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Hello Jeremey, my name is Lisa and I am the HR Director of the Journey organization. Welcome aboard and your new employee number is 364189. You will use this number when completing timesheets, which are due each Friday no later than 5:00 p.m. PST. Failure to submit timesheets in a timely fashion could result in your paycheck not getting issued. In addition, I'd like to go over some of the conditions of your compensation plan:

- It is the organization's expectation that you will write one new song per week. This song should fit the same genre as our current catalog, as we don't see any value in exploring anything new, music-wise.
- You must, without fail, consistently create the "Steve Perry magic" when collaborating with any band member.
- You must continue to grow your hair, at the minimum rate of 1-inch per week until it is straight and six inches below the shoulder. Additionally, it is the expectation that you remain clean-shaven with the exception of mini-muttonchop sideburns that must be worn at all times.
- For live shows, tight jeans, Nike Cortez sneakers, yellow leopard-skin shirts, and texedo tails must be worn at all times. On this point, there is absolutely no negotiation and will hereafter be referred to as "deal-breakers" in your employment agreement with our organization.
- We would prefer it if you could also expand your nose to be larger and somewhat disproportionate to your face. If this is not genetically possible, a schnoz extension or rhinoplasty enhancement will be acceptable pending the approval of the other band members.
- Lastly, you will both introduce yourself and be referred to hereafter as "Steve".

Failure to meet or exceed any of these conditions will result in your immediate termination from the organization with no warning or due course. Also, these conditions are subject to change without notice or confirmation with you, and could also result in the termination of your employment. We also reserve the right to terminate your employment for whatever reason we deem as "non-80's behavior" or, "non-Perry emmulation". This would be at our descretion and, again, without warning or due course to you.

Thank you, Jeremey and, again, Welcome to the Journey organization.

Holy shit, that was frighteningly accurate!

The whole "dealbreaker" thing weirds me out. Neal can't get it through his thick skulll that the elusive Perry magic in the studio he desperately wants is never gonna be the same with anyone else. That's why those guys were so great. The Schon and Perry chemistry was as important as Cain and Perry . They can get somebody to look like him, try to sound like him, but they can't BE him. Seems like Schon wants a near exact Perry clone without having to pay the price that comes with giving Perry the control....and the cash.
Jeremey, you are one lucky dude, NOT getting that gig! The pressure to be somebody else would never be worth it.

Yeah, I read your blog and that seemed screwed up. You are a much stronger person than they gave you credit for. You don't need to prostitute yourself for those assholes.

If this is how they've always done things over there, maybe Perry had something with his controversial "I never really felt like I was part of the band" comment from a few years ago. How could you with the axe about to fall at any time?

Their loss, not yours. Enjoy your life with your family my friend.

LazzMan wrote:If this is how they've always done things over there, maybe Perry had something with his controversial "I never really felt like I was part of the band" comment from a few years ago. How could you with the axe about to fall at any time?

Having an axe doesn't help too much when you use it to chop off your own head.

LazzMan wrote:Yeah, I read your blog and that seemed screwed up. You are a much stronger person than they gave you credit for. You don't need to prostitute yourself for those assholes.

If this is how they've always done things over there, maybe Perry had something with his controversial "I never really felt like I was part of the band" comment from a few years ago. How could you with the axe about to fall at any time?

Their loss, not yours. Enjoy your life with your family my friend.

Thanks....

Having spent some time with the band, I can say that I still don't understand why Perry might not have felt like he was part of the band, but I can see how over time, as that relationship soured, it must have become a very "us" and "him" situation between Perry and the band. Another member of a great AOR band who did a few shows with Journey both in their heyday and in the Augeri years cautioned me that he felt an odd vibe between Augeri and the rest of the band, kind of the same "me" and "them" wavelength. I can appreciate that a lot more from Augeri's standpoint, but from Perry's standpoint - If what Herbie said was true, that band meetings had come down to Perry and Lee Phillips (his uber-attorney) at one end of the table, and the rest of the band at the other, I can appreciate that. I can also understand Perry's "never felt like" comment from the standpoint that there must have been some power struggles between Perry and Herbert, that Perry felt like he was on the outside of, and that may have played a part in that comment as well.

But he loses me at the "never" part...Certainly at some point, that "band of brothers" mentality must have united them. What happened to "We believed in music, brothers 'til the end...?"

Jeremy,

Can I have a link to your blog ?

I know it irks Jeremey a bit so I'll remind a few of you that his name has 3 "e's." JEREMEY. Cool thread, though.

Sorry for the double post.

THanks for the link to the blog. Wow, that sure answers some questions doesnt it ?

Jeremey wrote:

LazzMan wrote:Yeah, I read your blog and that seemed screwed up. You are a much stronger person than they gave you credit for. You don't need to prostitute yourself for those assholes.

If this is how they've always done things over there, maybe Perry had something with his controversial "I never really felt like I was part of the band" comment from a few years ago. How could you with the axe about to fall at any time?

Their loss, not yours. Enjoy your life with your family my friend.

Thanks....

Having spent some time with the band, I can say that I still don't understand why Perry might not have felt like he was part of the band, but I can see how over time, as that relationship soured, it must have become a very "us" and "him" situation between Perry and the band. Another member of a great AOR band who did a few shows with Journey both in their heyday and in the Augeri years cautioned me that he felt an odd vibe between Augeri and the rest of the band, kind of the same "me" and "them" wavelength. I can appreciate that a lot more from Augeri's standpoint, but from Perry's standpoint - If what Herbie said was true, that band meetings had come down to Perry and Lee Phillips (his uber-attorney) at one end of the table, and the rest of the band at the other, I can appreciate that. I can also understand Perry's "never felt like" comment from the standpoint that there must have been some power struggles between Perry and Herbert, that Perry felt like he was on the outside of, and that may have played a part in that comment as well.

But he loses me at the "never" part...Certainly at some point, that "band of brothers" mentality must have united them. What happened to "We believed in music, brothers 'til the end...?"

Ahhh....good old Behind The Music. What we may not have seen is the context Perry's statement was taken out of, Jeremey. He may have been referring to a specific time period. For all we know his statement could have been preceded by "Yeah, after 1983 their was a lot of division in the band. From that point on, I NEVER REALLY FELT LIKE A PART OF THE BAND." VH-1 may have edited that out for dramatic purposes...something networks LOVE to do. I'm not putting words in Steve Perry's mouth or trying to defend him, but I think it's only fair that we assume a lot of those segments were edited to cause as much shit stirring as possible.

LazzMan wrote:Hello Jeremy, my name is Lisa and I am the HR Director of the Journey organization. Welcome aboard and you new employee number is 364189. You will use this number when completing timesheets, which are due each Friday no later than 5:00 p.m. PST. Failure to submit timesheets in a timely fashion could result in your paycheck not getting issued. In addition, I'd like to go over some of the conditions of your compensation plan:

- It is the organization's expectation that you will write one new song per week. This song should fit the same genre as our current catalog, as we don't see any value in exploring anything new, music-wise.
- You must, without fail, consistently create the "Steve Perry magic" when collaborating with any band member.
- You must continue to grow your hair, at the minimum rate of 1-inch per week until it is straight and six inches below the shoulder. Additionally, it is the expectation that you remain clean-shaven with the exception of mini-muttonchop sidburns that must be worn at all times.
- For live shows, tight jeans, Nike Cortez sneakers, yellow leopard-skin shirts, and texedo tails must be worn at all times. On this point, there is absolutly no negotiation and are hereafter referred to as "deal-breakers" in your employment agreement with our organization.
- We would preferr it if you could also expand your nose to be larger and somewhat disproportionate to your face. If this is not genetically possible, a schnoz extension will be acceptable pending the approval of the other band members.
- Lastly, you will both introduce yourself and be referred to hereafter as "Steve".

Failure to meet or exceed any of these conditions will result in your immediate termination from the organization with no warning or due course. Also, these conditions are subject to change without notice or confirmation with you, and could also result in the termination of your employment. We also reserve the right to terminate your employment for whatever reason we deem as "non-80's behavior" or, "non-Perry emmulation". This would be at our descretion and, again, without warning or due course to you.

Thank you, Jeremy and, again, Welcome to the Journey organization.

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Very funny and very scary at the same time!!!!

Cat

Schon is a loose cannon. How could you ever take to the bank anything he says? One day it's one thing and the next it is something totally different. Add Princess to the mix and you have total chaos.

Jeremey, do you happen to have the full post that you believe Neal Schon posted anonymously? I really can't get over what jerks these guys are. You seem like a decent and down to earth guy -- you just wouldn't fit in with people like Cain & Schon.

I remember seeing that post here and thinking, 'well here's another asshole chiming in'. I don't remember reading the post, but I'm glad to know I was accurate in my opinion of the poster.

What was the content of the post? (reason for not hiring you) How do you know it was Fro?

Saint John wrote:I know it irks Jeremey a bit so I'll remind a few of you that his name has 3 "e's." JEREMEY. Cool thread, though.

My apologies to Jeremey. I'll spank myself later (of course, I was going to do that anyway).

Saint John wrote:

Jeremey wrote:

LazzMan wrote:Yeah, I read your blog and that seemed screwed up. You are a much stronger person than they gave you credit for. You don't need to prostitute yourself for those assholes.

If this is how they've always done things over there, maybe Perry had something with his controversial "I never really felt like I was part of the band" comment from a few years ago. How could you with the axe about to fall at any time?

Their loss, not yours. Enjoy your life with your family my friend.

Thanks....

Having spent some time with the band, I can say that I still don't understand why Perry might not have felt like he was part of the band, but I can see how over time, as that relationship soured, it must have become a very "us" and "him" situation between Perry and the band. Another member of a great AOR band who did a few shows with Journey both in their heyday and in the Augeri years cautioned me that he felt an odd vibe between Augeri and the rest of the band, kind of the same "me" and "them" wavelength. I can appreciate that a lot more from Augeri's standpoint, but from Perry's standpoint - If what Herbie said was true, that band meetings had come down to Perry and Lee Phillips (his uber-attorney) at one end of the table, and the rest of the band at the other, I can appreciate that. I can also understand Perry's "never felt like" comment from the standpoint that there must have been some power struggles between Perry and Herbert, that Perry felt like he was on the outside of, and that may have played a part in that comment as well.

But he loses me at the "never" part...Certainly at some point, that "band of brothers" mentality must have united them. What happened to "We believed in music, brothers 'til the end...?"

Ahhh....good old Behind The Music. What we may not have seen is the context Perry's statement was taken out of, Jeremey. He may have been referring to a specific time period. For all we know his statement could have been preceded by "Yeah, after 1983 their was a lot of division in the band. From that point on, I NEVER REALLY FELT LIKE A PART OF THE BAND." VH-1 may have edited that out for dramatic purposes...something networks LOVE to do. I'm not putting words in Steve Perry's mouth or trying to defend him, but I think it's only fair that we assume a lot of those segments were edited to cause as much shit stirring as possible.

Jeremey, thanks so much for that clarification. When a fan has such a deep rooted love for a band, and things so terribly sour, it is just nice to know the truth from the perspective of someone that has been around it. It answers a lot of questions and will no doubt end some speculation. And you ARE the lucky one, you will be much happier than if you joined those two nutcases.

And, SJ, thank YOU for your clarification, I never thought about that comment in those terms, I always thought it was wierd that he said that, I couldn't imagine that feeling seeing as how he had the reins, but that totally makes sense. I am refreshed to know that threads like this still exist, this is what a forum should be about, discussion and information on my favorite band and their music.

Rock on, guys. And have fun in SB too.

LazzMan wrote:Hello Jeremy, my name is Lisa and I am the HR Director of the Journey organization. Welcome aboard and you new employee number is 364189. You will use this number when completing timesheets, which are due each Friday no later than 5:00 p.m. PST. Failure to submit timesheets in a timely fashion could result in your paycheck not getting issued. In addition, I'd like to go over some of the conditions of your compensation plan:

- It is the organization's expectation that you will write one new song per week. This song should fit the same genre as our current catalog, as we don't see any value in exploring anything new, music-wise.
- You must, without fail, consistently create the "Steve Perry magic" when collaborating with any band member.
- You must continue to grow your hair, at the minimum rate of 1-inch per week until it is straight and six inches below the shoulder. Additionally, it is the expectation that you remain clean-shaven with the exception of mini-muttonchop sidburns that must be worn at all times.
- For live shows, tight jeans, Nike Cortez sneakers, yellow leopard-skin shirts, and texedo tails must be worn at all times. On this point, there is absolutly no negotiation and are hereafter referred to as "deal-breakers" in your employment agreement with our organization.
- We would preferr it if you could also expand your nose to be larger and somewhat disproportionate to your face. If this is not genetically possible, a schnoz extension will be acceptable pending the approval of the other band members.
- Lastly, you will both introduce yourself and be referred to hereafter as "Steve".

Failure to meet or exceed any of these conditions will result in your immediate termination from the organization with no warning or due course. Also, these conditions are subject to change without notice or confirmation with you, and could also result in the termination of your employment. We also reserve the right to terminate your employment for whatever reason we deem as "non-80's behavior" or, "non-Perry emmulation". This would be at our descretion and, again, without warning or due course to you.

Thank you, Jeremy and, again, Welcome to the Journey organization.

Oh...my...god....I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry!

Neal Schon is a loon

TVL wrote:Neal Schon is a loon

TVL wrote:Neal Schon is a loon

Hey now, don't be going putting him in OUR category, we don't want him.

ill tell you what ticks me off... this Lazz fellow comes in on a first post
and makes a funny joke/post..unnaceptable!!

larryfromnextdoor wrote:ill tell you what ticks me off... this Lazz fellow comes in on a first post
and makes a funny joke/post..unnaceptable!!

This thread's already longer than any you have started, isn't it, Lar? j/k

NealIsGod wrote:

larryfromnextdoor wrote:ill tell you what ticks me off... this Lazz fellow comes in on a first post
and makes a funny joke/post..unnaceptable!!

This thread's already longer than any you have started, isn't it, Lar? j/k

yep!! oh i had a 2 pager before,, but it was all based on Pity Posts!! i dont start threads.. but if you look back ,, i sure can end them ,,

journeyrock wrote:

TVL wrote:Neal Schon is a loon

Hey now, don't be going putting him in OUR category, we don't want him.

larryfromnextdoor wrote:ill tell you what ticks me off... this Lazz fellow comes in on a first post
and makes a funny joke/post..unnaceptable!!

Thank you. I'm here all week. Make sure to tip your waitress.

Schon has only done ONE thing since he was in his early teens.... hes never had a regular job....

More to the point - Since his teens he's been surrounded by people who do nothing but praise him, tell him he's a prodigy, a "guitar-god". Being 16 and in Santana... then jamming with Clapton, and being asked to join Cream are not the things that happen to "normal" teenagers.... then in his 20's and 30's... really LIVING the rock-star life... sex, drugs, R&R... the sense of entitlement really does fuck with ones mind, and miss-shape ones character...

To his credit, Schon also focused his energies on his talent since his teens... and has reaped the rewards of that focus. BUT - its quite possible he also missed out on some of the other things that shape the character of "regular" people....

Simply put - he's not like us "regular" folk... and its probably not accurate to base ones opinion of him on what us regular folks would consider a "normal" upbringing....