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Clear Channel refusing to play new music from old artists?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:33 am
by AR
Thought this might be worthy of discussion:


Clear Channel More Interested In Playing Old Music Than Music By Old People

Fox 411 columnist and Jann Wenner enemy Roger Friedman is alleging that the radio monopolists at Clear Channel have flat-out told the programmers at their rock stations that they can't play tracks from Bruce Springsteen's Magic, despite the album being No. 1 on the charts last week. Songs from the Boss' vault, like "Born To Run" and "Born In The USA," are OK, and that's causing Friedman to cry ageism:

Clear Channel seems to have sent a clear message to other radio outlets that at age 58, Springsteen simply is too old to be played on rock stations. This completely absurd notion is one of many ways Clear Channel has done more to destroy the music business than downloading over the last 10 years. It's certainly what's helped create satellite radio, where Springsteen is a staple and even has his own channel on Sirius.

It's not just Springsteen. There is no sign at major radio stations of new albums by John Fogerty or Annie Lennox, either. The same stations that should be playing Santana's new singles with Chad Kroeger or Tina Turner are avoiding them, too.

Like Springsteen, these "older" artists have been relegated to something called Triple A format stations -- i.e. either college radio or small artsy stations such as WFUV in the Bronx, N.Y., which are immune from the Clear Channel virus of pre-programming and where the number of plays per song is a fraction of what it is on commercial radio.

http://idolator.com/tunes/ageism%3F/cle ... 316765.php

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:42 am
by RedWingFan
Oh yeah. That's why I never listen to secular radio stations! Thanks for reminding me AR! :D

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:52 am
by Indyjoe
RaiderFan wrote:Oh yeah. That's why I never listen to secular radio stations! Thanks for reminding me AR! :D


Off topic for a minute... Have you ever seen Aaron Shust?! He's great live!!

Carry on...

~Wendy

Re: Clear Channel refusing to play new music from old artist

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:02 am
by Indyjoe
AR wrote:Thought this might be worthy of discussion:


Clear Channel More Interested In Playing Old Music Than Music By Old People

Fox 411 columnist and Jann Wenner enemy Roger Friedman is alleging that the radio monopolists at Clear Channel have flat-out told the programmers at their rock stations that they can't play tracks from Bruce Springsteen's Magic, despite the album being No. 1 on the charts last week. Songs from the Boss' vault, like "Born To Run" and "Born In The USA," are OK, and that's causing Friedman to cry ageism:

Clear Channel seems to have sent a clear message to other radio outlets that at age 58, Springsteen simply is too old to be played on rock stations. This completely absurd notion is one of many ways Clear Channel has done more to destroy the music business than downloading over the last 10 years. It's certainly what's helped create satellite radio, where Springsteen is a staple and even has his own channel on Sirius.

It's not just Springsteen. There is no sign at major radio stations of new albums by John Fogerty or Annie Lennox, either. The same stations that should be playing Santana's new singles with Chad Kroeger or Tina Turner are avoiding them, too.

Like Springsteen, these "older" artists have been relegated to something called Triple A format stations -- i.e. either college radio or small artsy stations such as WFUV in the Bronx, N.Y., which are immune from the Clear Channel virus of pre-programming and where the number of plays per song is a fraction of what it is on commercial radio.

http://idolator.com/tunes/ageism%3F/cle ... 316765.php


I just don't get their logic in this?!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:19 am
by Ehwmatt
I'm surprised they're doing this to Springsteen... I always put him in the category of classic rock artists that transcended the age jokes and such.

Re: Clear Channel refusing to play new music from old artist

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:33 am
by amaron
AR wrote:Thought this might be worthy of discussion:


Clear Channel More Interested In Playing Old Music Than Music By Old People

Fox 411 columnist and Jann Wenner enemy Roger Friedman is alleging that the radio monopolists at Clear Channel have flat-out told the programmers at their rock stations that they can't play tracks from Bruce Springsteen's Magic, despite the album being No. 1 on the charts last week. Songs from the Boss' vault, like "Born To Run" and "Born In The USA," are OK, and that's causing Friedman to cry ageism:

Clear Channel seems to have sent a clear message to other radio outlets that at age 58, Springsteen simply is too old to be played on rock stations. This completely absurd notion is one of many ways Clear Channel has done more to destroy the music business than downloading over the last 10 years. It's certainly what's helped create satellite radio, where Springsteen is a staple and even has his own channel on Sirius.

