MR

then what... all these posts will be meaningless, but will you be man or lady enough to say we were wrong??? ... I mean it could happen, we just might end up liking this guys sound in jrny... I am going to be willing to give it a shot.


Rick

lights1961 wrote:then what... all these posts will be meaningless, but will you be man or lady enough to say we were wrong??? ... I mean it could happen, we just might end up liking this guys sound in jrny... I am going to be willing to give it a shot.


Rick

Give it 6 months and I guarantee they'll be Arnel lovers in every other post, as there where with Augi and Soto ones, it's always the case. If he comes on here and posts most will want in, that's just how shallow it is in cyberspace.

Some of we won't ever change our mind.

Sassie wrote:Some of we won't ever change our mind.

Sassie that's a strange sentence

I know but I was just staying with the we in their statement.

Sassie wrote:Some of we won't ever change our mind.

that i can understand... but we are a fan base of the music first and foremost... so if the music sounds more than excellent... as Ian said...give it 6 months... Arnel lovers will be heard here, just as JSS and Augeri and Perry... Well Perry was before the internet... thank god for that!!! could you imagine the hatred there would have been for ROR coming after the heels of Frontiers, the message boards would have been a hoot back then!! the cry would have been ROR sounds like a Perry LP not a Journey record...what happen to ross what happened to smitty... hehehe.


Rick

Sassie wrote:I know but I was just staying with the we in their statement.

we see were we are comin' from we do

lights1961 wrote:

Sassie wrote:Some of we won't ever change our mind.

that i can understand... but we are a fan base of the music first and foremost... so if the music sounds more than excellent... as Ian said...give it 6 months... Arnel lovers will be heard here, just as JSS and Augeri and Perry... Well Perry was before the internet... thank god for that!!! could you imagine the hatred there would have been for ROR coming after the heels of Frontiers, the message boards would have been a hoot back then!! the cry would have been ROR sounds like a Perry LP not a Journey record...what happen to ross what happened to smitty... hehehe.


Rick

and we all know what side of the fence Matthew would be

I'm still hoping that Journey goes with someone else, and we all know how possible that still is don't we?

Very possible!

If they hire Arnel I will turn a deaf ear and finally be done with this band for good.

The problem with me not liking Journey anymore has very little to do with Arnel. It has to do with what they did to Jeff, and what they said. They aren't interested in making any new music and are going to just tour the dirty dozen. Why would I be interested in that? Arnel might just sing the piss out of it, but I've heard someone sing the piss out of those songs for 30 years. Why would I go see them do that again? If they write and record a new album, then I might be interested, but probably not. I'm still madder than fuck about what they did to JSS. You just don't treat good people that way.

styxman wrote:

lights1961 wrote:then what... all these posts will be meaningless, but will you be man or lady enough to say we were wrong??? ... I mean it could happen, we just might end up liking this guys sound in jrny... I am going to be willing to give it a shot.


Rick

Give it 6 months and I guarantee they'll be Arnel lovers in every other post, as there where with Augi and Soto ones, it's always the case. If he comes on here and posts most will want in, that's just how shallow it is in cyberspace.

Bingo, we have a winner!

Good post!

If they put out a new album, and it has good songs, I'll like it. Still will think Neal and Friga are ass-clowns, but good music is good music.

I'm not really passing judgement on the guy himself, he's just an innocent pawn in this game...I'm sure he can hit the notes, and be at least as good as Augeri in the stage presence dept. (since Augeri didn't have much of that to begin with).

I think they can find a few vocalists who can do the job musically...but they'll never find another guy who can win over a crowd as well as JSS, and that's what they're going to miss when they go out again, methinks.

A singer and a frontman/writer/contibutor are not the same thing.

Greatest hits 4ever. And "jumped the shark."

It's going to suck donkey dicks. I may have to go though. I'm a huge fan of Eddie Money and Blue Oyster Cult. Hopefully I can time it so Journey is finished playing before I get there for the other two.

AR wrote:It's going to suck donkey dicks. I may have to go though. I'm a huge fan of Eddie Money and Blue Oyster Cult. Hopefully I can time it so Journey is finished playing before I get there for the other two.

The funny thing is the last time I saw BOC was in a tent outside the local Bennigan's bar and grill... get ready for the Journey clowns to be in a tent near YOU soon!

As the close-minded conservative I am, I can say I do not plan on giving it a chance if they hire Arnel. The treatment of the former three singers was enough for me. I did plan on supporting Jeremey if he were named the lead singer, simply because I consider him a friend. Rag on me all you want, I just have no interest in this...

styxman wrote:

lights1961 wrote:

Sassie wrote:Some of we won't ever change our mind.

that i can understand... but we are a fan base of the music first and foremost... so if the music sounds more than excellent... as Ian said...give it 6 months... Arnel lovers will be heard here, just as JSS and Augeri and Perry... Well Perry was before the internet... thank god for that!!! could you imagine the hatred there would have been for ROR coming after the heels of Frontiers, the message boards would have been a hoot back then!! the cry would have been ROR sounds like a Perry LP not a Journey record...what happen to ross what happened to smitty... hehehe.


Rick

and we all know what side of the fence Matthew would be

Same side as me. I love ROR.

There is a 100% chance that I will be at the next Journey show if Arnel is chosen. I suspect that he'll be better than Augeri and Soto and nowhere near Perry, but there is no better way of finding out than "live." THAT will be the true test.

Saint John wrote:There is a 100% chance that I will be at the next Journey show if Arnel is chosen. I suspect that he'll be better than Augeri and Soto and nowhere near Perry, but there is no better way of finding out than "live." THAT will be the true test.

How is Arnel going to be better than Jeff? Just a question. I like you dude, but you have to give me a reason on this one.

Rick wrote:

Saint John wrote:There is a 100% chance that I will be at the next Journey show if Arnel is chosen. I suspect that he'll be better than Augeri and Soto and nowhere near Perry, but there is no better way of finding out than "live." THAT will be the true test.

How is Arnel going to be better than Jeff? Just a question. I like you dude, but you have to give me a reason on this one.

He covers the songs closer than Jeff and is much closer to Perry's "tenor" than Jeff was. While his stage presence sucks, I think he has a stronger voice than Jeff too. He's just not as polished as Jeff and doesn't have Jeff's ability to sing so many genres. Specific to AOR though, I think he's the better of the two.

Saint John wrote:

Rick wrote:

Saint John wrote:There is a 100% chance that I will be at the next Journey show if Arnel is chosen. I suspect that he'll be better than Augeri and Soto and nowhere near Perry, but there is no better way of finding out than "live." THAT will be the true test.

How is Arnel going to be better than Jeff? Just a question. I like you dude, but you have to give me a reason on this one.

He covers the songs closer than Jeff and is much closer to Perry's "tenor" than Jeff was. While his stage presence sucks, I think he has a stronger voice than Jeff too. He's just not as polished as Jeff and doesn't have Jeff's ability to sing so many genres. Specific to AOR though, I think he's the better of the two.

That's a reasonable answer. But Dan, you have to agree, there are singers and then there are frontmen. Now, make your choice.

Rick wrote:

Saint John wrote:There is a 100% chance that I will be at the next Journey show if Arnel is chosen. I suspect that he'll be better than Augeri and Soto and nowhere near Perry, but there is no better way of finding out than "live." THAT will be the true test.

How is Arnel going to be better than Jeff? Just a question. I like you dude, but you have to give me a reason on this one.

Rick, there IS no way!

Here's my question: When talking about stage presence and crowd interaction, I saw a few posters the past few days state that Arnel isn't gonna talk, he's gonna sing. Could someone please explain to me how in the world that is gonna be possible???? Steve Perry, Steve Augeri, and JSS are all well-known for their interaction with the audience. If Arnel isn't going to interact with them, that in itself is enough for me to say 'no thanks'. They have already moved away from their 'legacy' with that one little (actually very big) detail.

