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Last post here. Just absolutely wondering why you two insist on posting lies about me? What did I do to you?

NL, where the hell did I EVER post anything about "giving Neal a tape?" Or saying that "Something was up in Virginia?" Look up the post, and put it here. Just search and share. Please. Before you go calling me a LIAR, which is libel on the internet or anything else, why not get your facts straight or STFU? You joined this forum shortly after this whole debacle started and most of your posts have been in threads involving me...Just what is your problem, exactly? You've gone on for pages about me, about my wife, and now have just started making shit up, while calling me a liar out of the other side of your mouth. Who are you? Why don't you just go away?

And Behshad, you have always posted what you think is "inside information" that is make believe in an effort to look close to Jeff for some reason. Again, all of what you are saying about me is libel. I am tired of dealing with your bullshit. Please refrain from discussing me in any future posts. Really.

Andrew, you can lock this thread if you like. But don't delete as for the record I want to tell everyone here:

NoLippin and Behshad are both full of shit. I don't know who they are, or why they have a hard on for me. But they have called me a liar for the better part of 9 months now. It's done. You have no need to discuss me or share your "opinions" of me on this board any longer. Period.

Jeremey wrote:Last post here. Just absolutely wondering why you two insist on posting lies about me? What did I do to you?

NL, where the hell did I EVER post anything about "giving Neal a tape?" Or saying that "Something was up in Virginia?" Look up the post, and put it here. Just search and share. Please. Before you go calling me a LIAR, which is libel on the internet or anything else, why not get your facts straight or STFU? You joined this forum shortly after this whole debacle started and most of your posts have been in threads involving me...Just what is your problem, exactly? You've gone on for pages about me, about my wife, and now have just started making shit up, while calling me a liar out of the other side of your mouth. Who are you? Why don't you just go away?

And Behshad, you have always posted what you think is "inside information" that is make believe in an effort to look close to Jeff for some reason. Again, all of what you are saying about me is libel. I am tired of dealing with your bullshit. Please refrain from discussing me in any future posts. Really.

Andrew, you can lock this thread if you like. But don't delete as for the record I want to tell everyone here:

NoLippin and Behshad are both full of shit. I don't know who they are, or why they have a hard on for me. But they have called me a liar for the better part of 9 months now. It's done. You have no need to discuss me or share your "opinions" of me on this board any longer. Period.

So much for your New Year's resolution.

StevePerryHair wrote:

Jeremey wrote:Last post here. Just absolutely wondering why you two insist on posting lies about me? What did I do to you?

NL, where the hell did I EVER post anything about "giving Neal a tape?" Or saying that "Something was up in Virginia?" Look up the post, and put it here. Just search and share. Please. Before you go calling me a LIAR, which is libel on the internet or anything else, why not get your facts straight or STFU? You joined this forum shortly after this whole debacle started and most of your posts have been in threads involving me...Just what is your problem, exactly? You've gone on for pages about me, about my wife, and now have just started making shit up, while calling me a liar out of the other side of your mouth. Who are you? Why don't you just go away?

And Behshad, you have always posted what you think is "inside information" that is make believe in an effort to look close to Jeff for some reason. Again, all of what you are saying about me is libel. I am tired of dealing with your bullshit. Please refrain from discussing me in any future posts. Really.

Andrew, you can lock this thread if you like. But don't delete as for the record I want to tell everyone here:

NoLippin and Behshad are both full of shit. I don't know who they are, or why they have a hard on for me. But they have called me a liar for the better part of 9 months now. It's done. You have no need to discuss me or share your "opinions" of me on this board any longer. Period.

So much for your New Year's resolution.

What's the point of your post?

Jeremey wrote:

StevePerryHair wrote:

Jeremey wrote:Last post here. Just absolutely wondering why you two insist on posting lies about me? What did I do to you?

NL, where the hell did I EVER post anything about "giving Neal a tape?" Or saying that "Something was up in Virginia?" Look up the post, and put it here. Just search and share. Please. Before you go calling me a LIAR, which is libel on the internet or anything else, why not get your facts straight or STFU? You joined this forum shortly after this whole debacle started and most of your posts have been in threads involving me...Just what is your problem, exactly? You've gone on for pages about me, about my wife, and now have just started making shit up, while calling me a liar out of the other side of your mouth. Who are you? Why don't you just go away?

