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The Good Old Days (To be "Only The Young" again)

Posted:
Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:07 pm
by StoneCold

Posted:
Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:30 pm
by texafana
OMG!!! On the JSS version, you can hear Steve A's pre-recorded backing vox....wow.

Posted:
Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:43 pm
by Voyager
After watching this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf9de0uYuXU
I cannot blame Frigga and Fro for hiring Augeri. It was better than having no Journey at all. Let's face it - they waited over two years for Perry to plan a tour for TBF. We all wanted Journey to do something, and they did. It wasn't Perry, but it did have its good moments.


Posted:
Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:49 pm
by Voyager
It's really too bad that we won't get to see Jeremey with Journey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38_LQBbFfo8
Jeremey has the look and the sound that could have brought back the Perry feel to the band... much more than Augeri, JSS, or Arnel could have. Jeremey has the Perry-ish passion and energy... that's a fact. I just don't understand the logic they are using. I could have supported this version of Journey.


Posted:
Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:06 pm
by texafana
I'm noticing that JH sometimes sings too much "in the back of the throat", some remark this as "shrill"ing, etc. Man, if you listen to alot of JH, he seems very inconsistant in his Journey singing. Perhaps he's performing too much?

Posted:
Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:08 pm
by Voyager
Check out Augeri singing "Any Way You Want It":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XWM6xRQ3Ns
The only way it can get better than that is with Perry singing. Augeri had the goods.


Posted:
Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:11 pm
by Voyager
texafana wrote:I'm noticing that JH sometimes sings too much "in the back of the throat", some remark this as "shrill"ing, etc. Man, if you listen to alot of JH, he seems very inconsistant in his Journey singing. Perhaps he's performing too much?
He's as good as Augeri or better IMO, and he sounds more like Perry than JSS does. I think he has much more soul and depth than Arnel does, and more passion. Let's face it, the politics wouldn't let it happen. Our loss.


Posted:
Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:01 pm
by finalfight
Steve Augeri sounded absolutely great on that clip. Very melodic.

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:27 am
by NealIsGod
texafana wrote:I'm noticing that JH sometimes sings too much "in the back of the throat", some remark this as "shrill"ing, etc. Man, if you listen to alot of JH, he seems very inconsistant in his Journey singing. Perhaps he's performing too much?
I've heard nobody sing Journey as close to the way Perry sang it as J does, except maybe Jason Kelty. Obviously, Journey thought so, too.

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:07 am
by texafana
Don't get me wrong, when JH is on, I've heard NO NONE come closer to the "voice".

Augeri lives on?

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:03 am
by StoneCold
texafana wrote:OMG!!! On the JSS version, you can hear Steve A's pre-recorded backing vox....wow.
I never noticed that. I think I hear it at 00:39. Or is it Perry's backing vox?
Re: Augeri lives on?

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:17 am
by Deb
StoneCold wrote:texafana wrote:OMG!!! On the JSS version, you can hear Steve A's pre-recorded backing vox....wow.
I never noticed that. I think I hear it at 00:39. Or is it Perry's backing vox?
I thought it was Deen.
Love it, my second favorite Journey song after Still They Ride.

After watching those, I still maintain Perry and JSS were the best thing to happen to Journey, the 2 most unique and powerful vocalists/frontmen.


Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:33 am
by knox
Voyager wrote:It's really too bad that we won't get to see Jeremey with Journey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38_LQBbFfo8Jeremey has the look and the sound that could have brought back the Perry feel to the band... much more than Augeri, JSS, or Arnel could have. Jeremey has the Perry-ish passion and energy... that's a fact. I just don't understand the logic they are using. I could have supported this version of Journey.

Jeremey's voice sounds thin in this clip, almost tin like.
Nothing against the man himself, but Jeff has a lot more depth to his voice, it is stronger.
And Augeri STILL sounds to me like he was always hoarse.

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:09 am
by treetopovskaya
okay... that supremerainbow fool is now on my hit list. grr. what a jackass f-tard.
(read their comment referring to jss as a no talent)

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:14 am
by treetopovskaya
i like augeri... he was a good fit for journey. took a while but he grew on me. jeremey sounds like he's just trying to mimic steve perry. good voice though but i'm just not feeling it... not authentic enough. jss... he is just too good for journey & better off now. yay! }=C))

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:28 am
by Saint John
texafana wrote:OMG!!! On the JSS version, you can hear Steve A's pre-recorded backing vox....wow.
I suspect it was Deen. Deen had to help Jeff on a lot of the high parts.

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:30 am
by BobbyinTN
texafana wrote:Don't get me wrong, when JH is on, I've heard NO NONE come closer to the "voice".

Yeah. It's almost a voice between head and falsetto.
He's a really good singer, but I'm not crazy about the "throat/sinus/falsetto thing.

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:32 am
by Saint John
Voyager wrote:After watching this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf9de0uYuXUI cannot blame Frigga and Fro for hiring Augeri. It was better than having no Journey at all. Let's face it - they waited over two years for Perry to plan a tour for TBF. We all wanted Journey to do something, and they did. It wasn't Perry, but it did have its good moments.