Saint John wrote:

Rick wrote:

Saint John wrote:There is a 100% chance that I will be at the next Journey show if Arnel is chosen. I suspect that he'll be better than Augeri and Soto and nowhere near Perry, but there is no better way of finding out than "live." THAT will be the true test.

How is Arnel going to be better than Jeff? Just a question. I like you dude, but you have to give me a reason on this one.

He covers the songs closer than Jeff and is much closer to Perry's "tenor" than Jeff was. While his stage presence sucks, I think he has a stronger voice than Jeff too. He's just not as polished as Jeff and doesn't have Jeff's ability to sing so many genres. Specific to AOR though, I think he's the better of the two.

As far as stage presence goes, perhaps he'll be energized and animated by having actual musicians behind him instead of those crap ones in his cover band.

donnaplease wrote:

Rick wrote:

Saint John wrote:There is a 100% chance that I will be at the next Journey show if Arnel is chosen. I suspect that he'll be better than Augeri and Soto and nowhere near Perry, but there is no better way of finding out than "live." THAT will be the true test.

How is Arnel going to be better than Jeff? Just a question. I like you dude, but you have to give me a reason on this one.

Rick, there IS no way!

Here's my question: When talking about stage presence and crowd interaction, I saw a few posters the past few days state that Arnel isn't gonna talk, he's gonna sing. Could someone please explain to me how in the world that is gonna be possible???? Steve Perry, Steve Augeri, and JSS are all well-known for their interaction with the audience. If Arnel isn't going to interact with them, that in itself is enough for me to say 'no thanks'. They have already moved away from their 'legacy' with that one little (actually very big) detail.

Valid point(s). However, I still have to go to one show and see how it "feels." Again, you don't know til you experience it. And I certainly respect the decision to not experience it at all.

Saint John wrote:

donnaplease wrote:

Rick wrote:

Saint John wrote:There is a 100% chance that I will be at the next Journey show if Arnel is chosen. I suspect that he'll be better than Augeri and Soto and nowhere near Perry, but there is no better way of finding out than "live." THAT will be the true test.

How is Arnel going to be better than Jeff? Just a question. I like you dude, but you have to give me a reason on this one.

Rick, there IS no way!

Here's my question: When talking about stage presence and crowd interaction, I saw a few posters the past few days state that Arnel isn't gonna talk, he's gonna sing. Could someone please explain to me how in the world that is gonna be possible???? Steve Perry, Steve Augeri, and JSS are all well-known for their interaction with the audience. If Arnel isn't going to interact with them, that in itself is enough for me to say 'no thanks'. They have already moved away from their 'legacy' with that one little (actually very big) detail.

Valid point(s). However, I still have to go to one show and see how it "feels." Again, you don't know til you experience it. And I certainly respect the decision to not experience it at all.

Good enough. You are correct saying that you have to experience it to know, so I will shut up here.

Ya know maybe that's what Neal and Jon were looking for someone that will NOT talk to any fans.You know a puppet do as I say.

No Arnel for me. Goodbye Journey.

dcvader wrote:No Arnel for me. Goodbye Journey.

I'm with you Vader. I saw the best shows Journey has ever done since 86 last year.
3 in fact!!Arnel can NEVER touch those shows.I will wait to see the YouTube clips of Journey with Arnel, but they will never get another dime from me as a concert goer.I have to go out of town for work the night of the LaPlata show,but hopefully the place in Rhode Island JSS is playing will be close enough for me to go to,since I will be in Boston.
I will give my full support to JSS.Enough of the horseshit with Journey.They have turned a once great legacy into nothing more than a shit stain.

SP must be sick to his stomach over what they have done to the name Journey.

Seeing Journey at this point is the equivalent to seeing Sha Na Na at the State Fair, which I am sure is what the majority of the venues on next years tour will be.

What a shame.....

what if we end up liking it...

sounds like something a real hot looking woman says right before having sex with a nerdy self concious man.

mikemarrs wrote:what if we end up liking it...

sounds like something a real hot looking woman says right before having sex with a nerdy self conscious man.

Have you been talking to my wife?