And Behshad, you have always posted what you think is "inside information" that is make believe in an effort to look close to Jeff for some reason. Again, all of what you are saying about me is libel. I am tired of dealing with your bullshit. Please refrain from discussing me in any future posts. Really.

Andrew, you can lock this thread if you like. But don't delete as for the record I want to tell everyone here:

NoLippin and Behshad are both full of shit. I don't know who they are, or why they have a hard on for me. But they have called me a liar for the better part of 9 months now. It's done. You have no need to discuss me or share your "opinions" of me on this board any longer. Period.

So much for your New Year's resolution.

What's the point of your post?

What's the point of yours. You said all this yesterday, Andrew locked it, yet you go on.

StevePerryHair wrote:What's the point of yours. You said all this yesterday, Andrew locked it, yet you go on.

The guy has been called a liar. I would be doing the same and so would you.

Over and out.

conversationpc wrote:

StevePerryHair wrote:What's the point of yours. You said all this yesterday, Andrew locked it, yet you go on.

The guy has been called a liar. I would be doing the same and so would you.

Over and out.

He made that point yesterday was my point. Why rehash it and keep it going. The thread is still there for all to read his "side".

Jeremey,
I have no reason nor time to sit down and make stories about you. I havent even met you .I go by what my sources tell me and things that went on with the PM's back and forth on June 12th and June 13th between .

I also have no reason to make up lies and bring up inside information to show that I am close to Jeff as you suggest. I do take pride in being a deovted fan of Jeff, but how well I know him, is irrelevant to this nor any of your or anyone else's business.Jeff has nothing to do with this.

I also explained my side of the story in the other thread that YOU requested Andrew to lock.
Yet you create another thread and ask him to lock this too? I get this feeling that you just want to make sure you come with the last wod. That you say what you have, but God forbid should anyone say something that doesnt agree with you.

I really dont want to keep going on with this subject out of respect for Andrew. I know what I know and thats good enough for me, I just couldnt sit and do nothing about the BS, thats all.

Happy Holidays to you and your family.

StevePerryHair wrote:

Jeremey wrote:

StevePerryHair wrote:

Jeremey wrote:Last post here. Just absolutely wondering why you two insist on posting lies about me? What did I do to you?

NL, where the hell did I EVER post anything about "giving Neal a tape?" Or saying that "Something was up in Virginia?" Look up the post, and put it here. Just search and share. Please. Before you go calling me a LIAR, which is libel on the internet or anything else, why not get your facts straight or STFU? You joined this forum shortly after this whole debacle started and most of your posts have been in threads involving me...Just what is your problem, exactly? You've gone on for pages about me, about my wife, and now have just started making shit up, while calling me a liar out of the other side of your mouth. Who are you? Why don't you just go away?

And Behshad, you have always posted what you think is "inside information" that is make believe in an effort to look close to Jeff for some reason. Again, all of what you are saying about me is libel. I am tired of dealing with your bullshit. Please refrain from discussing me in any future posts. Really.

Andrew, you can lock this thread if you like. But don't delete as for the record I want to tell everyone here:

NoLippin and Behshad are both full of shit. I don't know who they are, or why they have a hard on for me. But they have called me a liar for the better part of 9 months now. It's done. You have no need to discuss me or share your "opinions" of me on this board any longer. Period.

So much for your New Year's resolution.

What's the point of your post?

What's the point of yours. You said all this yesterday, Andrew locked it, yet you go on.

The point of his post is that his character has been called into question and he has the right to speak on this. The only point of your post is to try to further call his character into question because you are a friend of Beshad's.

oh i don't like it when people get upset it makes me really sad

TVL wrote:The point of his post is that his character has been called into question and he has the right to speak on this. The only point of your post is to try to further call his character into question because you are a friend of Beshad's.

Agree with this, what is with the gang up mentality? If Jeff Scott Soto has something to say, let him say it!

Tyler wrote:

TVL wrote:The point of his post is that his character has been called into question and he has the right to speak on this. The only point of your post is to try to further call his character into question because you are a friend of Beshad's.

Agree with this, what is with the gang up mentality? If Jeff Scott Soto has something to say, let him say it!

Jeff posted just two forums down that the whole Journey experience is history and there is no use crying over spilt milk. I guess some people just like to keep crying.