It's not just Springsteen. There is no sign at major radio stations of new albums by John Fogerty or Annie Lennox, either. The same stations that should be playing Santana's new singles with Chad Kroeger or Tina Turner are avoiding them, too.

Like Springsteen, these "older" artists have been relegated to something called Triple A format stations -- i.e. either college radio or small artsy stations such as WFUV in the Bronx, N.Y., which are immune from the Clear Channel virus of pre-programming and where the number of plays per song is a fraction of what it is on commercial radio.

http://idolator.com/tunes/ageism%3F/cle ... 316765.php


This isn't anything new sadly.

This is also why I continue to say that Journey has no shot of a legitimate hit record, even with Steve Perry.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:57 am
by WalrusOct9
This has been going on for 10 years at least. I'm not sure why it's suddenly news now, but no real music fan I've ever met has listened to terrestrial radio in well over a decade anyway.

It's just sad...Elton, Bruce, the Stones, etc, have all made incredible albums in the last few years that no one has bothered to listen to.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:02 am
by ebake02
I wonder where these assholes got this logic from.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:03 am
by Angiekay


Crazy...that's why(well, one of MANY reasons)Clear Channel sucks. We play "past and present" sets all the time. Springsteen, Scorpions, McCartney, John Fogerty, Boston, Rush etc.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:23 am
by conversationpc
Angiekay wrote:

Crazy...that's why(well, one of MANY reasons)Clear Channel sucks. We play "past and present" sets all the time. Springsteen, Scorpions, McCartney, John Fogerty, Boston, Rush etc.



Q95 here in Indianapolis used to do that. I haven't listened to them much lately, though, so I'm not sure if they still do it. They do carry Alice Cooper's show, though.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:48 am
by ProgRocker53
I haven't listened to radio in three years. The lack of depth, freshness, and originality to radio programming was getting tiresome.

Still a damn shame.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:52 am
by belar
I don't listen to the radio anymore, either. What's the point?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:05 am
by FishinMagician
they play Bon Jovi's new CD all the time, and they played Cain's duet version of Faithfully

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:08 am
by journeyrock
belar wrote:I don't listen to the radio anymore, either. What's the point?
There is no point. I don't listen to it either and here's the reason. None of them play "music" anymore, in my humble opinion. And the classic stations play the old stuff. I can listen to the old stuff when I want, what I want on CD's or ipod, so why would i listen to the mainstream radio. I can't stand the new stuff.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:20 am
by Moon Beam
Fishinmagician wrote:they play Bon Jovi's new CD all the time, and they played Cain's duet version of Faithfully




Wow.........now that must really be saying something. :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:45 am
by FishinMagician
Moon Beam wrote:
Fishinmagician wrote:they play Bon Jovi's new CD all the time, and they played Cain's duet version of Faithfully




Wow.........now that must really be saying something. :lol: :lol:


Lol, what? you don't like the extra verse? haha :P

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:49 am
by RedWingFan
Indyjoe wrote:
RaiderFan wrote:Oh yeah. That's why I never listen to secular radio stations! Thanks for reminding me AR! :D


Off topic for a minute... Have you ever seen Aaron Shust?! He's great live!!

Carry on...

~Wendy

No, haven't had the chance yet. I love "More Wonderful" though, that cd is strong. I just picked up his latest release but haven't had time to listen to it much.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:26 am
by Marc S
RaiderFan wrote:Oh yeah. That's why I never listen to secular radio stations! Thanks for reminding me AR! :D


WTF? Interested to hear the relevance of secular/non-secular aspect to this......? :roll:

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:35 am
by conversationpc
RaiderFan wrote:Oh yeah. That's why I never listen to secular radio stations! Thanks for reminding me AR! :D


Christian radio stations are even worse when it comes to this kind of stuff.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:54 am
by RedWingFan
conversationpc wrote:
RaiderFan wrote:Oh yeah. That's why I never listen to secular radio stations! Thanks for reminding me AR! :D


Christian radio stations are even worse when it comes to this kind of stuff.

