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We were discussing Walmart and Journey's attempt at selling CD's there.

It works folks.

From CNN.com- http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/1 ... index.html

NASHVILLE, Tennessee (CNN) -- It may have been 28 years since the last Eagles studio album -- yes, "The Long Run" came out in 1979 -- but, in terms of sales, it's as if the famed band has never left.

The group's new CD, the double-disc set "Long Road Out of Eden," debuted at No. 1 on the Billboard album charts with more than 700,000 copies sold in its first week. This --despite its being available only at Wal-Mart.

That relationship with America's biggest merchant has also raised eyebrows. Wal-Mart's reputation does not seem to dovetail with the interests of the Eagles, particularly the band's Don Henley, an outspoken environmentalist.

In a rare interview, Henley addressed those concerns, along with the idea of patriotism, the changing music business, and why "Long Road" may be the group's last album.

CNN's Denise Quan spoke to Henley at the Country Music Association awards last week, and said that Henley was a "true Southern gentleman," ending the interview by sending the crew on its way with plates of mashed potatoes, corn and biscuits.

Interview with Don Henley continues...Go read it if you want.

Rockindeano wrote:We were discussing Walmart and Journey's attempt at selling CD's there.

It works folks.

From CNN.com- http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/1 ... index.html

NASHVILLE, Tennessee (CNN) -- It may have been 28 years since the last Eagles studio album -- yes, "The Long Run" came out in 1979 -- but, in terms of sales, it's as if the famed band has never left.

The group's new CD, the double-disc set "Long Road Out of Eden," debuted at No. 1 on the Billboard album charts with more than 700,000 copies sold in its first week. This --despite its being available only at Wal-Mart.

That relationship with America's biggest merchant has also raised eyebrows. Wal-Mart's reputation does not seem to dovetail with the interests of the Eagles, particularly the band's Don Henley, an outspoken environmentalist.

In a rare interview, Henley addressed those concerns, along with the idea of patriotism, the changing music business, and why "Long Road" may be the group's last album.

CNN's Denise Quan spoke to Henley at the Country Music Association awards last week, and said that Henley was a "true Southern gentleman," ending the interview by sending the crew on its way with plates of mashed potatoes, corn and biscuits.

Interview with Don Henley continues...Go read it if you want.

The Eagles' first studio album in decades is an amazing success story, and their partnership with WalMart was a stroke of genius. Journey and The Eagles = Apples & Oranges, though.

This is incredibly impressive. Moving 350,000 units (double CD) in a week as a "nostalgia" act is almost unheard of.

maybe the groups last album, no fuckin way...this band is all that's great about America, they've at least another one to give and as for distribution rights, HMV over here in the UK are seriously plugging the album, it's massive already, every Mall you walk into plays the album, that's the pull the Eagles have. Comparing them to Journey, they're like 10 billion light years ahead.....the Eagles are cool as fuck and don't need walmart as they have a fan base bigger than any other band....period. Walmart are smart business people and they know when they're onto a winner, Henley should have said fuck off...we're bigger than you.

Saint John wrote:This is incredibly impressive. Moving 350,000 units (double CD) in a week as a "nostalgia" act is almost unheard of.

• Eagles have the greatest selling record in the history of music
• A double album of new material with the original lineup after a 2 decade hiatus

If Journey was to record a new record with Steve Perry and distribute it exclusively via Wal Mart I'd expect numbers like this also...

Jeremey wrote:

Saint John wrote:This is incredibly impressive. Moving 350,000 units (double CD) in a week as a "nostalgia" act is almost unheard of.

• Eagles have the greatest selling record in the history of music
• A double album of new material with the original lineup after a 2 decade hiatus

If Journey was to record a new record with Steve Perry and distribute it exclusively via Wal Mart I'd expect numbers like this also...

Why Steve won't share with us the gift of his voice is unknown and sad. Makes me sad to think about it. We're rapidly running out of "next years" or maybe we already have.

Saint John wrote:
Why Steve won't share with us the gift of his voice is unknown and sad. Makes me sad to think about it. We're rapidly running out of "next years" or maybe we already have.