Beshad....I do not understand why you are feeling the need to try to drag Jeremey through the mud and call his character into question. He and his wife are two of the sweetest people you'll ever meet. It is Jeremey's experience so it's his right to speak on it or not. So you have your "sources"...so what...you were not there..you were not a party to anything that occurred so anything you say is only heresay. Both Jeremey and Jeff have already spoken about this. Both men have a lot of integrity so we should leave it with what they said.

I have read both threads and being from the midwest, I have no inside knowledge of what really is going on with Journey and the rest of what happen. Then adding to the fact that I really don't know everyone on a personal bases. I could say that everyone is not telling truth. But I will not say that. But the way it is coming across--to me anyway---is a he said/he said thing. That really doesn't get anyone anyplace at all. Everyone knows their personal truth and no one else has to believe it except that person. Jeremey knows his personal truth and he should not care what I think about his personal truth. Even if I disagree with him in some way. If I should disagree he does not have to go on and on to try to get me to change my mind. You can't change anyone's mind unless they want it changed. It sounds like no one is going to change anyones mind here. So why can't we just except that fact and move forward and stop beating our head against a brick wall? No one is going to win.

As "The Stomach Turns" when we last left our hero....

No. I joined this forum shortly after the Tapegate debacle began. Don't flatter yourself.

I'll leave prowling through the 45 pages of self serving posts by you to one of your cheerleaders. While they are at it, maybe they can come up with that mysterious post you want people to believe Neal made.

All anyone needs to do is read that blithering idiot blog of yours to see the lies. You've told 3 different versions of your conversation with Jon Cain alone.

I'll STFU when you do. A week doesn't go by without you swooping in here to plug your two bit shows, or trying to make everyone think you have inside info. No one in the business would give you any inside info after what you've done. Your 15 minutes was over months ago. Seems funny to me that the people who start the threads about you are one hit wonders who never return...kinda like that "anonymous" thread. You call for Andrew to lock threads when you get your ass called out, then you conveniently start another one in the hopes it will go your way.

Your have your own blog and your band of enablers have their own forum where you can post all the gratuitous crap they can stomach, but when you come here be prepared for some to disagree. That's how public forums are. Some here are sick of you and your cheerleaders trying to make it look like this whole forum supports you when it clearly does not.

You can take your talk of "libel" and "slander" and shove it. You don't scare me one bit. If you haven't been sued yet with all the crap you've spewed, no one ever will be.

Jeremey wrote:Last post here. Just absolutely wondering why you two insist on posting lies about me? What did I do to you?

NL, where the hell did I EVER post anything about "giving Neal a tape?" Or saying that "Something was up in Virginia?" Look up the post, and put it here. Just search and share. Please. Before you go calling me a LIAR, which is libel on the internet or anything else, why not get your facts straight or STFU? You joined this forum shortly after this whole debacle started and most of your posts have been in threads involving me...Just what is your problem, exactly? You've gone on for pages about me, about my wife, and now have just started making shit up, while calling me a liar out of the other side of your mouth. Who are you? Why don't you just go away?

And Behshad, you have always posted what you think is "inside information" that is make believe in an effort to look close to Jeff for some reason. Again, all of what you are saying about me is libel. I am tired of dealing with your bullshit. Please refrain from discussing me in any future posts. Really.

Andrew, you can lock this thread if you like. But don't delete as for the record I want to tell everyone here:

NoLippin and Behshad are both full of shit. I don't know who they are, or why they have a hard on for me. But they have called me a liar for the better part of 9 months now. It's done. You have no need to discuss me or share your "opinions" of me on this board any longer. Period.

nolippin wrote:All anyone needs to do is read that blithering idiot blog of yours to see the lies. You've told 3 different versions of your conversation with Jon Cain alone.

You're an ass. I'm not saying Jeremey's story is inaccurate but let's see how accurate your recollection of a conversation from several months ago would be if you were to recount the story for us. Give me a break.

I'm not trying to "spin" my recollections to make gullible people believe I'm some hero.

conversationpc wrote:

nolippin wrote:All anyone needs to do is read that blithering idiot blog of yours to see the lies. You've told 3 different versions of your conversation with Jon Cain alone.

You're an ass. I'm not saying Jeremey's story is inaccurate but let's see how accurate your recollection of a conversation from several months ago would be if you were to recount the story for us. Give me a break.

nolippin wrote:I'm not trying to "spin" my recollections to make gullible people believe I'm some hero.

No one thinks Jeremey's a hero and he could probably not care less if anyone thinks he is.

