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Congratualtions Arnel

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:33 am
by Arnelian
boy, the gate here is a tough one to enter but with andrew's blessing, the Arnelian Army made it. Congratulations to Arnel Pineda, the new voice of Journey. Please drop by and say hi! sige!!!!



THANK YOU ANDREW!!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:34 am
by ScarabGator
yeah, Arnel should start posting!!!! He is a class act and deserves a bright future.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:37 am
by conversationpc
ScarabGator wrote:yeah, Arnel should start posting!!!! He is a class act and deserves a bright future.


My guess is that Neal and Co. are probably steering him clear of this place.

Re: Congratualtions Arnel

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:38 am
by Saint John
Arnelian wrote:boy, the gate here is a tough one to enter but with andrew's blessing, the Arnelian Army made it. Congratulations to Arnel Pineda, the new voice of Journey. Please drop by and say hi! sige!!!!



THANK YOU ANDREW!!!



Well I'm glad you're seemingly doing this the right way. Your post yesterday made it sound like you were coming here as a shit stirrer. The place is cool. Put your thick skin suit on and prepare to debate, discuss and do battle. It's a great sight. Welcome and enjoy. 8)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:40 am
by Journey69
That wasn't really him...was it..? Congrats bro.. I look forward to the new album bigtime!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:18 pm
by Arnelian
no stirrer---defender? yes, big time!!!

Re: Congratualtions Arnel

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:18 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
Arnelian wrote:boy, the gate here is a tough one to enter but with andrew's blessing, the Arnelian Army made it. Congratulations to Arnel Pineda, the new voice of Journey. Please drop by and say hi! sige!!!!



THANK YOU ANDREW!!!


how did you become a fan of AP?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:24 pm
by Arnelian
you know a winner when you see one. i know, the bashing is intolerable, but the real vindication is the moment ARNEL opens the first line of the first song. no reason to force that issue to anybody--we will wait for that time.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:28 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
Arnelian wrote:you know a winner when you see one. i know, the bashing is intolerable, but the real vindication is the moment ARNEL opens the first line of the first song. no reason to force that issue to anybody--we will wait for that time.


no really,, how did you become a fan? you see him live? you like his album,, what gives? btw .. the bashing has alot less to do with arnel as a talent and person .. as it has to do with the corporation journey , and how they treat employees..

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:30 pm
by Crazie Scarab
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Arnelian wrote:you know a winner when you see one. i know, the bashing is intolerable, but the real vindication is the moment ARNEL opens the first line of the first song. no reason to force that issue to anybody--we will wait for that time.


no really,, how did you become a fan? you see him live? you like his album,, what gives? btw .. the bashing has alot less to do with arnel as a talent and person .. as it has to do with the corporation journey , and how they treat employees..


What? Larry.. you sound as if you have a woody for Arnelian! Funny shit! :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:31 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
Crazie Scarab wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Arnelian wrote:you know a winner when you see one. i know, the bashing is intolerable, but the real vindication is the moment ARNEL opens the first line of the first song. no reason to force that issue to anybody--we will wait for that time.


no really,, how did you become a fan? you see him live? you like his album,, what gives? btw .. the bashing has alot less to do with arnel as a talent and person .. as it has to do with the corporation journey , and how they treat employees..


What? Larry.. you sound as if you have a woody for Arnelian! Funny shit! :lol:


i read that 2x and thought you said something about Woody Allen.. 8)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:36 pm
by Crazie Scarab
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Crazie Scarab wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Arnelian wrote:you know a winner when you see one. i know, the bashing is intolerable, but the real vindication is the moment ARNEL opens the first line of the first song. no reason to force that issue to anybody--we will wait for that time.


no really,, how did you become a fan? you see him live? you like his album,, what gives? btw .. the bashing has alot less to do with arnel as a talent and person .. as it has to do with the corporation journey , and how they treat employees..


What? Larry.. you sound as if you have a woody for Arnelian! Funny shit! :lol:


i read that 2x and thought you said something about Woody Allen.. 8)


Now, that's some woody I woodn't care to see.. :shock: That's for damn sure!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:38 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
Crazie Scarab wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Crazie Scarab wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Arnelian wrote:you know a winner when you see one. i know, the bashing is intolerable, but the real vindication is the moment ARNEL opens the first line of the first song. no reason to force that issue to anybody--we will wait for that time.


no really,, how did you become a fan? you see him live? you like his album,, what gives? btw .. the bashing has alot less to do with arnel as a talent and person .. as it has to do with the corporation journey , and how they treat employees..


What? Larry.. you sound as if you have a woody for Arnelian! Funny shit! :lol:


i read that 2x and thought you said something about Woody Allen.. 8)


Now, that's some woody I woodn't care to see.. :shock: That's for damn sure!


:lol: :lol: .. there is some Great humor here lately!!! :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:39 pm
by Andrew
conversationpc wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:yeah, Arnel should start posting!!!! He is a class act and deserves a bright future.


My guess is that Neal and Co. are probably steering him clear of this place.


Maybe...it could be worse!

Not too many places you can find online where at least 5 different factions of fans collide without bloodshed.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:44 pm
by fightingilliniJRNY
Andrew wrote:
conversationpc wrote:My guess is that Neal and Co. are probably steering him clear of this place.


Maybe...it could be worse!

Not too many places you can find online where at least 5 different factions of fans collide without bloodshed.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Plenty of bitching to the moderator, though. Right, Andrew? :wink:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:02 pm
by Arnelian
money or whatever, arnel will come out the real winner in this. i think you can agree. schon and company using him? big deal! it is a quamtum leap from where arnel had been. blow his voice out in two years? that one too! he can retire from this all in two years knowing he has done what many only can wish!--in his country, and i am sure the news will tricle in by tommorow, this feat has opened the pandora box not only to his home of origin but to the whole asian artists, that the U.S. market has opened the door for asians to penetrate. what schon and company has done to the asian artists (signers) is tremendous. that is the real essence of the Arnel phenomenon. call it business, money, skull duggery...he penetrated the inpenetrable and he is going to do it with his chin up!!!call him anything you want, but the last laugh is his NOW.

why go to a fanatical perspective when it brings about destructive effect to journey? let the band stir itself to the direction it wants to go. if it fails, so be it. but, what if it ascends to a better strata? the only people that is going to take advantage of this are the ones with the open mind. if you close the mind, you will be left behind.

note: i do believe schon will take care of this guy. they know his worth. if they don't , no bashing will come our side. that is how mature the arnelian fanbase presents to the NEW JOURNEY.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:19 pm
by Andrew
Arnelian wrote:money or whatever, arnel will come out the real winner in this. i think you can agree. schon and company using him? big deal! it is a quamtum leap from where arnel had been. blow his voice out in two years? that one too! he can retire from this all in two years knowing he has done what many only can wish!--in his country, and i am sure the news will tricle in by tommorow, this feat has opened the pandora box not only to his home of origin but to the whole asian artists, that the U.S. market has opened the door for asians to penetrate. what schon and company has done to the asian artists (signers) is tremendous. that is the real essence of the Arnel phenomenon. call it business, money, skull duggery...he penetrated the inpenetrable and he is going to do it with his chin up!!!call him anything you want, but the last laugh is his NOW.

someone posted "are there anymore in youtube?" the answer is yes. not as spectacular as arnel maybe but, the voice range in that country is abundant. the problem i see is "asian voice is inherently thin, but mind you very sweet and melodic. i can recommend looking at 'BAMBOO" in youtube and listen to the dialect versions of the songs. see for yourself what is going on there. another one woth invistigating is MYMP or M.Y.M.P,
maybe not commercially viable yet, but the arnelian ripple will quadruple its effect ot that country's musical consciousness.


why go to a fanatical perspective when it brings about destructive effect to journey? let the band stir itself to the direction it wants to go. if it fails, so be it. but, what if it ascends to a better strata? the only people that is going to take advantage of this are the ones with the open mind. if you close the mind, you will be left behind.

note: i do believe schon will take care of this guy. they know his worth. if they don't , no bashing will come our side. that is how mature the arnelian fanbase presents to the NEW JOURNEY.


I like this post.

And for the record - I don't want to hear any more YouTube bootlegs thru PC speakers...I want to hear how the boy sounds with this band and new material.

So who is going to leak me a track?? :shock: :twisted: :twisted:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:20 pm
by Rick
Andrew wrote:
Arnelian wrote:money or whatever, arnel will come out the real winner in this. i think you can agree. schon and company using him? big deal! it is a quamtum leap from where arnel had been. blow his voice out in two years? that one too! he can retire from this all in two years knowing he has done what many only can wish!--in his country, and i am sure the news will tricle in by tommorow, this feat has opened the pandora box not only to his home of origin but to the whole asian artists, that the U.S. market has opened the door for asians to penetrate. what schon and company has done to the asian artists (signers) is tremendous. that is the real essence of the Arnel phenomenon. call it business, money, skull duggery...he penetrated the inpenetrable and he is going to do it with his chin up!!!call him anything you want, but the last laugh is his NOW.

someone posted "are there anymore in youtube?" the answer is yes. not as spectacular as arnel maybe but, the voice range in that country is abundant. the problem i see is "asian voice is inherently thin, but mind you very sweet and melodic. i can recommend looking at 'BAMBOO" in youtube and listen to the dialect versions of the songs. see for yourself what is going on there. another one woth invistigating is MYMP or M.Y.M.P,
maybe not commercially viable yet, but the arnelian ripple will quadruple its effect ot that country's musical consciousness.


why go to a fanatical perspective when it brings about destructive effect to journey? let the band stir itself to the direction it wants to go. if it fails, so be it. but, what if it ascends to a better strata? the only people that is going to take advantage of this are the ones with the open mind. if you close the mind, you will be left behind.

note: i do believe schon will take care of this guy. they know his worth. if they don't , no bashing will come our side. that is how mature the arnelian fanbase presents to the NEW JOURNEY.


I like this post.

And for the record - I don't want to hear any more YouTube bootlegs thru PC speakers...I want to hear how the boy sounds with this band and new material.

So who is going to leak me a track?? :shock: :twisted: :twisted:
:lol:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:22 pm
by EightyRock
Arnelian said: note: i do believe schon will take care of this guy. they know his worth. if they don't , no bashing will come our side. that is how mature the arnelian fanbase presents to the NEW JOURNEY.

Yeah, that's what Schon is banking on....use em, abuse em and shut em up with a gag order after they have used em up. All the better if you can take it with a smile on your face. Did you see what Schon did to their last singer, his "dear friend" Jeff Scott Soto? That's what he does to friends (with great voices). Yet you think Schon will "take care of" some guy he just met on YouTube? Yeah, ok. There's some swamp land in Florida you might be interested in checking out, too. :lol:
.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:34 pm
by fightingilliniJRNY
Arnelian wrote:why go to a fanatical perspective when it brings about destructive effect to journey? let the band stir itself to the direction it wants to go. if it fails, so be it.


Amen to that. Let them do what they want, and enjoy what the product they put out if you choose to. If you don't want to or don't like it, so be it. Good post.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:49 am
by m
great post, esp:

Arnelian wrote: schon and company using him? big deal! it is a quamtum leap from where arnel had been. blow his voice out in two years? that one too! he can retire from this all in two years knowing he has done what many only can wish.


best of luck to Arnel. (i hope he doesn't need it too much :wink: ) my anger has never been with him, and the fact that he's getting such a big chance is the best part of this whole thing...


& you know, i forgot about the asian fan culture. (big hong kong film fan & the shear numbers and passion for their favorite celebs is staggering)

this could be a brilliant move, financially.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:59 am
by marco17
EightyRock wrote:Arnelian said: note: i do believe schon will take care of this guy. they know his worth. if they don't , no bashing will come our side. that is how mature the arnelian fanbase presents to the NEW JOURNEY.

Yeah, that's what Schon is banking on....use em, abuse em and shut em up with a gag order after they have used em up. All the better if you can take it with a smile on your face. Did you see what Schon did to their last singer, his "dear friend" Jeff Scott Soto? That's what he does to friends (with great voices). Yet you think Schon will "take care of" some guy he just met on YouTube? Yeah, ok. There's some swamp land in Florida you might be interested in checking out, too. :lol:
.


And, though he wasn't a board or diehard fan favorite, don't take Augeri out of that equasion. If the rumor is true that he's singing and singing well, look what a year or two would have done for him. He'd still be able to belt out the dirty dozen, maybe with some help from Deen just to save his voice some, but he too was disposed of without a second thought or time to really heal. Yeah, and to your point, Jeff got royally "F'd by them. It's not a matter of IF it's WHEN.. But, that said, I wish the guy well, he seems to have the voice for it.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:23 am
by BobbyinTN
I still think they should take the songs down at least half a step so that Arnel won't fall victim to the throat problems other singers have faced.

He's awesome, but singing those high songs night after night can ruin the greatest voices.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:54 am
by YankeeRose
Arnel has a great voice from the You Tube videos I have heard. I am looking forward to the new album with him! His voice sounds a lot more like Journey than Soto's did.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:23 am
by Voyager
EightyRock wrote:Yeah, that's what Schon is banking on....use em, abuse em and shut em up with a gag order after they have used em up.


I can only imagine what kind of contract Schon had Arnel sign. The poor boy probably signed his fucking life away. Neal and Jon were probably laughing as they told their lawyer what to write in the contract.

:(

CONGRATS ARNEL!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:28 pm
by kickassdude
CONGRATULATIONS ARNEL!!! I AM ONE WHO HAD THE PRIVELEDGE TO WATCH YOU PERFORMED BEFORE YOU GOT TO JOURNEY AND I CAN GUARANTEE EVERYONE THAT YOU'RE ONE OF THE BEST IN THE WORLD. WAIT FOR THIS GUY TO PERFORM ON A LARGER STAGE & ARENA BEFORE JUDGING HIM.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:58 am
by NCscarab
Congratulations....You are now the lead singer of a soulless shell of a formerly great band !!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:06 am
by Todd H
Congratulations. Look forward to seeing you and Journey perform at the local Shoney's during all you can eat buffet night.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:05 am
by tanga
Congrats to Arnel, you have a lot of work ahead of you. I must say that this must be a dream come true for you. Just warning you bro, "Watch your back", don't trust no one. If I were you, don't respond to the negative posts and comments about you. If you do, you're asking to hang yourself dry just like what Jeremey's doing right now. In other words, think of what you're saying before posting. Don't say anything and can't back it up. And don't be cocky either like JSS. You have'nt proven anything yet. You are under the radar and on this big microscope of people waiting for you to fuck up and can't wait to shredd you in pieces.

When I first heard that you were being considered as the possible lead singer for Journey, there is no way that Neal would even consider you. During Thanksgiving Day, you were the topic of my family's conversation. I had a fifty dollar beat with my in-laws that you are not the lead singer and you were just the scapegoat for Perry's return to the limelight and to resume his legacy. I was wrong.

Looking at the big picture, I think this could turn out to be a good move for Schon. I could see some money coming in from all venues not only here in States but worldwide.

One last advice Arnel, you need to hire a wardrobe expert. Don't just stand there in-front of the microphone and mimic the songs. You look like a dork having a hard time singing the songs, you're vein seems like they are bursting out. The audience are looking for some energy and stage presence. I feel like in a convalescent home watching you in YOU Tube. Act professional, remember, you are doing something that has never been done in history. :wink: And lastly, no TAPEGATE please. If you take this advice, you will be alright. I can't wait to see you guys in Temecula. Rock on!!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:48 pm
by Crazie Scarab
NCscarab wrote:Congratulations....You are now the lead singer of a soulless shell of a formerly great band !!


If notations are worth anything, this is the most noteworthy! Thank you. Journey blows!

In fact.. Journey only wishes to be this good.. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5CgfpismT1w They cannot touch that!