Well, Perry was right vis-a-vis Journey, "There's no turning back." I would hope that he shares with us one last CD of original material though. At 60 he could still have a hell of a career if he wanted it, but all indications are that he's happily retired and out of the public eye.

Jeremey wrote:

Saint John wrote:
Why Steve won't share with us the gift of his voice is unknown and sad. Makes me sad to think about it. We're rapidly running out of "next years" or maybe we already have.

Well, Perry was right vis-a-vis Journey, "There's no turning back." I would hope that he shares with us one last CD of original material though. At 60 he could still have a hell of a career if he wanted it, but all indications are that he's happily retired and out of the public eye.

I just wish he'd jump on stage for even one song to see what sort of feelings and/or emotions surfaced. One final 10-20 city stadium tour with Journey would be awesome. He really never said "goodbye" to us, the fans, and that really sucks.

Saint John wrote:

I just wish he'd jump on stage for even one song to see what sort of feelings and/or emotions surfaced. One final 10-20 city stadium tour with Journey would be awesome. He really never said "goodbye" to us, the fans, and that really sucks.

Oh, how I remember
Wounded but alive...
Lost in my insanity
Escaping to survive...

Rockindeano wrote:We were discussing Walmart and Journey's attempt at selling CD's there.

It works folks.

From CNN.com- http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/1 ... index.html

NASHVILLE, Tennessee (CNN) -- It may have been 28 years since the last Eagles studio album -- yes, "The Long Run" came out in 1979 -- but, in terms of sales, it's as if the famed band has never left.

The group's new CD, the double-disc set "Long Road Out of Eden," debuted at No. 1 on the Billboard album charts with more than 700,000 copies sold in its first week. This --despite its being available only at Wal-Mart.

That relationship with America's biggest merchant has also raised eyebrows. Wal-Mart's reputation does not seem to dovetail with the interests of the Eagles, particularly the band's Don Henley, an outspoken environmentalist.

In a rare interview, Henley addressed those concerns, along with the idea of patriotism, the changing music business, and why "Long Road" may be the group's last album.

CNN's Denise Quan spoke to Henley at the Country Music Association awards last week, and said that Henley was a "true Southern gentleman," ending the interview by sending the crew on its way with plates of mashed potatoes, corn and biscuits.

Interview with Don Henley continues...Go read it if you want.

HOW IRONIC... LIBERALS HATE WAL-MART... PUBLICLY!!!or so I thought!!! THIS CRACKS ME UP TO KNOW END!!!!

Rick

Saint John wrote: He really never said "goodbye" to us

Bingo.

it might be better to have ONE company pushing your product with actual displays rather than 20 different
companys not caring and keeping your cd hidden behind Joy Divison in the music bin...

Rockindeano wrote:Azoff, Walmart, and Jack..Tons of It .

whos jack ??

Jeremey wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:We were discussing Walmart and Journey's attempt at selling CD's there.

It works folks.

From CNN.com- http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/1 ... index.html

NASHVILLE, Tennessee (CNN) -- It may have been 28 years since the last Eagles studio album -- yes, "The Long Run" came out in 1979 -- but, in terms of sales, it's as if the famed band has never left.

The group's new CD, the double-disc set "Long Road Out of Eden," debuted at No. 1 on the Billboard album charts with more than 700,000 copies sold in its first week. This --despite its being available only at Wal-Mart.

That relationship with America's biggest merchant has also raised eyebrows. Wal-Mart's reputation does not seem to dovetail with the interests of the Eagles, particularly the band's Don Henley, an outspoken environmentalist.

In a rare interview, Henley addressed those concerns, along with the idea of patriotism, the changing music business, and why "Long Road" may be the group's last album.

CNN's Denise Quan spoke to Henley at the Country Music Association awards last week, and said that Henley was a "true Southern gentleman," ending the interview by sending the crew on its way with plates of mashed potatoes, corn and biscuits.

Interview with Don Henley continues...Go read it if you want.

The Eagles' first studio album in decades is an amazing success story, and their partnership with WalMart was a stroke of genius. Journey and The Eagles = Apples & Oranges, though.