Jeremey wrote:Last post here. Just absolutely wondering why you two insist on posting lies about me? What did I do to you?

NL, where the hell did I EVER post anything about "giving Neal a tape?" Or saying that "Something was up in Virginia?" Look up the post, and put it here. Just search and share. Please. Before you go calling me a LIAR, which is libel on the internet or anything else, why not get your facts straight or STFU? You joined this forum shortly after this whole debacle started and most of your posts have been in threads involving me...Just what is your problem, exactly? You've gone on for pages about me, about my wife, and now have just started making shit up, while calling me a liar out of the other side of your mouth. Who are you? Why don't you just go away?

And Behshad, you have always posted what you think is "inside information" that is make believe in an effort to look close to Jeff for some reason. Again, all of what you are saying about me is libel. I am tired of dealing with your bullshit. Please refrain from discussing me in any future posts. Really.

Andrew, you can lock this thread if you like. But don't delete as for the record I want to tell everyone here:

NoLippin and Behshad are both full of shit. I don't know who they are, or why they have a hard on for me. But they have called me a liar for the better part of 9 months now. It's done. You have no need to discuss me or share your "opinions" of me on this board any longer. Period.

Jeremey

You and I have had differences in the past and if I said anything to piss you off I'm sorry the man I've gotten to know over here is a good decent HONEST man, please do come here and defend yourself. you have every right too! Looking forward to finally seeing your band the 5th of Janurary!!!!!

Gail

I don't see your name in the subject line of this thread. What are you...his PR manager?

conversationpc wrote:

nolippin wrote:I'm not trying to "spin" my recollections to make gullible people believe I'm some hero.

No one thinks Jeremey's a hero and he could probably not care less if anyone thinks he is.

C'mon, guys... time to give Jeremey a break. Even if it was extremely short-lived, the guy has a teeny-tiny place in Journey history (he does have a song that he worked on with them, and he was "hired" by the band, if only for a day -- I could only dream of such a thing). Plus, he's an awesome vocalist. AND, on top of that, he's a fan, just like us.

Even if it were true that he smudged the truth on a few issues, they are extremely small points to fight about. We have plenty enough other things to talk about. Let's leave the guy alone.

It seems very strange to me that in a forum where people have ranted and raved against Journey, Neal and Jon for months for what they did to JSS are so willing to give Jeremey a free pass for his part in it. Gives a whole new meaning to fair weather friends.

Rip Rokken wrote:C'mon, guys... time to give Jeremey a break. Even if it was extremely short-lived, the guy has a teeny-tiny place in Journey history (he does have a song that he worked on with them, and he was "hired" by the band, if only for a day -- I could only dream of such a thing). Plus, he's an awesome vocalist. AND, on top of that, he's a fan, just like us.

Even if it were true that he smudged the truth on a few issues, they are extremely small points to fight about. We have plenty enough other things to talk about. Let's leave the guy alone.

conversationpc wrote:
The guy has been called a liar. I would be doing the same and so would you.

Over and out.

OK, so its ok for THE GUY to defend his charachter as you and your buddies suggest, but he has the rights to call me crazy and mental hospital patient in more than one occasion? Where is the justice in that Dave?


Rip Roken,,, everyone said their parts and Jeremey himself asked Andrew to lock the thread. Which Andrew did. So at that point he was left alone. But he brought it back up. So apparently he cant leave it alone.

nolippin wrote:I don't see your name in the subject line of this thread. What are you...his PR manager?

This is a public forum and a public thread. If you don't like me being here, then you don't have to read or respond to me.

Anyway, I've never met the guy and I've never been to a show by Frontiers. I've shared my opinion when I thought his vocals weren't necessarily the greatest on some Youtube videos that have been posted here. If that's your definition of "PR manager" then you're an idiot.

Behshad, get a life! and not mine, bc that would mean you'd still be in here too much...

and Jeremey, STOP FEEDING THESE IDIOTS! go have a life that behshad would die for

what's done is done. Harping on it only wastes valuable time.

Jeff's the ONLY one who seems to get that.

Merry whatever suits you....

Behshad wrote:OK, so its ok for THE GUY to defend his charachter as you and your buddies suggest, but he has the rights to call me crazy and mental hospital patient in more than one occasion? Where is the justice in that Dave?

How about providing proof of your claim that he's lying? Regardless, I never said you couldn't do anything. Do what you want but don't let your jock strap get too tight when other people don't agree with you.