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That Soto colaboration with Fro was what I saw Journey moving towards before absolute stupidity set in.

Discuss.

AR wrote:That Soto colaboration with Fro was what I saw Journey moving towards before absolute stupidity set in.

Discuss.

Spot on. I thought the exact same thing, and it could have been great for both Journey and Jeff. I watch that video and feel like kicking Neal Schon in the butt.

How could they (Frig and Fro) be so shortsighted and stupid??? That is the question of the year.

I became a huge Soto fan after seeing him once with Journey, so I suppose those who didn't see Jeff as the Second Coming of Journey will have a different opinion.

Excellent song! A little rough, but that could be the post production.

Sounds like a great Journey song as well. VERY catchy, great bridge, Jeff sounds great on the vocals.

The song caught me the first time I heard it. Much like the first time I heard Any Way You Want It back in 1980 when I was first turned on to Journey.

I, too, was hoping for more of that from a studio album with Soto and the gang. I STILL can't believe they threw all of that potential and talent away.

And before the Arnel idiots start. Your boy will be singing the dirty dozen or maybe 10 of them opening for Styx. If you are a TRUE Journey fan you will realize that Jeff is a real singer and pushed them to do songs like "Opened the Door" & "Rubicon". Hell, Jeff did some of the Augeri stuff.

Parrot puppet will do as he is told.

And he did a VERY respectable version of Opened The Door to boot.

neal , at one time was on board as well,, excerpts from Andrews summer interview.. insane...

http://www.melodicrock.com/Journey-LA20 ... -2006.html
You've gotta be happy with the reaction.
Completely. What I've been blown away with so far is that nobody has seen him (JSS) with us before. It's the first time they've seen him with us and they're reacting like its friggin' Perry in the '80s or something, you know. I mean it's like pretty sick (laughing).


The energy's like, he's so contagious. I found that out about him when I worked with him in Soul Sirkus, the energy is completely contagious. That's flying all over the stage now. Everybody's got like new life. The whole band has got new life. It's a brand new band. The way management's looking at it now is this is a brand new band. It's insane.

We can do anything. We have no restrictions at all. I mean with Jeff and Deen singing you got two guys that can sing the whole that complete set by themselves. With both of them it's insane what we can do.

Honest to God. Out of everything we've done in the '80s. I'm excited about the future now. Where before I was getting a bit stifled. That's probably the reason I started the other band with this fella. I just felt like the brakes were kinda on, the governor was on the motor, the brakes were kind of on. We did well with Steve Augeri while he was up and running, but when the voice goes there's no more songs. Our songs are all built around vocals, and so we had to fix it. It was a really ballsy move, but I think it was the right one.

You were gettin' some heat?
I was like, you know what? Don't worry about it. I know this guy can pull it off. And so, the very first show he comes out, has a 10 minute sound check, no rehearsal at all. And friggin' gets a great review in the Washington Post the next day. They said that he sounded as good or better than Perry. (laughs)

Yeah, very cool. So um, next year? New record hopefully? Or Jon said earlier maybe wait, sort of work on it next year?
You know, um, we're playing Europe in March. We're gonna do those dates, and they may possibly add some more dates and then see what happens. Then after that I'm planning on, I'm building a new HD studio, state of the art studio. In my new house right now in Minneapolis I've got a big room. It's a great room, cement floor. For drums and guitars I love a cement floors. So we'll probably cut drums and guitar and bass there, or Ross can do it a Jon's house if he wants to do his bass there. Jon can do his keyboards at his house, Jeff can do his vocals at his house. We're gonna make a great sounding record. So I've been writing, I've got a lot of ideas already. So far everything that's been coming out of me right now is all melodic, it's real melodic. I haven't really been thinking about rock so much cause that's gonna come out easy.
You need to do that, I mean, Soul Sirkus was a rock, you know, little side step wasn't it?
Yeah, so I'm concentrating more on hooky choruses and you know, making it really melodic, giving him something to sing on.

Well, he'll sing anything you throw at him won't he, so...
Yeah, definitely, yeah.

That's very cool, and management are excited, they're on board now?
Irving Azoff was the happiest I've ever seen him last night. [Hollywood Bowl show]

knox wrote:And he did a VERY respectable version of Opened The Door to boot.

Yes he did Knox.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8YEKUJH9

I begged Jeff to sing that song in SB...Ed, you are right on!!!!

I have the answer...all those wives drove Neal out of his mind....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOAW6Q75FNw

Love it! But then again I'm biased, there isn't a single second of Lost In The Translation I don't like. And hate to say it, but that song can be done just as well with Howie on guitar.........I've seen it on a boot. This era of Journey has become completely irrelevant to me again.....back in the shadows. I'll listen and watch my classic Journey. As for shows, there is only 3 performers (Steve Perry, JSS, Eric Martin) I'd cross the border to see.

I'm hoping there is a lot of the Lost In The Translation sound in his new stuff.

AR wrote:

knox wrote:And he did a VERY respectable version of Opened The Door to boot.

Yes he did Knox.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8YEKUJH9

Thanks for the song

knox wrote:Excellent song! A little rough, but that could be the post production.

Sounds like a great Journey song as well. VERY catchy, great bridge, Jeff sounds great on the vocals.

The song caught me the first time I heard it. Much like the first time I heard Any Way You Want It back in 1980 when I was first turned on to Journey.

I, too, was hoping for more of that from a studio album with Soto and the gang. I STILL can't believe they threw all of that potential and talent away.

Me too Knox, if you like that one you'd probably like JSS's Lost In The Translation..............great cd, absolutely no filler.

I will try to check out Lost In Translation, then. Thank you for the suggestion.

That interview with Neal is hilarious, put it side by side with the interview he did with Andrew when Augeri was first hired and it is almost identical, as will the first interview with Neal about AP.

what a tool!

I remember being pissed when that song first came out. I really liked that song, it sounded a lot like Journey, and Journey were doing fuck all at the time. Everyone knows my position in regards to that incarnation of Journey. However, going forward with that line up, that song was definitely right direction. I liked it a lot.

Love this tune ! the video is cool too. did JSS write the music and lyrics as well??

Ray

........and wings of freedom was going in the right direction???????

yulog wrote:........and wings of freedom was going in the right direction???????

Well maybe not that direction maybe another......

Damn Yulog, you know better than to ask me an obvious question! Of course not, that one SUCKED!

yulog wrote:........and wings of freedom was going in the right direction???????

"Believe in Me" is one of my favorites and it definitely sounds just like a classic Journey track.

yulog wrote:........and wings of freedom was going in the right direction???????

From what I understand Jeff didn't write any of that. Neal and Jon wrote it when Jeff was out of the country finishing off his Talisman tour. Besides that was written for a Polo crowd, a certain event, you can't really go by that being the new direction. IMO the vocals were great on Wings, it had the soaring vocals of the early Journey stuff, but the lyrics and music left a little to be desired. I would love to hear a soundbyte of something that all 3 of them equally had input into.

Oh man! How I am still shaking my head over this move. Listening to this upload that Ed was gracious enough to upload for us just makes me that much more bitter toward Journey. I've done some boneheaded things in my day, but even I wouldn't have messed up a good thing like this. It's like someone turning down a billion dollars to accept 50 cents.

AR wrote:If you are a TRUE Journey fan you will realize that Jeff is a real singer and pushed them to do songs like "Opened the Door" & "Rubicon"....

Two songs which were played as recently as 2004 w/ Augeri.
More recently, it was Neal’s idea to brush conventional Azoff wisdom aside, and do the pre-Perry '05 retrospective.
Crowd permitting, Neal Schon is not afraid to dig into the rarer cuts, and even with Jeff or Jeremey fronting, did you really think the dirty dozen were going anywhere?

The_Noble_Cause wrote:

AR wrote:If you are a TRUE Journey fan you will realize that Jeff is a real singer and pushed them to do songs like "Opened the Door" & "Rubicon"....

Two songs which were played as recently as 2004 w/ Augeri.
More recently, it was Neal’s idea to brush conventional Azoff wisdom aside, and do the pre-Perry '05 retrospective.
Crowd permitting, Neal Schon is not afraid to dig into the rarer cuts, and even with Jeff or Jeremey fronting, did you really think the dirty dozen were going anywhere?

TNC, I can tell you that while you may be correct about the Augeri shows. Most recently they had to be pushed into doing anything past the dozen.

Ed

AR wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:

AR wrote:If you are a TRUE Journey fan you will realize that Jeff is a real singer and pushed them to do songs like "Opened the Door" & "Rubicon"....

Two songs which were played as recently as 2004 w/ Augeri.
More recently, it was Neal’s idea to brush conventional Azoff wisdom aside, and do the pre-Perry '05 retrospective.
Crowd permitting, Neal Schon is not afraid to dig into the rarer cuts, and even with Jeff or Jeremey fronting, did you really think the dirty dozen were going anywhere?

TNC, I can tell you that while you may be correct about the Augeri shows. Most recently they had to be pushed into doing anything past the dozen.

Ed

Hmm..well, you or Deano, or pretty much anyone would know better than me at this point.
What a fucking disgrace.
Next time Andrew gets the chance to interview the brillo-haired wop dwarf he has simply got to hold his prick to the flame.

(Since moo-goo-gai-pomeranian swipes are permitted toward Arnel, I'm figuring why not get into the MelodicRock white supremacist spirit? )

The_Noble_Cause wrote:

AR wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:

AR wrote:If you are a TRUE Journey fan you will realize that Jeff is a real singer and pushed them to do songs like "Opened the Door" & "Rubicon"....

Two songs which were played as recently as 2004 w/ Augeri.
More recently, it was Neal’s idea to brush conventional Azoff wisdom aside, and do the pre-Perry '05 retrospective.
Crowd permitting, Neal Schon is not afraid to dig into the rarer cuts, and even with Jeff or Jeremey fronting, did you really think the dirty dozen were going anywhere?

TNC, I can tell you that while you may be correct about the Augeri shows. Most recently they had to be pushed into doing anything past the dozen.

Ed

Hmm..well, you or Deano, or pretty much anyone would know better than me at this point.
What a fucking disgrace.
Next time Andrew gets the chance to interview the brillo-haired wop dwarf he has simply got to hold his prick to the flame.

(Since moo-goo-gai-pomeranian swipes are permitted toward Arnel, I'm figuring why not get into the MelodicRock white supremacist spirit? )

Not cool.

Back to the topic at hand, I definitely thought that this could have been a Journey song. And, yes, seeing the video makes me want to smack Neal upside the head. He rocks on the song, but.....