I still maintain the Eagles could have sold as many units without Walmart, they're an institution. I guess Walmart controls America now, that's sad, pure sad.

Just read this interview too. I agree.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/1 ... pstoryview

There are a few other nice lines in there also...about how band mates get along with each other, truth from the internet, etc.


later~

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Azoff, Walmart, and Jack..Tons of It .

whos jack ??

Jack = cash, Benjamin's man!!!!

RaiderFan wrote:Jack = cash, Benjamin's man!!!!

Or, another interpretation could be that Azoff drove his Benz through the front end of a Walmart after drinking 2 fifths of Jack Daniels?

Jeremey wrote:

RaiderFan wrote:Jack = cash, Benjamin's man!!!!

Or, another interpretation could be that Azoff drove his Benz through the front end of a Walmart after drinking 2 fifths of Jack Daniels?

I like that one better, bro.

RaiderFan wrote:

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Azoff, Walmart, and Jack..Tons of It .

whos jack ??

Jack = cash, Benjamin's man!!!!

ahhhhhh,, jack = money... thanks dude,, i was WAY off.....

As much as I dislike the service at Best Buy and this whole scenario, I think they'd promote Journey better than the Wal.

But one way or another, this promotion idea is probably how it'll go down.

As for SP not saying goodbye, I think he's always wanted to leave the door open "just in case". And with all the statements of not rejoining Journey, its not like he doesn't realize peeps are clamoring to hear him.

So I wonder what Perry's $$$ cut in all of this is going to be...???

(...if this is happening at all.)


later~

StoneCold wrote:As much as I dislike the service at Best Buy and this whole scenario, I think they'd promote Journey better than the Wal.

But one way or another, this promotion idea is probably how it'll go down.

As for SP not saying goodbye, I think he's always wanted to leave the door open "just in case". And with all the statements of not rejoining Journey, its not like he doesn't realize peeps are clamoring to hear him.

Jeremey wrote:Well, Perry was right vis-a-vis Journey, "There's no turning back." I would hope that he shares with us one last CD of original material though. At 60 he could still have a hell of a career if he wanted it, but all indications are that he's happily retired and out of the public eye.

Also, I think it's the reality of THIS that's scaring him....and I don't blame him ONE IOTA...

Cribbed from AR's post here a few weeks back....thanx, guy...
http://idolator.com/tunes/ageism%3F/cle ... 316765.php

Clear Channel More Interested In Playing Old Music Than Music By Old People

Fox 411 columnist and Jann Wenner enemy Roger Friedman is alleging that the radio monopolists at Clear Channel have flat-out told the programmers at their rock stations that they can't play tracks from Bruce Springsteen's Magic, despite the album being No. 1 on the charts last week. Songs from the Boss' vault, like "Born To Run" and "Born In The USA," are OK, and that's causing Friedman to cry ageism:

Clear Channel seems to have sent a clear message to other radio outlets that at age 58, Springsteen simply is too old to be played on rock stations. This completely absurd notion is one of many ways Clear Channel has done more to destroy the music business than downloading over the last 10 years. It's certainly what's helped create satellite radio, where Springsteen is a staple and even has his own channel on Sirius.

It's not just Springsteen. There is no sign at major radio stations of new albums by John Fogerty or Annie Lennox, either. The same stations that should be playing Santana's new singles with Chad Kroeger or Tina Turner are avoiding them, too.

Like Springsteen, these "older" artists have been relegated to something called Triple A format stations -- i.e. either college radio or small artsy stations such as WFUV in the Bronx, N.Y., which are immune from the Clear Channel virus of pre-programming and where the number of plays per song is a fraction of what it is on commercial radio.

Personally I like the idea of being able to find music at one outlet.
I do not drive and have no online payment options.
Many times have I searched from store to store looking for a certain cd.
It's a big ole pain in the backside especially at Christmas time.

Jeremey wrote:

Saint John wrote:
Why Steve won't share with us the gift of his voice is unknown and sad. Makes me sad to think about it. We're rapidly running out of "next years" or maybe we already have.

Well, Perry was right vis-a-vis Journey, "There's no turning back." I would hope that he shares with us one last CD of original material though. At 60 he could still have a hell of a career if he wanted it, but all indications are that he's happily retired and out of the public eye.

Out of the public eye? I don't think so. Not as long as Journey continues their tirade. If he was out of the public eye, he wouldn't have to wear hoodies to pick up pizza. Nope, his celebrity isn't hurting any at all. I know we're a small number over here, but there are probably more threads on this forum involving Steve Perry than any other member of said band. Maybe if he'd do one more original album and say goodbye, he could get out of the public eye. But until then........or if Journey ever puts the band to rest......

Moon Beam wrote:Personally I like the idea of being able to find music at one outlet.
I do not drive and have no online payment options.
Many times have I searched from store to store looking for a certain cd.
It's a big ole pain in the backside especially at Christmas time.

moon unit.... just have it sent to you casa!!!

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng ... es&ic=24_0

Thanks Larry but that would involve a credit card right?
No can do that either.

lights1961 wrote:HOW IRONIC... LIBERALS HATE WAL-MART... PUBLICLY!!!or so I thought!!! THIS CRACKS ME UP TO KNOW END!!!!

Rick

Funny... I mentioned in another thread that I have a friend who worked on John Edwards' last campaign. I mentioned the funny Edwards hair video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AE847UXu3Q), and she said it was actually very tough on the campaign trail to find makeup people before appearances (I guess they didn't travel with one), and that they had to be Union, at that! And even if they did find one, there was the chance Edwards wouldn't like them... haha!

Anyway, I teased her and said that they probably were forbidden to shop at Wal Mart also, and as it turned out, that was the case! Campaign staff were not allowed to shop at Wal Mart, and they had to be very sensitive to using non-Union resources in general. It was pretty funny... She did mention that they could shop at Home Depot, though, but I don't know if they are Union or not.

By the way, in the States the new Loverboy disc was also a Wal Mart exclusive release. It only took me visiting 3 Wal Marts in 2 different towns before I found any.

RipRokken wrote:By the way, in the States the new Loverboy disc was also a Wal Mart exclusive release. It only took me visiting 3 Wal Marts in 2 different towns before I found any.

I found Eagles, Loverboy and Alter Bridge at my small town Wal-Mart Saturday. I was surprised they were all there.
I really, really hate to go to Wal-Mart, but that's how bad I wanted those CD's.

lights1961 wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:We were discussing Walmart and Journey's attempt at selling CD's there.

It works folks.

From CNN.com- http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/1 ... index.html

NASHVILLE, Tennessee (CNN) -- It may have been 28 years since the last Eagles studio album -- yes, "The Long Run" came out in 1979 -- but, in terms of sales, it's as if the famed band has never left.

The group's new CD, the double-disc set "Long Road Out of Eden," debuted at No. 1 on the Billboard album charts with more than 700,000 copies sold in its first week. This --despite its being available only at Wal-Mart.

That relationship with America's biggest merchant has also raised eyebrows. Wal-Mart's reputation does not seem to dovetail with the interests of the Eagles, particularly the band's Don Henley, an outspoken environmentalist.

In a rare interview, Henley addressed those concerns, along with the idea of patriotism, the changing music business, and why "Long Road" may be the group's last album.

CNN's Denise Quan spoke to Henley at the Country Music Association awards last week, and said that Henley was a "true Southern gentleman," ending the interview by sending the crew on its way with plates of mashed potatoes, corn and biscuits.

Interview with Don Henley continues...Go read it if you want.

HOW IRONIC... LIBERALS HATE WAL-MART... PUBLICLY!!!or so I thought!!! THIS CRACKS ME UP TO KNOW END!!!!

Rick

My thoughts exactly. As much as I love the Eagles, there are plenty of "down with America" songs here, yet they manage to come to an agreement with the scourge of the retail business and consummate capitalists . Might as well has some underage kids in a sweat shop in SouthEast Asia make concert t-shirts for them.

That's what's so ironic. A lot of these bands preach this goody two shoes stuff but they get behind companies like the Wal that are absolutely undermining American workers.