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I wanted to send this link to everyone for their information.
It concerns the movie "The Golden Compass" that is being
marketed to kids. It has anti-religious themes and opens just before Christmas...

http://snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp

What has happened to Nicole Kidman?
she's kind of evil I think, she made that
weird movie with Tom that basically wrecked her marriage
and then the one with Anthony Hopkins that was so freaky.

I think church can do more damage than a movie can.

Blondie wrote:I wanted to send this link to everyone for their information.
It concerns the movie "The Golden Compass" that is being
marketed to kids. It has anti-religious themes and opens just before Christmas...

http://snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp

I appreciate the info. I will check it out. Thanks!

~Wendy

It's just a movie. It won't undo the values you instill in your child any more than a slasher flick will turn them into a killer.

BobbyinTN wrote:I think church can do more damage than a movie can.

Depends on what kind of church you're talking about.

NealIsGod wrote:It's just a movie. It won't undo the values you instill in your child any more than a slasher flick will turn them into a killer.

Like anything, it depends on the child. Some kids can handle and recognize it for what it is and others can't.

This reminds me of Jerry Falwell trying to have the Teletubbies banned because he thought Tinky Winky was blatantly gay and therefore a bad influence.

A lot of churches also said children shouldn't be allowed to read or see Harry Potter because it taught witchcraft.

All forms of extremism are threatening to freedom.

The man actually states "My books are about killing God." And there is no problem with that?

ohsherrie wrote:This reminds me of Jerry Falwell trying to have the Teletubbies banned because he thought Tinky Winky was blatantly gay and therefore a bad influence.

A lot of churches also said children shouldn't be allowed to read or see Harry Potter because it taught witchcraft.

All forms of extremism are threatening to freedom.

I think some parents just like to blame the media too much for their kids' shortcomings and their lack of parenting skills.

Greg wrote:The man actually states "My books are about killing God." And there is no problem with that?

Then don't let your kids read it. And explain to them that the author will be poked in the ass with a pitchfork for eternity.

NealIsGod wrote:

Greg wrote:The man actually states "My books are about killing God." And there is no problem with that?

Then don't let your kids read it. And explain to them that the author will be poked in the ass with a pitchfork for eternity.

I think it's up to parents to decide what they consider suitable within the belief system they choose to raise their children into. I don't think anyone has the right to try and impose the values within their particular belief on society as a whole or even to assume that all of society will agree with them.

ohsherrie wrote:I think it's up to parents to decide what they consider suitable within the belief system they choose to raise their children into. I don't think anyone has the right to try and impose the values within their particular belief on society as a whole or even to assume that all of society will agree with them.

Obviously, that's what we have = Freedom of Speech.

Tyler wrote:

ohsherrie wrote:I think it's up to parents to decide what they consider suitable within the belief system they choose to raise their children into. I don't think anyone has the right to try and impose the values within their particular belief on society as a whole or even to assume that all of society will agree with them.

Obviously, that's what we have = Freedom of Speech.

Yes, and also Freedom of Religion and separation of church and state.

ohsherrie wrote:I think it's up to parents to decide what they consider suitable within the belief system they choose to raise their children into. I don't think anyone has the right to try and impose the values within their particular belief on society as a whole or even to assume that all of society will agree with them.

I agree. Which is why I would never go see this movie. This IS the agenda of this author.

ohsherrie wrote:I think it's up to parents to decide what they consider suitable within the belief system they choose to raise their children into. I don't think anyone has the right to try and impose the values within their particular belief on society as a whole or even to assume that all of society will agree with them.

Bingo.

Here's snopes.com's view on the subject:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp

Greg wrote:The man actually states "My books are about killing God." And there is no problem with that?

That's a pretty tall order, anyone seen him recently, like in Macdonalds or Burger King, maybe a shopping Mall or at a ball game

I'll only watch the film as Kidman has a nice little see through dress on, so for me it'll make me horny not want to go kill God

styxman wrote:

Greg wrote:The man actually states "My books are about killing God." And there is no problem with that?

That's a pretty tall order, anyone seen him recently, like in Macdonalds or Burger King, maybe a shopping Mall or at a ball game

I'll only watch the film as Kidman has a nice little see through dress on, so for me it'll make me horny not want to go kill God

I hear ya! Every chance I get to see Nicole Kidman, I just want to say to Tom Cruise "STUPID!!!"

I think what the author means by his agenda of "killing God" is erasing any thought of God in the minds of kids who reads his books.

Playitloudforme wrote:

ohsherrie wrote:I think it's up to parents to decide what they consider suitable within the belief system they choose to raise their children into. I don't think anyone has the right to try and impose the values within their particular belief on society as a whole or even to assume that all of society will agree with them.

Bingo.

Here's snopes.com's view on the subject:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp

I read that but without reading the books themselves it's hard to have an opinion on the material itself. Some of them say he's anti-God and others say he's anti-religion. There's a difference.

Whatever his beliefs, if his intent is the infiltration of them into society by influencing children, then I think it's wrong.

But then, that's also how I feel about teaching religion in public schools.

The following takes place 15 years from now:

Sara: Hi, Karen! I haven't seen you in years!!! How is little Chauncey?

Karen: Not so good, Sara. I let him watch "The Golden Compass" when he was 5, and boy, was THAT a bad decision.

Sara: Why? What happened to him?

Karen: He devoted his life to trying to find God.

Sara: That sounds like a good thing to me!

Karen: No, he's trying to find Him to kill Him! I knew I should have stuck a Barney DVD in the player that day.

Sara: So is he still trying to kill God?

Karen: Yeah, but God had the last laugh. He hid where no one would find Him.

Sara: Where is that?

Karen: In the audience of a Styx concert.

Sara: It's been working for bin Laden for the last 21 years!

NealIsGod wrote:The following takes place 15 years from now:

Sara: Hi, Karen! I haven't seen you in years!!! How is little Chauncey?

Karen: Not so good, Sara. I let him watch "The Golden Compass" when he was 5, and boy, was THAT a bad decision.

Sara: Why? What happened to him?

Karen: He devoted his life to trying to find God.

Sara: That sounds like a good thing to me!

Karen: No, he's trying to find Him to kill Him! I knew I should have stuck a Barney DVD in the player that day.

Sara: So is he still trying to kill God?

Karen: Yeah, but God had the last laugh. He hid where no one would find Him.

Sara: Where is that?

Karen: In the audience of a Styx concert.

Sara: It's been working for bin Laden for the last 21 years!

NealIsGod wrote:Karen: Yeah, but God had the last laugh. He hid where no one would find Him.

Sara: Where is that?

Karen: In the audience of a Styx concert.

Sara: It's been working for bin Laden for the last 21 years!

On the contrary, it would be too easy to find him in the audience of a Styx concert, considering how small the audience is these days.

NealIsGod wrote:The following takes place 15 years from now:

Sara: Hi, Karen! I haven't seen you in years!!! How is little Chauncey?

Karen: Not so good, Sara. I let him watch "The Golden Compass" when he was 5, and boy, was THAT a bad decision.

Sara: Why? What happened to him?

Karen: He devoted his life to trying to find God.

Sara: That sounds like a good thing to me!

Karen: No, he's trying to find Him to kill Him! I knew I should have stuck a Barney DVD in the player that day.

Sara: So is he still trying to kill God?

Karen: Yeah, but God had the last laugh. He hid where no one would find Him.

Sara: Where is that?

Karen: In the audience of a Styx concert.

Sara: It's been working for bin Laden for the last 21 years!

conversationpc wrote:

NealIsGod wrote:Karen: Yeah, but God had the last laugh. He hid where no one would find Him.

Sara: Where is that?

Karen: In the audience of a Styx concert.

Sara: It's been working for bin Laden for the last 21 years!

On the contrary, it would be too easy to find him in the audience of a Styx concert, considering how small the audience is these days.

Guess it went over your head. The audience is so small that it is non-existent, so nobody would be there to look for him.

Sheesh!

It's funnier if you plug in "Journey featuring Arnel" anyway.

NealIsGod wrote:

conversationpc wrote:

NealIsGod wrote:Karen: Yeah, but God had the last laugh. He hid where no one would find Him.

Sara: Where is that?

Karen: In the audience of a Styx concert.

Sara: It's been working for bin Laden for the last 21 years!

On the contrary, it would be too easy to find him in the audience of a Styx concert, considering how small the audience is these days.

Guess it went over your head. The audience is so small that it is non-existent, so nobody would be there to look for him.

Sheesh!

No, I got it. Just turning it around. Yours was funny, though, so just ignore mine.

NealIsGod wrote:It's just a movie. It won't undo the values you instill in your child any more than a slasher flick will turn them into a killer.

I think little kids could get confused about things, but I do agree with you about values not getting undone.

I like having info on any movie before I take my kids to see it.

Indyjoe wrote:

NealIsGod wrote:It's just a movie. It won't undo the values you instill in your child any more than a slasher flick will turn them into a killer.

I think little kids could get confused about things, but I do agree with you about values not getting undone.

I like having info on any movie before I take my kids to see it.

I started reading Stephen King books at the age of 8 and look where it got me...

Jeremey wrote:

Indyjoe wrote:

NealIsGod wrote:It's just a movie. It won't undo the values you instill in your child any more than a slasher flick will turn them into a killer.

I think little kids could get confused about things, but I do agree with you about values not getting undone.

I like having info on any movie before I take my kids to see it.

I started reading Stephen King books at the age of 8 and look where it got me...

So did those keep you awake at night, too, or was that just from listening to Priest?

Jeremey wrote:

Indyjoe wrote:

NealIsGod wrote:It's just a movie. It won't undo the values you instill in your child any more than a slasher flick will turn them into a killer.

I think little kids could get confused about things, but I do agree with you about values not getting undone.

I like having info on any movie before I take my kids to see it.

I started reading Stephen King books at the age of 8 and look where it got me...

Yeah, if you would have stuck with "Everybody Poops" you would be much better adjusted.

conversationpc wrote:
So did those keep you awake at night, too, or was that just from listening to Priest?

I was the quintessential nerd who would read with a flashlight under the blankets! The Priest affected me more in an OCD way, where I couldn't get the tunes out of my head. It could still happen today if I went back and listened to my Metalogy box set for more than a few hours. That and the 14 year old hormones.