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do you like the first 3 journey albums before perry joined?

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Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:05 pm
by mikemarrs
do you like the first 3 journey albums before perry joined?
some people love them some refuse to even listen to the pre perry stuff.
my favorite out of the three would be next.

Posted:
Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:05 pm
by Crazie Scarab
Absofrigginlooly! A lot of Journey's BEST material is b4 senor Perry.. Ahh, pardon me, Mr. Perry..

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:12 am
by Phen
I love the pre-Perry albums. I only have them on vinyl... I should get them on CD soon. "Of a Lifetime" is one of the greatest songs of their career.

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:13 am
by Invisible Cajun
Absolutely. In my opinion they are better. Look Into The Future is a classic. Guitars galore!

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:31 am
by knox
I haven't given them much thought... I have heard a few things off of Time3, but I don't listen to them.

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:35 am
by Journey69
I really like "People" ... Love the sound..
Re: do you like the first 3 journey albums before perry join

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:37 am
by scarygirl
mikemarrs wrote:do you like the first 3 journey albums before perry joined?
some people love them some refuse to even listen to the pre perry stuff.
my favorite out of the three would be next.
They've grown on me.
Re: do you like the first 3 journey albums before perry join

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Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:06 am
by lights1961
mikemarrs wrote:do you like the first 3 journey albums before perry joined?
some people love them some refuse to even listen to the pre perry stuff.
my favorite out of the three would be next.
you mean there was a journey before perry... say it aint so...
Rick

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:24 am
by (Crazy)Dulce Lady
gotta chime in here.
pre-perry Journey is Journey for me. (but, make no mistake, I am a bonafide, ceritfied loon, also. Journey is just different with Perry-not better not worse-just a different Journey. it's all good)
I love the 1st 3, but JOURNEY is my favorite.

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:59 am
by RisingForce73
For anyone who thinks those three albums suck, play "Of A Lifetime." That song won me over. Gregg's vocals are haunting, and the guitar solo is some of Schon's best work ever.

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:02 am
by Greg
The only pre Perry Stuff that I am familar with are the ones that made it on Time3. I need to give those albums a try though.

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:10 am
by m
Spaceman is one of my favorites, as is Nickel And Dime, & cookie duster
the comiskey park version of Next is awesome....
Lots of great stuff from the first three.

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:33 am
by AeroZach
The pre-Perry stuff is very cool. I like the heavily progressive / space rock mood they had going, and Schon ripped out some awesome riffs in that time!
I like what someone said, that it IS in fact "A different Journey, no better or worse". I agree with that 100%

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:52 am
by Just Sara
When I'm in the mood for it, heck yeah!!!!
I have two of them on cd and one on vinyl. The quality on the latter isn't that great but I'll take what I can get.
Of a Lifetime is by far my favorite. Any song that can get my punk rock brother into Journey is brilliant in my mind.


Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:16 am
by bluejeangirl76
lifer wrote:Superman is one of my favorites, as is Cookie Cutter & Nickel And Dime
If it's one of your favorites, then shouldn't you know that it's not called "Cookie Cutter"?
Sorry. Just here to help.


Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:18 am
by conversationpc
The debut is among the best progressive rock albums, in my opinion. "Look Into the Future" isn't as good overall and "Next" is more of a hard rock album than it is progressive.
Overall, I'd rate them as follows...
Journey = 8
Look Into the Future = 6.5
Next = 7

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:26 am
by ProgRocker53
Journey- 10
Look into the Future- 8
Next- 7.5
LOVE the self-titled debut, one of my favorite albums of all time.. Affirmed Journey as my favorite band after hearing it all the way through one evening.

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:35 am
by annie89509
We all know music is subjective. To me, the vocals are the most important to a song, the instrumentals supplement the music. That said, I have always liked Gregg Rolie's voice. So I like all the songs he sang on (Saturday Night, Of a Lifetime, Spaceman, She'll be Alright, etc.) There's just too much instrumental and not enough singing on those first 3.