Christian radio stations play new music every day. SCC, Crowns, etc... I get to sample new music there instead of being stuck in the 80's. :D

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:57 am
by RedWingFan
Marc S wrote:
RaiderFan wrote:Oh yeah. That's why I never listen to secular radio stations! Thanks for reminding me AR! :D


WTF? Interested to hear the relevance of secular/non-secular aspect to this......? :roll:

Who asked you? Don't you have a thread to trash the troops and talk about the positives of the terrorists somewhere? :roll:

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:09 am
by Marc S
RaiderFan wrote:
Marc S wrote:
RaiderFan wrote:Oh yeah. That's why I never listen to secular radio stations! Thanks for reminding me AR! :D


WTF? Interested to hear the relevance of secular/non-secular aspect to this......? :roll:

Who asked you? Don't you have a thread to trash the troops and talk about the positives of the terrorists somewhere? :roll:


Its an open forum is it not? You mean you aren't going to justify your statement?

You do yourself no favours with your accusations (like I give a fuck) - but please, be my guest - produce one single line where I openly 'trash troops' or promote the 'positives of terrorists'. It might suit you to think that. :roll:

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:13 am
by RedWingFan
Marc S wrote:
RaiderFan wrote:
Marc S wrote:
RaiderFan wrote:Oh yeah. That's why I never listen to secular radio stations! Thanks for reminding me AR! :D


WTF? Interested to hear the relevance of secular/non-secular aspect to this......? :roll:

Who asked you? Don't you have a thread to trash the troops and talk about the positives of the terrorists somewhere? :roll:


Its an open forum is it not? You mean you aren't going to justify your statement?

You do yourself no favours with your accusations (like I give a fuck) - but please, be my guest - produce one single line where I openly 'trash troops' or promote the 'positives of terrorists'. It might suit you to think that. :roll:

You've already exposed yourself in another thread. Everyone knows you, including a veteran who took offense to you.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:13 am
by styxman
Radio over here is on the up...BBC Radio 2, has depth,music and chat and not one fuckin' commercial. We had a slight problem with Radio not wanting to play Status Quo or Cliff Richard...for those of you that have heard these two, radio was spot on in cutting them out...party on :wink:

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:14 am
by RedWingFan
styxman wrote:Radio over here is on the up...BBC Radio 2, has depth,music and chat and not one fuckin' commercial. We had a slight problem with Radio not wanting to play Status Quo or Cliff Richard...for those of you that have heard these two, radio was spot on in cutting them out...party on :wink:

Dude, where the hell have you been? :D

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:16 am
by Rick
RaiderFan wrote:
styxman wrote:Radio over here is on the up...BBC Radio 2, has depth,music and chat and not one fuckin' commercial. We had a slight problem with Radio not wanting to play Status Quo or Cliff Richard...for those of you that have heard these two, radio was spot on in cutting them out...party on :wink:

Dude, where the hell have you been? :D


Yeah, what he said. You can't just disappear for two weeks and then come waltzing back in here and lay out some lame statement about your radio being on the up. We want explanations dammit! :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:25 am
by styxman
I've been working hard to pay for these Soto tickets in Glasgow, he'd better be fuckin' good :wink:

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:29 am
by Rick
styxman wrote:I've been working hard to pay for these Soto tickets in Glasgow, he'd better be fuckin' good :wink:


You're going to love it. Have fun bro.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:32 am
by Deb
styxman wrote:I've been working hard to pay for these Soto tickets in Glasgow, he'd better be fuckin' good :wink:


No worries there Styxie, he'll kick your ass! :mrgreen:

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:33 am
by styxman
Rick wrote:
styxman wrote:I've been working hard to pay for these Soto tickets in Glasgow, he'd better be fuckin' good :wink:


You're going to love it. Have fun bro.


I know, can't wait :wink: