Perry return to bring all of these kooks out of the woodwork.

For crying out loud.....Perry's been gone from Journey for 11 years, 10 years before that, also gone.....and only now, the loon factor has dropped to a level that only gives me a headache every other time I read a fucking Journey board. Holy Shit, can some of you ( that aren't loon psychopaths) imagine what would happen if Perry came back and said "We're going on tour!"......This place, my fucking board, The google Joey Reardon express and countless other web forums with explode with an idiocy that would have been unmatched since the french revolution.....anything Journey would be unbearable!

Christ, I'm getting sick to my stomach even thinking about it....


Great post!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:49 am
by strangegrey
SteveForever wrote:
strangegrey wrote:In all seriousness, Perry doesn't need a red cent. He's set for life....literally millions in the bank. I don't think money *could* motivate him. There used to be jokes within the journey camp on how there's a handful of checks (you know, the cut he takes from everything Journey does) that Nomota has sent to Perry....that Perry hasn't even bothered cashing. He's just got em piled up on his kitchen pass-through or in a draw in his office....If he doesn't even cash the checks Journey sends him, why would a significant increase in the value of those checks make an ounce of difference.

He doesn't have 5 alimony checks to sign every month and reportedly lives within his means.....he doesn't take the mere 100,000 dollar merch check that they get at the end of a tour and disappear, blowing through the check in 3 months....on various things us average folks don't need or shouldn't buy.

I'm not going to pretend to know what motives Perry these days...and anyone else that posts on this board, hasn't the foggiest either....because no one, including certain people here that have the inside track to Perry's hall of mirrors, has been able to satisfactorily explain Perry's reasons for what he's done in the past.

Put it this way...if I were Perry....and if money weren't a deciding factor (like it isn't with him), I wouldn't bother returning to Journey at this point EITHER. Why would I subject myself to the bullshit that constantly surrounds Friga....or have to deal with the Napoleonic complex that Neal has....or be subject to misguidance at the hands of Irving Assoff??!

And last, but certainly not least, by any stretch....why would I resurface...only to embolden and drudge up the most psycopathic, obsessive/compuslive, intrusive fans in the world. Face it, Journey fans (specifically Loons) are fucked up people. Perry hasn't been seen in public (in a musical context, forget that White Sox bullshit) for over 10 years....and still Loons raise the man up on some angelic pedastal....desperate to see the return of the messiah....embarassing *real* Journey fans for the past decade with their unparalleled obsessiveness. Why on earth would Perry return to bring all of these kooks out of the woodwork.

For crying out loud.....Perry's been gone from Journey for 11 years, 10 years before that, also gone.....and only now, the loon factor has dropped to a level that only gives me a headache every other time I read a fucking Journey board. Holy Shit, can some of you ( that aren't loon psychopaths) imagine what would happen if Perry came back and said "We're going on tour!"......This place, my fucking board, The google Joey Reardon express and countless other web forums with explode with an idiocy that would have been unmatched since the french revolution.....anything Journey would be unbearable!

Christ, I'm getting sick to my stomach even thinking about it....


Look who's talking. :roll:


If the shoe fits, you need to wear it SF! :roll:

I'm not part of the group of fans...(fuck I'm not even a fan of this band anymore)....that has spent the past 10 years pining for the return of a retired man just desperate to get away from psychos like yourself, hots and others...Face it. The messiah has left the building...he's not coming back. If you have a disease you want him to cure, you missed your chance back in 1986! :roll: