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Could John Schlitt or Geddy Lee sing Perry high notes?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:10 pm
by StoneCold
John Schlitt (former Head East and Petra) and Lee, well you all know him.

Do you think they ever hit notes as high as Perry? I mention 'cause they seem to only sing in a higher range.

Links.

Petra - Whole World (higher notes around 2:35-2:45)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F5Vhzzzh5w

Head East - Never Been Any Reason (note, he's not first one to sing here, he comes in at 60 seconds and 1:52)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zFrfHI-cN8

Geddy Lee (Rush) - Spirit of The Radio (all the way through, excellent drumming by the way! :D )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tq-UsaRchI

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:59 pm
by conversationpc
Schlitt is comparable. Similar range and tone to Perry. Actually, if Journey had decided to move on in '87 when Perry quite, Schlitt would've been a good choice.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:03 pm
by Rip Rokken
John Schlitt is awesome, and sounds perfect on the Petra Farewell live CD that came out only a few years ago. One of my favorite vocalists.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:16 pm
by conversationpc
RipRokken wrote:John Schlitt is awesome, and sounds perfect on the Petra Farewell live CD that came out only a few years ago. One of my favorite vocalists.


The first time I heard a Petra song, from the "On Fire!" album, I thought it sounded a lot like Journey.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:41 am
by (Crazy)Dulce Lady
conversationpc wrote:
RipRokken wrote:John Schlitt is awesome, and sounds perfect on the Petra Farewell live CD that came out only a few years ago. One of my favorite vocalists.


The first time I heard a Petra song, from the "On Fire!" album, I thought it sounded a lot like Journey.


me too.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:24 am
by LazzMan
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
RipRokken wrote:John Schlitt is awesome, and sounds perfect on the Petra Farewell live CD that came out only a few years ago. One of my favorite vocalists.


The first time I heard a Petra song, from the "On Fire!" album, I thought it sounded a lot like Journey.


me too.


If I were putting a band together I would absolutely start with John and build around him. He's a very rare talent and can still hit most of the notes even in his late-50's.

Geddy Lee IS Rush. He's got good range but, he's more of a 'chirper' than a crooner. About the only comparison that I can think of between Lee and Perry is the schnoz. :)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:28 am
by Greg
Of course John is around the same age as Steve Perry. Talent wise, I think he'd be great for Journey. However, he has always seemed to make music more for his ministry. I highly doubt Schon and Cain would accept Christian lyrics.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:25 am
by Rip Rokken
Greg wrote:Of course John is around the same age as Steve Perry. Talent wise, I think he'd be great for Journey. However, he has always seemed to make music more for his ministry. I highly doubt Schon and Cain would accept Christian lyrics.


I'm sure John would never be interested in a secular band again, but it is interesting how many people hear "Christian" themes in some of Journey's recent music.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:52 am
by StoneCold
conversationpc wrote:
RipRokken wrote:John Schlitt is awesome, and sounds perfect on the Petra Farewell live CD that came out only a few years ago. One of my favorite vocalists.


The first time I heard a Petra song, from the "On Fire!" album, I thought it sounded a lot like Journey.


conversationpc wrote:
RipRokken wrote:John Schlitt is awesome, and sounds perfect on the Petra Farewell live CD that came out only a few years ago. One of my favorite vocalists.


The first time I heard a Petra song, from the "On Fire!" album, I thought it sounded a lot like Journey.


Here's the tracks from "On Fire!", which song do you think it was? I'd like to check it out.

SIDE 1
All Fired Up
Hit You Where You Live
Mine Field
First Love
Defector
SIDE 2
Counsel Of The Holy
Somebody's Gonna Praise His Name
Open Book
Stand In The Gap
Homeless Few

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:25 am
by WickedGail
Geez!
I know Halloween is comming and what are you trying to do scare me half to death? The idea of my wonderful beloved Geddy Lee in the same sentence having anything to do with Journey is worse than the thought of a 500 pound woman showing up at my door as Lady Godiva trick or treatring! YIKES!!!!!! :shock: :roll: Please :twisted:

Gail

Stone Cold ...Dude....????

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:18 pm
by PennyA
I love Perry...love Getty...but get real dude. Those two names dont belong in the same sentence. Ever been to a Rush concert where Lee has been singing live for over an hour ? It gets bad...REAl bad

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:27 pm
by conversationpc
StoneCold wrote:Here's the tracks from "On Fire!", which song do you think it was? I'd like to check it out.

