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OT: Van Halen's tech glitch at the Greensboro show

Postby *Laura » Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:50 am

This must be the most painful sound that my ears have been exposed to in a LONG time. :shock:

http://www.realrocknews.com/blog/technical-glitch-haunts-van-halens-greensboro-show/


Here's what the techs say: http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2007/10/van-halens-jump.html
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Postby finalfight » Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:08 am

Holy heck, that was absolutely atrocious. The guitar was completely off. DLR sounded surprisingly good though and held the whole mess together as best possible.
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Postby Rick » Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:11 am

Somebody at work was telling me about that. I'm sure they had a big laugh about it after the show.
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Postby *Laura » Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:15 am

finalfight wrote: DLR sounded surprisingly good though and held the whole mess together as best possible.

True.However,they should have stopped and fix the goddamned problem instead of carrying on like that.
I'm sure the audience would have been ok with that.Shit happens in live shows sometimes,no big deal.
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Ouch!

Postby daytrpr » Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:57 am

Wow...that was horrible.

Something similar (but worse) happened when I saw Bad English (Seattle in 1989 or 90). They started the concert, and Neal's amp and a couple of mics were out. They just kept going - no guitar and missing backing vocals - for 4 songs or so until it got fixed. It really sucked.

At Mountain Aire in 1986 (best concert ever), Jon's guitar died on Stone in Love or one of those songs that he plays guitar on, so after yelling at the tech for a bit, he just gave up and played his part on the piano. It was actually pretty cool.
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Postby Rick » Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:59 am

*Laura wrote:
finalfight wrote: DLR sounded surprisingly good though and held the whole mess together as best possible.

True.However,they should have stopped and fix the goddamned problem instead of carrying on like that.
I'm sure the audience would have been ok with that.Shit happens in live shows sometimes,no big deal.


I'm not sure I care for your language young lady! :lol: :wink:
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Postby Rhiannon » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:09 am

Rick wrote:
*Laura wrote:
finalfight wrote: DLR sounded surprisingly good though and held the whole mess together as best possible.

True.However,they should have stopped and fix the goddamned problem instead of carrying on like that.
I'm sure the audience would have been ok with that.Shit happens in live shows sometimes,no big deal.


I'm not sure I care for your language young lady! :lol: :wink:


It is true, Rick. Shit DOES happen. :P
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Postby Rick » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:19 am

Blue Radio Girl wrote:
Rick wrote:
*Laura wrote:
finalfight wrote: DLR sounded surprisingly good though and held the whole mess together as best possible.

True.However,they should have stopped and fix the goddamned problem instead of carrying on like that.
I'm sure the audience would have been ok with that.Shit happens in live shows sometimes,no big deal.


I'm not sure I care for your language young lady! :lol: :wink:


It is true, Rick. Shit DOES happen. :P


It sure does. It happened here right after I got home from work. :lol: I'm just yanking Laura's chain.
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Re: Ouch!

Postby mistiejourney » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:20 am

daytrpr wrote:Wow...that was horrible.

Something similar (but worse) happened when I saw Bad English (Seattle in 1989 or 90). They started the concert, and Neal's amp and a couple of mics were out. They just kept going - no guitar and missing backing vocals - for 4 songs or so until it got fixed. It really sucked.

At Mountain Aire in 1986 (best concert ever), Jon's guitar died on Stone in Love or one of those songs that he plays guitar on, so after yelling at the tech for a bit, he just gave up and played his part on the piano. It was actually pretty cool.


Hey!!! I was there, about the equivalent of ten rows back, center stage. I have no memory of this happening at all! :D I was stone cold sober, as a matter of fact. I guess I just had my eyes on Steve the entire time. It was the first time I had seen Journey ever! :)
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Postby TRAGChick » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:21 am

1. Song is higher than the original

2. DLR DOES sound good. :shock:

3. Eddie's Guitar is flat.
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Postby WickedGail » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:42 am

You think that's a glich?

Look what happen to Alex of Rush at the last show in Helsinki Finland

!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZgP3dyUm6MRush - Far Cry in Helsinki, Finland

Frankly as a sound company owner we have so many people who simply aare shit at the work and shouldn't be working in the business, this problem should have been detected at soundcheck and resolved then!

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Postby conversationpc » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:03 am

WickedGail wrote:You think that's a glich?

Look what happen to Alex of Rush at the last show in Helsinki Finland

!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZgP3dyUm6MRush - Far Cry in Helsinki, Finland

Frankly as a sound company owner we have so many people who simply aare shit at the work and shouldn't be working in the business, this problem should have been detected at soundcheck and resolved then!

Gail


Well, who knows if this problem would have even shown up at soundcheck. Things can go wrong at any time. It may have worked perfect during soundcheck and just gone bad in the meantime.
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Postby Greg » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:39 am

I was at the concert, and honestly, by the time they played Jump (encore) I was so deaf that I couldn't hardly tell. I mean, that has to be the loudest concert I have ever been to! With that said, what I had read (and I can't remember where I read this at) is that it actually wasn't the guitar that was the problem, it was the taped keyboards. Apparently when they started playing the recorded keyboard parts, they were actually at a higher pitch than what they were suposed to have been at, while Eddie's guitar was tuned closer to what it should've been tuned at. Of course, according to the youtube videos, it does appear to be the other way around. But ya know, being there at the concert...it was still awesome and one of the best concerts I have ever attended!
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:08 pm

Greg wrote:I was at the concert, and honestly, by the time they played Jump (encore) I was so deaf that I couldn't hardly tell. I mean, that has to be the loudest concert I have ever been to! With that said, what I had read (and I can't remember where I read this at) is that it actually wasn't the guitar that was the problem, it was the taped keyboards. Apparently when they started playing the recorded keyboard parts, they were actually at a higher pitch than what they were suposed to have been at, while Eddie's guitar was tuned closer to what it should've been tuned at. Of course, according to the youtube videos, it does appear to be the other way around. But ya know, being there at the concert...it was still awesome and one of the best concerts I have ever attended!


After reading the comments on the link earlier in the thread it looks more like it was a problem with the guitar and that Eddie may have knocked it out of tune.
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Postby Greg » Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:15 pm

conversationpc wrote:
Greg wrote:I was at the concert, and honestly, by the time they played Jump (encore) I was so deaf that I couldn't hardly tell. I mean, that has to be the loudest concert I have ever been to! With that said, what I had read (and I can't remember where I read this at) is that it actually wasn't the guitar that was the problem, it was the taped keyboards. Apparently when they started playing the recorded keyboard parts, they were actually at a higher pitch than what they were suposed to have been at, while Eddie's guitar was tuned closer to what it should've been tuned at. Of course, according to the youtube videos, it does appear to be the other way around. But ya know, being there at the concert...it was still awesome and one of the best concerts I have ever attended!


After reading the comments on the link earlier in the thread it looks more like it was a problem with the guitar and that Eddie may have knocked it out of tune.


As much as he was jumping around on stage and acting like he was 20-something, that could possibly be the case. Still, it's amazing that being there, the fans didn't care. It still rocked.
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