And here is Augeri in 1998..in his "prime" with Journey. He misses note after note after note. And the ones he does hit are all flat. There were better guys out there, they just chose not to look hard enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0mouMt05g0

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:34 am
by larryfromnextdoor
Saint John wrote:texafana wrote:OMG!!! On the JSS version, you can hear Steve A's pre-recorded backing vox....wow.
I suspect it was Deen. Deen had to help Jeff on a lot of the high parts.

i dont think
help is the choice word... maybe
compliment the needs of the chorus...

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:42 am
by Saint John
larryfromnextdoor wrote:Saint John wrote:texafana wrote:OMG!!! On the JSS version, you can hear Steve A's pre-recorded backing vox....wow.
I suspect it was Deen. Deen had to help Jeff on a lot of the high parts.

i dont think
help is the choice word... maybe
compliment the needs of the chorus...
Complimentary help, perhaps?


Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:43 am
by larryfromnextdoor
Saint John wrote:larryfromnextdoor wrote:Saint John wrote:texafana wrote:OMG!!! On the JSS version, you can hear Steve A's pre-recorded backing vox....wow.
I suspect it was Deen. Deen had to help Jeff on a lot of the high parts.

i dont think
help is the choice word... maybe
compliment the needs of the chorus...
Complimentary help, perhaps?


.. watch it,, those singers are touchy....


Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:51 am
by knox
Augeri could not hit "with every heart beat" or "ask the lonely" in that 98 clip. Too much for his range.
Always straining, and always sounded hoarse. Never sounded comfortable and in control of the songs.

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:36 am
by Rick
treetopovskaya wrote:okay... that supremerainbow fool is now on my hit list. grr. what a jackass f-tard.
(read their comment referring to jss as a no talent)
I just gave him a shot back.


Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:41 am
by LAKERSFAN
knox wrote:Augeri could not hit "with every heart beat" or "ask the lonely" in that 98 clip. Too much for his range.
Always straining, and always sounded hoarse. Never sounded comfortable and in control of the songs.
To be fair, Soto strained on "generation" in that short clip. You can't hear him in the chorus as he's blended in to know if he hit the notes or not.

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:45 am
by Rick
LAKERSFAN wrote:knox wrote:Augeri could not hit "with every heart beat" or "ask the lonely" in that 98 clip. Too much for his range.
Always straining, and always sounded hoarse. Never sounded comfortable and in control of the songs.
To be fair, Soto strained on "generation" in that short clip. You can't hear him in the chorus as he's blended in to know if he hit the notes or not.
I don't know who wouldn't. I'd wind up shitting myself trying to hit that note.

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:45 am
by LAKERSFAN
Voyager wrote:It's really too bad that we won't get to see Jeremey with Journey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38_LQBbFfo8Jeremey has the look and the sound that could have brought back the Perry feel to the band... much more than Augeri, JSS, or Arnel could have. Jeremey has the Perry-ish passion and energy... that's a fact. I just don't understand the logic they are using. I could have supported this version of Journey.

Look? He's just an average looking guy to me. He looks a bit like one country singer whose name escapes me. He's in one of the Fruit Of The Loom commercials. Sound? He's too shrill and pushes so hard he almost grunts. Passion and energy? I don't feel it. Sorry.
@Laker

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:45 am
by StoneCold
LAKERSFAN wrote:Voyager wrote:It's really too bad that we won't get to see Jeremey with Journey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38_LQBbFfo8Jeremey has the look and the sound that could have brought back the Perry feel to the band... much more than Augeri, JSS, or Arnel could have. Jeremey has the Perry-ish passion and energy... that's a fact. I just don't understand the logic they are using. I could have supported this version of Journey.

Look? He's just an average looking guy to me. He looks a bit like one country singer whose name escapes me. He's in one of the Fruit Of The Loom commercials. Sound? He's too shrill and pushes so hard he almost grunts. Passion and energy? I don't feel it. Sorry.
Hey Laker, I'm curious. What did you think of Augeri and what's your take on Arnel?

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:15 am
by Lula
Saint John wrote:texafana wrote:OMG!!! On the JSS version, you can hear Steve A's pre-recorded backing vox....wow.
I suspect it was Deen. Deen had to help Jeff on a lot of the high parts.
From my understanding Jeff did not require help on songs in any way. Deen contributed on Dead or Alive, improvising if you will. Jeff could have and would have sang the entire set if required.

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:20 am
by Saint John
Lula wrote:Saint John wrote:texafana wrote:OMG!!! On the JSS version, you can hear Steve A's pre-recorded backing vox....wow.
I suspect it was Deen. Deen had to help Jeff on a lot of the high parts.
From my understanding Jeff did not require help on songs in any way. Deen contributed on Dead or Alive, improvising if you will. Jeff could have and would have sang the entire set if required.
I'm fairly sure, but not positive, that he needed help on the high parts. I actually
saw Deen come in on high parts at shows, but as Larry said, that could just be him complimenting Jeff.

Posted:
Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:20 am
by mistiejourney
Lula wrote:Saint John wrote:texafana wrote:OMG!!! On the JSS version, you can hear Steve A's pre-recorded backing vox....wow.
I suspect it was Deen. Deen had to help Jeff on a lot of the high parts.
From my understanding Jeff did not require help on songs in any way. Deen contributed on Dead or Alive, improvising if you will. Jeff could have and would have sang the entire set if required.
If I'm not mistaken, Jeff sang Dead or Alive at the concert I was at - I remember thinking, wow - they are doing some different songs!