SIDE 1
All Fired Up
Hit You Where You Live
Mine Field
First Love
Defector
SIDE 2
Counsel Of The Holy
Somebody's Gonna Praise His Name
Open Book
Stand In The Gap
Homeless Few


I don't remember which tune it was but all the songs on that album are good ones. Schlitt sings the heck out of all of them.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:47 pm
by Rick
Perry was the man, but he started struggling during Departure. I don't know how anyone could sing those atmospheric notes day after day and be able to continue. I don't think anyone can sing that catalog for very long.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:16 pm
by LazzMan
conversationpc wrote:
StoneCold wrote:Here's the tracks from "On Fire!", which song do you think it was? I'd like to check it out.

SIDE 1
All Fired Up
Hit You Where You Live
Mine Field
First Love
Defector
SIDE 2
Counsel Of The Holy
Somebody's Gonna Praise His Name
Open Book
Stand In The Gap
Homeless Few


I don't remember which tune it was but all the songs on that album are good ones. Schlitt sings the heck out of all of them.


I'm not sure if any of these sound like Journey tunes. There is definitely an '80's, glam-metal feel to all of these songs. However, if you've never heard Petra, download a couple of these and take a listen. From this album, I would recommend "All Fired Up", "Hit You Where You Live", or "Counsel of The Holy". This is John's first record with Petra and his vocals will BLOW you away. It's a shame. If Petra were a secular band, they could have easily been the band of the '80's. Bigger than any of those other earring clad, spandex wearing, heavy make-up, Aqua Net big hair & mullet bands. Kudos to them for not selling out.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:44 pm
by chf34jmac
I'm betting that Jon Cain's slit can still hit those high notes. Even after being drilled wide open by Neal. :shock:

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:49 pm
by conversationpc
LazzMan wrote:I'm not sure if any of these sound like Journey tunes. There is definitely an '80's, glam-metal feel to all of these songs. However, if you've never heard Petra, download a couple of these and take a listen. From this album, I would recommend "All Fired Up", "Hit You Where You Live", or "Counsel of The Holy". This is John's first record with Petra and his vocals will BLOW you away. It's a shame. If Petra were a secular band, they could have easily been the band of the '80's. Bigger than any of those other earring clad, spandex wearing, heavy make-up, Aqua Net big hair & mullet bands. Kudos to them for not selling out.


Keep in mind that I wasn't much of a Journey fan until the mid to late 90s. All I knew back then were songs like DSB, Open Arms, etc.

Petra was great. From '87 through the mid 90s, they were on top of their game.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:03 pm
by strangegrey
Beyond Belief is a great album....Creed still gives me the chills...

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:09 pm
by conversationpc
strangegrey wrote:Beyond Belief is a great album....Creed still gives me the chills...


That's my favorite album of theirs and still in my top 20 all time.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:04 pm
by StoneCold
LazzMan wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
StoneCold wrote:Here's the tracks from "On Fire!", which song do you think it was? I'd like to check it out.

SIDE 1
All Fired Up
Hit You Where You Live
Mine Field
First Love
Defector
SIDE 2
Counsel Of The Holy
Somebody's Gonna Praise His Name
Open Book
Stand In The Gap
Homeless Few


I don't remember which tune it was but all the songs on that album are good ones. Schlitt sings the heck out of all of them.


I'm not sure if any of these sound like Journey tunes. There is definitely an '80's, glam-metal feel to all of these songs. However, if you've never heard Petra, download a couple of these and take a listen. From this album, I would recommend "All Fired Up", "Hit You Where You Live", or "Counsel of The Holy". This is John's first record with Petra and his vocals will BLOW you away. It's a shame. If Petra were a secular band, they could have easily been the band of the '80's. Bigger than any of those other earring clad, spandex wearing, heavy make-up, Aqua Net big hair & mullet bands. Kudos to them for not selling out.


I thought "Back To The Street" was his first one? 1986 I think. Those are some rockin' tunes though.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:08 pm
by StoneCold
conversationpc wrote:
strangegrey wrote:Beyond Belief is a great album....Creed still gives me the chills...


That's my favorite album of theirs and still in my top 20 all time.


This could end up as a new topic but what are your Top 20 albums? Or at least your Top 10.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:34 pm
by conversationpc
StoneCold wrote:I thought "Back To The Street" was his first one? 1986 I think. Those are some rockin' tunes though.


Yes, that was his first with Petra. Stylistically, "Back to the Street" was more like the previous albums with Greg X. Volz, who was a pretty good singer in his own right. They started going in the hard rock direction with "This Means War!" in 1987.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:35 pm
by conversationpc
StoneCold wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
strangegrey wrote:Beyond Belief is a great album....Creed still gives me the chills...


That's my favorite album of theirs and still in my top 20 all time.


This could end up as a new topic but what are your Top 20 albums? Or at least your Top 10.


I will start a new one...

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:34 am
by Rip Rokken
conversationpc wrote:
StoneCold wrote:I thought "Back To The Street" was his first one? 1986 I think. Those are some rockin' tunes though.


Yes, that was his first with Petra. Stylistically, "Back to the Street" was more like the previous albums with Greg X. Volz, who was a pretty good singer in his own right. They started going in the hard rock direction with "This Means War!" in 1987.


Absolutely right -- "Back to the Street" was very much in the style of the later Volz albums. Greg returns on their Firewall live disc, if you haven't heard it yet -- "Graverobber" and "Not Of This World" are two of my favorite Volz songs, and a couple of the most beautiful acoustic guitar songs I've ever heard.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:45 am
by Rip Rokken
Rick wrote:Perry was the man, but he started struggling during Departure. I don't know how anyone could sing those atmospheric notes day after day and be able to continue. I don't think anyone can sing that catalog for very long.


I was an 80's child, and really got into Journey when Frontiers hit. Of course I am familiar with all the older hits, but never really listened to the earlier albums that much. I do notice that on the later albums (especially TBF), Steve's voice is just surrounded by effects -- I've referred to it as "encapsulated by effects" -- check out songs like "Message of Love", and songs where the vocal effects even lead into and follow his vocals. Gives it an other-worldly quality that is hard to duplicate if you sing them live without them. This may strictly be for the sake of the sound, and of course it comes off great, but maybe it was getting harder for him to sing the songs straight up? I dunno... Effects are also used of course to cover stuff up. They seem to have cut way back on them during Augeri's albums.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:11 am
by conversationpc
RipRokken wrote:Absolutely right -- "Back to the Street" was very much in the style of the later Volz albums. Greg returns on their Firewall live disc, if you haven't heard it yet -- "Graverobber" and "Not Of This World" are two of my favorite Volz songs, and a couple of the most beautiful acoustic guitar songs I've ever heard.


"Road to Zion" and "More Power to Ya" are also two pretty good acoustic tracks. "Mary's Song" from "Washes Whiter Than" is another one that comes to mind.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:19 am
by Greg
Speaking of Petra, do you know if they will be coming out with a greatest hits album anytime soon? It would probably have to be a boxset for all the albums they have released over the years.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:30 am
by conversationpc
Greg wrote:Speaking of Petra, do you know if they will be coming out with a greatest hits album anytime soon? It would probably have to be a boxset for all the albums they have released over the years.


That's one really annoying thing about their previous record company, Star Song. After Petra moved to another label, Star Song released like 6 or 7 "best of" compilations: Petra Means Rock, War and Remembrance, Petraphonics, and a few others.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:39 am
by Greg
conversationpc wrote:
Greg wrote:Speaking of Petra, do you know if they will be coming out with a greatest hits album anytime soon? It would probably have to be a boxset for all the albums they have released over the years.


That's one really annoying thing about their previous record company, Star Song. After Petra moved to another label, Star Song released like 6 or 7 "best of" compilations: Petra Means Rock, War and Remembrance, Petraphonics, and a few others.


I really didn't care for any of those compliations. I didn't really care for "Double Take" either. I guess Petra was trying to release a sort of "acoustic" album of their top hits, but I just didn't like it. Luckily I have most of their stuff, so I can just make my own "boxset". :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:43 am
by finalfight
Geddy could probably screech something in a similar key but to actually sing I think might be beyond him.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:29 am
by StoneCold
finalfight wrote:Geddy could probably screech something in a similar key but to actually sing I think might be beyond him.


Ha, he and "Screech" have the same nose!

Amazing how well Lee's done with a semi limited voice.

No denying he's a good singer just in a shorter range.