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:44 am
by (Crazy)Dulce Lady
annie89509 wrote:We all know music is subjective. To me, the vocals are the most important to a song, the instrumentals supplement the music. That said, I have always liked Gregg Rolie's voice. So I like all the songs he sang on (Saturday Night, Of a Lifetime, Spaceman, She'll be Alright, etc.) There's just too much instrumental and not enough singing on those first 3.
hehe. I think just the opposite but then again I am a flute player. not much singing when I play.
that is quite possibly why I like those 3 better--i.e. more instrumental than vocal. make no mistake, I love Gregg's vocals when they happen.
I agree with the statement that NEXT is moving more towards hard rock. not better or worse--just different. all good. no--all GREAT!!! I really really like the 1st 3 albums.

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:16 am
by Escape Artist
Good stuff! I like it for different reasons then the Perry journey... but it is very cool.

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:20 am
by m
bluejeangirl76 wrote:lifer wrote:Spaceman is one of my favorites, as is Cookie Cutter & Nickel And Dime
If it's one of your favorites, then shouldn't you know that it's not called "Cookie Cutter"?
Sorry. Just here to help.

I do, just a goof. But thanks! “Cookie Cutter" just doesn’t have the same charm as
“Cookie Duster”


Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:38 pm
by belar
There's definitely some good stuff on those first three albums, "Of A Lifetime", "Next", "Karma", "Kohoutek" (still one of my favorite instrumentals of all time). Folks should give those albums a chance.

Posted:
Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:22 pm
by squirt1
I really never heard of them. Probably Ca did. But the world heard after Perry sang ! How many years before radio play & stadiums 4 ? They were not doing well and that is why Herbie beat them over their heads to get a frontman and the rest is history.

Posted:
Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:20 pm
by AlienC
conversationpc wrote:The debut is among the best progressive rock albums, in my opinion. "Look Into the Future" isn't as good overall and "Next" is more of a hard rock album than it is progressive.
Overall, I'd rate them as follows...
Journey = 8
Look Into the Future = 6.5
Next = 7
yep, pretty much got it right there.
Tickner is a Space Man.

Posted:
Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:58 pm
by Rantlers
Crazie Scarab wrote:Absofrigginlooly! A lot of Journey's BEST material is b4 senor Perry.. Ahh, pardon me, Mr. Perry..
You can't be serious.


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Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:11 pm
by Rick
Rantlers wrote:Crazie Scarab wrote:Absofrigginlooly! A lot of Journey's BEST material is b4 senor Perry.. Ahh, pardon me, Mr. Perry..
You can't be serious.

Give it a listen dude, they were fantastic. Nickel and Dime is a great song to start with, from the Next album, I think.

Posted:
Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:19 pm
by ProgRocker53
The albums weren't selling, because they weren't written for mass consumption and radio singles. What don't people get about that? The music was the most important thing during this period.
Pre-Perry Journey, is Journey in its purest most artistic form. And it is FANTASTIC.

Posted:
Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:25 pm
by Saint John
ProgRocker53 wrote:The albums weren't selling, because they weren't written for mass consumption and radio singles. What don't people get about that? The music was the most important thing during this period.
Pre-Perry Journey, is Journey in its purest most artistic form. And it is FANTASTIC.
Did you get even with the fuckers that JSS'ed you? PM me some phone numbers and I'll post them in The Annex. Those guys won't sleep for a month.


Posted:
Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:32 pm
by mikemarrs
i love next myself.i had these back in the late eighties and finally someone told me perry started with infinity and these guys had three releases of stuff before steve joined.my older brother heard this music and said man thats pretty good kinda sounds like rollie type vocals with spacy progressive music.i told him it was and that it was journey and they had stuff before steve joined.he said thats some killer music but nobody will believe its journey because they think of perry automatically.of a lifetime is killer too of the first one.i couldn't get into the look into the future album as much as the first journey and next but all of them have their moments.if i made a compilation of stuff by journey i'd start out with three or four songs from this era to get the music started right.by the time wheel in the sky hits stuff like of a lifetime,kohoutek,nickel and dime,spaceman and i would find you plus hustler would get it rolling.think i might make something like that now that i think about it.i think all three are hugely underrated efforts that get left behind because the perry era stuff sold millions and these didn't.

Posted:
Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:55 pm
by Gin and Tonic Sky
RisingForce73 wrote:For anyone who thinks those three albums suck, play "Of A Lifetime." That song won me over. Gregg's vocals are haunting, and the guitar solo is some of Schon's best work ever.
This is the perfect song to sit back put your feet up, crack a big beer open and relax to. Rest of the album is not to bad either.