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Livin' to Do & Live and Breath

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:47 am
by hoagiepete
Sittin in the office, workin late, listenin to MP3s on computer and Arrival started to play.

You know...Livin' to Do & Live and Breath aren't too damn bad of songs.

Re: Livin' to Do & Live and Breath

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:52 am
by journeyinto2001
hoagiepete wrote:Sittin in the office, workin late, listenin to MP3s on computer and Arrival started to play.

You know...Livin' to Do & Live and Breath aren't too damn bad of songs.


That album was very promising. Livin' to Do was a definite standout. Higher Place, Kiss Me Softly also very good and I loved World Gone Wild because it rocked pretty hard(actually campaigned to get it added to the U.S. version on Back Talk)

Unfortunately, the album did not rock hard enough, and was too focused on being the "too commercial soft-rock" "Journey" of the past, and in addition the label was not supportive.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:52 am
by conversationpc
"Livin' to Do" is the shit. That song was the highlight of the Indianapolis show in 2001.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:01 pm
by hoagiepete
I agree. World Gone Wild has one of the best Schon jams I have heard in many years. Sounds great cranked up in the car. Vocals seemed to mixed poorly though

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:12 pm
by journeyinto2001
hoagiepete wrote:I agree. World Gone Wild has one of the best Schon jams I have heard in many years. Sounds great cranked up in the car. Vocals seemed to mixed poorly though


I agree the vocals were poorly mixed, actually the whole song was mixed poorly, drums sounded really strange/not clean as they did on the rest of the album. I think because they had not planned to add it to the U.S. release, and only after a big campaign on BT to do so, they decided to add it, so they did a rush recording/mix of it to get it on there.

If they would have made the album much more of a rocker with songs like WGW, they might have had a chance to make a small break from the Perry years (in rocking more than in the past), but I'm sure Sony pushed them to be sappy/commercial.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:17 pm
by BobbyinTN
I love "Livin' To Do". It's on every playlist on my IPod.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:01 pm
by Moon Beam
Livin To Do is my fave Augeri number, grand stand of a tune.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:18 pm
by Saint John
Arrival was doomed because of muddled vocals, the sound of Deen's drumming and his shitty drum playing in general. Schon, Cain and Valory were very solid on Arrival, but the 2 new guys, the label and the engineers dropped the ball.

Re: Livin' to Do & Live and Breath

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:11 pm
by Soto All The Way
hoagiepete wrote:Sittin in the office, workin late, listenin to MP3s on computer and Arrival started to play.

You know...Livin' to Do & Live and Breath aren't too damn bad of songs.


Livin to Do was also the highlight years back in Pittsburgh. Written also by Neal's dad. Live and Breath (first verse) was the intro to WITS for the Vacation's Over tour and I was always like , "Wow, what kick ass intro" and then next year the same vox were on Arrival....Very cool!!!! Both are highlights on Arrival.
e- :shock:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:10 am
by jrnyjetster
Saint John wrote:Arrival was doomed because of muddled vocals, the sound of Deen's drumming and his shitty drum playing in general. Schon, Cain and Valory were very solid on Arrival, but the 2 new guys, the label and the engineers dropped the ball.


Dude, how can you say Deen is a shitty drum player?? Are you fuckin' kiddin' me? :roll:

Re: Livin' to Do & Live and Breath

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:54 am
by lights1961
hoagiepete wrote:Sittin in the office, workin late, listenin to MP3s on computer and Arrival started to play.

You know...Livin' to Do & Live and Breath aren't too damn bad of songs.


livin to do and I got a reason...

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:45 am
by stevew2
That intro blew me away the first time i heard it, i even like frigas solo

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:55 am
by AR
Best songs on that CD:

Higher Place
Signs of Life
To Be Alive Again

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:31 am
by Saint John
jrnyjetster wrote:
Saint John wrote:Arrival was doomed because of muddled vocals, the sound of Deen's drumming and his shitty drum playing in general. Schon, Cain and Valory were very solid on Arrival, but the 2 new guys, the label and the engineers dropped the ball.


Dude, how can you say Deen is a shitty drum player?? Are you fuckin' kiddin' me? :roll:



I didn't say he "was a shitty drum player." I said "his shitty drum playing." Deen is NOT an AOR drummer. He's a hard rock/metal drummer. He's like a fish out of water in Journey.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:33 am
by Pelata
AR wrote:Best songs on that CD:

Higher Place
Signs of Life
To Be Alive Again


Especially TBAA...LOVE that song!!!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:07 am
by journeyinto2001
Saint John wrote:
jrnyjetster wrote:
Saint John wrote:Arrival was doomed because of muddled vocals, the sound of Deen's drumming and his shitty drum playing in general. Schon, Cain and Valory were very solid on Arrival, but the 2 new guys, the label and the engineers dropped the ball.


Dude, how can you say Deen is a shitty drum player?? Are you fuckin' kiddin' me? :roll:



I didn't say he "was a shitty drum player." I said "his shitty drum playing." Deen is NOT an AOR drummer. He's a hard rock/metal drummer. He's like a fish out of water in Journey.


Take a listen to Kiss Me Softly- has AOR and total finesse all over it. Fits in Journey as well as any other drummer. I think YOU are the fish out of water in this post....

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:14 am
by Soto All The Way
Saint John wrote:
jrnyjetster wrote:
Saint John wrote:Arrival was doomed because of muddled vocals, the sound of Deen's drumming and his shitty drum playing in general. Schon, Cain and Valory were very solid on Arrival, but the 2 new guys, the label and the engineers dropped the ball.


Dude, how can you say Deen is a shitty drum player?? Are you fuckin' kiddin' me? :roll:



I didn't say he "was a shitty drum player." I said "his shitty drum playing." Deen is NOT an AOR drummer. He's a hard rock/metal drummer. He's like a fish out of water in Journey.


SJ,

I understand what you are saying. Take SS sor example. That's even more Deen's style. He did play for Ozzy and some heavier bands over the early years.
I would guess that Deen would mush more be playing to Chain Reaction, Back talk and songs there of....He definately not a shitty drummer.....Deen's all class too.....Took care of my kid big time.


e-

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:27 am
by RisingForce73
AR wrote:Best songs on that CD:

Higher Place
Signs of Life
To Be Alive Again


Finally! Someone who agrees with me.

I always listen to those three songs in succession.


Well played, Ed.